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The Corinthian church had some 15 errors....and even the fornicator was told to be cut loose for the destruction of the flesh......and yet the SPIRIT would be saved.....many cannot comprehend that simple truth....the spirit has been born again from above by INCORRUPTIBLE SEED and does NOT SIN.....all sin originates from the FLESH <-->the LUST of the FLESH, the LUST of the EYES and the pride of LIFE...the battle ground in the MIND and the more one is transformed by the process in Romans 12:1-2 the LESS they sin (although never sinless)......the less they are transformed the MORE they sin YET STILL SAVED none the less........the process can be magnified and or stunted based upon....
a. The amount of the word one gets fed
b. The quality of the word one gets fed
c. The willingness of the one being fed to incorporate the word they are being fed
d. A complete lack of the word and or only MILK with no meat....
The Spirit, born again from above by INCORRUPTIBLE SEED and BY AN IRREVOCABLE GIFT must BE FED to grow and mature.....Salvation is secure in CHRIST, God whips SONS but does not cast them away....end of story!
That would be my guess too.
James 2:10 (CSBBible)
10 For whoever keeps the entire law, and yet stumbles at one point, is guilty of breaking it all.
OH MY!
Look how easy that would be to lose your salvation:
1 Peter 2:13-17 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, [.☜OH MY!] whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--
16 as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.
17 Honor all people. [.☜OH MY!] Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king [President Trump]. [.☜OH MY!]
AND THAT EASILY YOU LOST YOUR SALVATION.
THANK GOD THAT I BELIEVE IN ETERNAL SECURITY IN CHRIST, also called OSAS.
Amen Rosemaryx, and Jesus grew in grace and wisdom;
Luke 2:40 "And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with "wisdom, and the grace" of God was on Him."
Psalm 94: 17-19
17) Unless the LORD had been my helper,
I would soon have dwelt in the abode of silence.
18) If I say, “My foot is slipping,”
Your loving devotion, O LORD, will support me.
19) When anxiety overwhelms me,
Your consolation delights my soul.
An interesting concept is brought out by this verse you quoted....that being....GRACE must go above and beyond what we perceive and how we apply it to SINNERS.....JESUS was NO SINNER and yet the GRACE of GOD was ON HIM......dwell on that for a minute
Luke 2:40 "And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with "wisdom, and the grace" of God was on Him."
This hope is certainly not some wishy washy cross your fingers hope I win the lottery kind of hope. Unlike the english word "hope," the N.T. word contains no uncertainty; it speaks of something that is certain. - Strong's #1680 elpís (from elpō, "to anticipate, welcome") – properly, expectation of what is sure (certain); hope. If we have saving faith in Christ, then we have this hope. Faith is the substance of things HOPED for.. (Hebrews 11:1). So that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the HOPE of eternal life (Titus 3:7).
This hope is certainly not some wishy washy cross your fingers hope I win the lottery kind of hope. Unlike the english word "hope," the N.T. word contains no uncertainty; it speaks of something that is certain. - Strong's #1680 elpís (from elpō, "to anticipate, welcome") – properly, expectation of what is sure (certain); hope. If we have saving faith in Christ, then we have this hope. Faith is the substance of things HOPED for.. (Hebrews 11:1). So that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the HOPE of eternal life (Titus 3:7).
AMEN for sure......
What can I like some of the people on this board to?
Ron sees an ad in the newspaper
Professional fruit inspector 10 dollars a barrel for apples.
He calls
Fruit inspector- Hello
Ron- I'd like you to inspect my apples
Fruit inspector how many bushels do you have?
Ron- Ten
Fruit inspector- OK. If they have worms, they are rotten. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay by credit card?
You are a hypocrite, because you demand I apologize for fruit inspecting, then you inspect my fruit by accusing me of hypocrisy.
If it doesnt influence the salvation at all, hey, why not? You're only gonna lose some rewards
When its all said and done, the modern version of OSAS is predicted in the Bible and is unheard of in Church history, they could not even fathom such an idea.
A Christian named Irenaeus lived during the 2nd century A.D. (130-202). He wrote a book titled, “Against Heresies” in which he called attention to this particular fact. In this work (Book I Chapter 6) he said the following regarding Gnostic teaching:
But as to themselves, they hold that they shall be entirely and undoubtedly saved, not by means of conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature. For, just as it is impossible that material substance should partake of salvation (since, indeed, they maintain that it is incapable of receiving it), so again it is impossible that spiritual substance (by which they mean themselves) should ever come under the power of corruption, whatever the sort of actions in which they indulged. For even as gold, when submersed in filth, loses not on that account its beauty, but retains its own native qualities, the filth having no power to injure the gold, so they affirm that they cannot in any measure suffer hurt, or lose their spiritual substance, whatever the material actions in which they may be involved.
Wherefore also it comes to pass, that the “most perfect” among them addict themselves without fear to all those kinds of forbidden deeds of which the Scriptures assure us that “they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
And committing many other abominations and impieties, they run us down (who from the fear of God guard against sinning even in thought or word) as utterly contemptible and ignorant persons, while they highly exalt themselves, and claim to be perfect, and the elect seed. SOURCE
Compare this to what you hear from many of the pulpits today. Its like Peter predicted, Paul's writings wrested and twisted. Who would be the one bringing in false security and encouraging people to not repent by telling them they are okay if they believe in Jesus, positionally righteous while getting drunk regularly? Look at the fruits of easy believism that we have today, cant tell the difference between professing christians and the world.
Not in here for a debate, truth has already set me free. Once the Son sets you free you shall be free indeed. Just here to post my view, as many from the opposing side have also. -> I got no problem with any OSAS-believers, if they are in the faith, they are my brothers and sisters, no matter what theology they believe. <-
Yep, they demand I apologize for supposedly fruit inspecting, when they have been inspecting my fruit all along.
Allow me to demonstrate how absurd your argument is.
Ron sees an ad in the newspaper
Professional fruit inspector 10 dollars a barrel for apples.
He calls
Fruit inspector- Hello
Ron- I'd like you to inspect my apples
Fruit inspector how many bushels do you have?
Ron- Ten
Fruit inspector- OK. If they have worms, they are rotten. That will be 100 dollars. Do you want to pay by credit card?
Do you see the false accusations? And the fact that they are doing the same thing that they are accusing me of (fruit inspecting)?
Self control is a fruit of the Spirit. Stop inspecting my fruit.
Post number where he accused you of lying to the Holy Spirit and I will apologize.
i hope I get one this time. I can post a list of post numbers almost a page long where I asked for a post number to back up an accusation and didnt get one.