Not By Works

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YourTruthGod said:
Just speak about scriptures and stop with your personal opinions and nonsense.
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We are who we are. I think you have declared openly where you are.
We are just our opinions about scripture to the day we die. It is called being human.
And if you claim it is more than your perspective, though inspired by God, you have
passed beyond anyone in scripture, lol :cool:
 
FollowHisSteps said:
I am sorry, what are you saying? The sermon on the mount is not significant?
And you are saying Jesus was teaching classic Judaism.
I think what you are sharing is Jesus is just sharing the impossible high standard of Jewish faith so can be ignored.

What you ignore is why the disciples wrote this all down after the resurrection to teach believers how to walk.
And secondly, as you say, it is teaching out of the Psalms, which is also repeated by the apostles, so these teachings
are eternal in nature and we cannot ignore or dismiss them.

I see the phrase our first and foremost adherence is repeating obedience is only believing Jesus is the Christ.
This is so lame, because it is a denial of the gospels and Paul and everything.

The logic here is selective. One phrase in the gospels dismisses all the moral teaching about sin and walking
in His ways. Only a sinful people who hate repenting of their sin would suggest such a thing.

But I know your school of theology, free grace, so of course we will not agree. God bless you.
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Only when one lyes fallen in the dust in complete humility can they see clearly that the fallen state of mankind everywhere is not primarily in need of an example, but a savior.
 
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BillG said:
Vice Versa.
Yet do you see me being rude and insulting to you?
The only time I recall doing so I apologized to you.
Disagreement in theology is not being rude or insulting by the way.
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Not sure there is anything more to say.
But then this is the internet :cool:
 
50C1AL0N3 said:
Only when one lyes fallen in the dust in complete humility can they see clearly that the fallen state of mankind everywhere is not primarily in need of an example, but a savior.
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Jesus called us to be overcomers of the world, to walk in victory through His love and the Holy Spirit.
Starting in the place of humbleness, Amen, like Moses, but the Lord raises us up to follow His example.

If He had not given us an example, we would not need to follow it, but He called us to take responsibility
to claim the place He gave us and to walk in it. That is the gospel of power and authority.
Praise the Lord.
 
FollowHisSteps said:
Jesus called us to be overcomers of the world, to walk in victory through His love and the Holy Spirit.
Starting in the place of humbleness, Amen, like Moses, but the Lord raises us up to follow His example.

If He had not given us an example, we would not need to follow it, but He called us to take responsibility
to claim the place He gave us and to walk in it. That is the gospel of power and authority.
Praise the Lord.
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I want you to know that I do not disagree that obedience is unified with your faith. You can not have either without the other, but I completely disagree if you're proposing one is able to lose their salvation due to a lack or misunderstanding of deeds or actions deemed righteous and judged by man to be that of God.
The physical manifestation of your faith is works right? What if I were a paraplegic and physically unable to conjure the manifestation of the appearance of good works?
For the crowd asked Jesus "what shall we do to do the works of God?" He replied "Believe on the one he has sent."
 
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YTG...
Just my opinion here , but all through your post , you have no Joy...
I see a lot of anger , more anger in your heart showing then anything else...
I will pray for you right now , God loves a humble and contrite heart , the Scriptures have some beautiful passages to read about being humble , also about anger , anger rages up higher and higher till it spills out from ones heart , and words become bitter , but I am pretty sure you know these things...xox...
 
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50C1AL0N3 said:
I want you to know that I do not disagree that obedience is unified with your faith. You can not have either without the other, but I completely disagree if you're proposing one is able to lose their salvation due to a lack or misunderstanding of deeds or actions deemed righteous and judged by man to be that of God.
The physical manifestation of your faith is works right? What if I were a paraplegic and physically unable to conjure the manifestation of the appearance of good works?
For the crowd asked Jesus "what shall we do to do the works of God?" He replied "Believe on the one he has sent."
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Why bother talking to him since he says it is wrong to keep taking about it?
 
Rosemaryx said:
YTG...
Just my opinion here , but all through your post , you have no Joy...
I see a lot of anger , more anger in your heart showing then anything else...
I will pray for you right now , God loves a humble and contrite heart , the Scriptures have some beautiful passages to read about being humble , also about anger , anger rages up higher and higher till it spills out from ones heart , and words become bitter , but I am pretty sure you know these things...xox...
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You don't see because your eyes are bad.
 
YourTruthGod said:
Don't you know that you speak against what I say here?
The Word of God says that people blasphemy things they do not understand.
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Well, well. Look who's turning himself into a demigod.

You're sounding more and more like a cult leader every day.

YTG: (paraphrase) "Do not question me! Don't you know I have "special revelation" from God? To question me means you are questioning God Himself!"

Dude, you need serious help.
 
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Did Jesus surrender his life for us because we are so good? Or because we deserve or can disserve it? Or because he loves us before we were born? Yes I said loves, not loved. He has never stopped.
 
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