Not By Works
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Being saved is salvation. Obedience is love. God doesn't love anyone until they love Him first.
I have given you scriptures many times.
I'd like to see just one that says what you said there.
Look.....I have seen what you write and until you start being honest, open to the truth, quit putting the ox before the cart in your mixed up theology and be open to learning and insteuction, nothing you say to me has value.....Make no mistake....what you habe been peddling here is false, it is not correct and it devalues Christ, his work, his blood, his promises, his power, his faith, his salvation, his truth and what the bible teaches.....You have conflated numerous issues into a quagmire of fallacy......and this view that you have a special revelation from God that few know....is BS........the word is of no PRIVATE INTERPRETATION and make no mistake......You are not selling the truth........so....unless whay you have to say is....I am wrong in my interpretation and I need help understanding my error....I am not interested.....!!!
Again FALSE....man you are so deceived....Explain how the following verse contradicts your view in bolded!!
IS NOT THAT WE LOVED HIM, BUT THAT HE LOVED US AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR US.
Does the above sound anything like what you peddled above in bolded...NO...THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SAID....humble yourself anf admit error man....your fallacies will take you to the pit!!
You will not find it and what he said is the exact opposite of true
It is not that we loved him, but that he loved us and gave himself for us....
The exact opposite of the drivel he posted about we have to love God for him to love us!!!!!
Dude....give it up....the above view is just ignorant.......I mean....like scrapes the bottom of the barrel of ignorance
Amen....and he also peddles we have to love God for God to love us....the exact opposite of what the bible teaches!!
Like a Pharisee on Steroids.....He loves God enough to get God to love him back.....false alert on that one....totally contrary to the bible.....
We are told not to keep sinning.
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1 John 5:18 We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “the Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”
Acts 26:17, 18 …I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’
I couldn't care any less what Mr. Strong says, unless he wants to debate here.
We have to change our mind about wanting to sin.
The Word of God says to CONFESS your sins with your mouth to God and to stop sinning.
John 5:14 Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, “See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you.”
1 Corinthians 15:34 Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.
2 Peter 2:14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood![/QUOTE]
Even Jesus said, "None good but God".......yet they, in their mind, actually believe they can make the cut by what they do.............which actually makes them more wicked than Hitler because they devalue the work of Christ, call God a liar by their words and belief and trample underfoot the precious blood of the lamb...........
Amen to that one.....Ole Petey still peddling the same ole story psycho analytical babbel.....and self Pharisee-ical righteousness...
Winner winner chicken dinner........His view as skewed as it comes.....
How does a person know if they have been here before and banned? I know if I was ever life time banned I would not try to come back.
Based upon reading what you have written I believe your testimony would go something like this.....
I woke up one day and realized I can love God enough to get God to love me back and upon receiving a special revelation tailored just for me I knew I could make myself a child so God would give me the free gift of eternal life. Thank you for making me special and that I am not like these other sinners....I just make mistakes once in a while and I am very super duper obedient and serve God by doing many wonderful works..Jesus HAS TO ACCEPT ME because of ALL I do
Note...you have said everything I referenced above
Dont make me look it up again! Im getting real tired of doing that.
It was the one where you mentioned about how you at one point didnt sleep or eat much because you studied the Scriptures, etc. Remember that post? Thats what i was referring to!
Just a thought.....true obedience out of love is based upon God loving us and giving himself for us.........I believe that is what he is referencing.....NOTE THE PLAY Jesus makes on the word love when addressing Peter....he uses two forms of the word.....that might help explain it a bit