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benhur said:
It seems that if a man does not believe in Jesus, (rejecting Jesus is worse because you have been given knowledge and understanding about him and you unilaterally reject him as your Savior) Jesus's sacrifice will not save that unbeliever in the KOH. IOW the first law of salvation is to believe that Jesus can save you. Am I right?

Do you believe that Jesus died for unbelievers?

Also, I believe that a good Christian would not use words like 'smarty pants' when referring to another Christian on the forum.
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ralph is constantly lying
twisting words
making strawmen

i dont mind if someone disagrees with me

i have had plenty of formal good natured talks with even muslims or atheists
(who disagree with every word i say)
but ralph is one of the most dishonest people ive seen on this site

i dunno if hes a brother or not

but i pray God works mightily in him soon
 
benhur said:
It seems that if a man does not believe in Jesus, (rejecting Jesus is worse because you have been given knowledge and understanding about him and you unilaterally reject him as your Savior) Jesus's sacrifice will not save that unbeliever in the KOH. IOW the first law of salvation is to believe that Jesus can save you. Am I right?

Do you believe that Jesus died for unbelievers?


Also, I believe that a good Christian would not use words like 'smarty pants' when referring to another Christian on the forum.
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Jesus died for the whole world, atheists, agnostics, theologists, everyone has a chance to have a relationship with the Savior as long as they are walking and breathing
 
MHz said:
What's up Bro?
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Bless you Bro.

Truly touched by you asking, even though you don't know me.
Once you get to know me then you will get to know my weird sense of humour.

Looking forward to getting to know you.
 
benhur said:
It seems that if a man does not believe in Jesus, (rejecting Jesus is worse because you have been given knowledge and understanding about him and you unilaterally reject him as your Savior) Jesus's sacrifice will not save that unbeliever in the KOH. IOW the first law of salvation is to believe that Jesus can save you. Am I right?

Do you believe that Jesus died for unbelievers?
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If he did not no one could get saved, be4cause we were all unbelievers at a point.

Also, I believe that a good Christian would not use words like 'smarty pants' when referring to another Christian on the forum.
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No everyone here is christian, we have some impostors here
 
benhur said:
It seems that if a man does not believe in Jesus, (rejecting Jesus is worse because you have been given knowledge and understanding about him and you unilaterally reject him as your Savior) Jesus's sacrifice will not save that unbeliever in the KOH. IOW the first law of salvation is to believe that Jesus can save you. Am I right?

Do you believe that Jesus died for unbelievers?

Also, I believe that a good Christian would not use words like 'smarty pants' when referring to another Christian on the forum.
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now now "smarty pants" is used as a name in between the lions, a kid show lol.
 
NoNameMcgee said:
the broad road...

well

id say thats the worldly walk with no faith at all
or faith in the world like evolution
or random other theories
false gods <- like muslim (based in works)
or sects of catholics who believe their works save them
or "sinless perfectionists"
jews who reject Jesus
people who think saying a sinners prayer saves them (works)

shoot

sooo many involve worldly desires
and working their way in


id say the narrow path

is Jesus Christ

....

Him alone
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There's always one with semantics.

Broad/wide.

That one is normally me. But now it's two.

You and me.

It's gonna be a fun walk together in heaven
 
benhur said:
It seems that if a man does not believe in Jesus, (rejecting Jesus is worse because you have been given knowledge and understanding about him and you unilaterally reject him as your Savior) Jesus's sacrifice will not save that unbeliever in the KOH. IOW the first law of salvation is to believe that Jesus can save you. Am I right?

Do you believe that Jesus died for unbelievers?

Also, I believe that a good Christian would not use words like 'smarty pants' when referring to another Christian on the forum.
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And I'm a Christian I'm just "Peculiar",I use a bit of sarcasm and words referring to others as did Jesus,and you can take that to the bank.
 
BillG said:
There's always one with semantics.

Broad/wide.

That one is normally me. But now it's two.

You and me.

It's gonna be a fun walk together in heaven
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who wants to walk when we can run?
:p

as lazy as it sounds
i wanna go home

but im pretty sure i have a job to do
(._.')

soo i gotta just buckle down and get to work while i eagerly look at the clock waiting to hear the bell
 
joefizz said:
And I'm a Christian I'm just "Peculiar",I use a bit of sarcasm and words referring to others as did Jesus,and you can take that to the bank.
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Also I use words referring to myself too such as smart idiot, and smart aleck,you'll figure me out in time perhaps lol.
Or not Muhahaha!
 
BillG said:
There's always one with semantics.

Broad/wide.

That one is normally me. But now it's two.

You and me.

It's gonna be a fun walk together in heaven
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Broad is the path and narrow is the gate, A few Gentiles find it and that allows them to enter the Kingdom of Heaven when the 1,000 year reign. The 12 Tribes part in helping fulfill the bruise to the heel means they are all gathered dispute the unbelief of some after the cross. Hebrews:12 is the chastisement and forgiveness of all the rest so not one child of Adam and Eve is forgotten.

The shorter and cleared message is in these few verses.

Lu:12:6:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
Lu:12:7:
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
 
MHz said:
Broad is the path and narrow is the gate, A few Gentiles find it and that allows them to enter the Kingdom of Heaven when the 1,000 year reign. The 12 Tribes part in helping fulfill the bruise to the heel means they are all gathered dispute the unbelief of some after the cross. Hebrews:12 is the chastisement and forgiveness of all the rest so not one child of Adam and Eve is forgotten.

The shorter and cleared message is in these few verses.

Lu:12:6:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
Lu:12:7:
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
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I is a simple man, talk to me like one.

I get Luke but with your first paragraph I have no idea what your saying.

"A few gentiles find it?
 
All of mankind is either gathered at the start of the 1,000 year reign and that group is static in number as they are not given in marriage so no children are born to them in that period of not in the New Earth verses because they reside inside the walls of New Jerusalem in the new earth. As big as the city is they would overfill it eventually so they remain at a constant population. They are the first to be allowed through the gate that requires an interview with each individual before they enter the 1,000 year reign.
Everybody not alive at that time is resurrected to life at the GWT event so they are the last of mankind to be given immortality and a sinless heart. The angels will be in their new heaven so immortal men are free to explore the universe as that is the new earth. As God of the living and being a perfectionist I do not see any other options for what the various passages mean in real terms. If not for some prophecy Jesus could convert everyone as easily as he gathered Saul.

Don't be shy about hammering me with questions as I make some posts shorter than they should be.
 
BillG said:
I don't drink prune juice.
It gives me the two bob bits.

Try some then you know what I'm on about.

DC was being nice, as for me tee hee
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I never had prune juice, but get the gist......hahahahhah just don't be out on a nature hike after having a glass HAHAHA
 
MHz said:
All of mankind is either gathered at the start of the 1,000 year reign and that group is static in number as they are not given in marriage so no children are born to them in that period of not in the New Earth verses because they reside inside the walls of New Jerusalem in the new earth. As big as the city is they would overfill it eventually so they remain at a constant population. They are the first to be allowed through the gate that requires an interview with each individual before they enter the 1,000 year reign.
Everybody not alive at that time is resurrected to life at the GWT event so they are the last of mankind to be given immortality and a sinless heart. The angels will be in their new heaven so immortal men are free to explore the universe as that is the new earth. As God of the living and being a perfectionist I do not see any other options for what the various passages mean in real terms. If not for some prophecy Jesus could convert everyone as easily as he gathered Saul.

Don't be shy about hammering me with questions as I make some posts shorter than they should be.
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Sorry mate but now I'm more confused as ever.

What on earth is the interview? Why does it only apply to the first?

To be honest I have not researched thoroughly end time eschatology, rapture, pre-post, millennial, pre-post.

I just focus on the here and now.

There is nothing I can add to that.
 
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