LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I am glad I wear my boots when reading 98% of what you write...........
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That's highly doubtful. Let's see, somewhere you're going to imply I'm lost while surrounding that with a bunch of chimerical and incoherent nonsense.
And there it is, like clockwork!
The hilarious thing is you're describing yourself in that you have taught Christ has not done enough:
"The cross (of Christ) is not enough."
"You put too much on Christ and not enough on yourself."
"The imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that doesn't work."
"Having security in Christ is an idol."
All the above are your false teachings. Anyone defending you is an accomplice of your false gospel.
Hang it up, you've been found out long ago - you are in fact a false teacher and preach a false gospel, and fall under the category of the apostle Paul as "deceiving, and being deceived."
I'll probably say it some more so people remain aware of our resident false teacher.
He contradicts himself and the bible on a regular basis......tragically I might add......
Is not YOUR personal doctrinal position CONTRADICTING what these verses actually say.
Romans 7:18-24 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
Romans 3:20 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:23-28 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
[SUP]24 [/SUP] being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
[SUP]25 [/SUP] whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;
[SUP]26 [/SUP] for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Galatians 2:16-21 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] know that no one is justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ. And we have believed in Christ Jesus so that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no human being will be justified.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] But if we ourselves are also found to be “sinners” while seeking to be justified by Christ, is Christ then a promoter of sin? Absolutely not!
[SUP]18 [/SUP] If I rebuild the system I tore down, I show myself to be a lawbreaker.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] For through the law I have died to the law, so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ
[SUP]20 [/SUP] and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing.
Hebrews 9:11-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] But the Messiah has appeared, high priest of the good things that have come. In the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands (that is, not of this creation),
[SUP]12 [/SUP] He entered the most holy place once for all, not by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood, having obtained eternal redemption. {PAST TENSE}
Romans 5:8-10 (CSBBible) [SUP]8 [/SUP] But God proves his own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] How much more then, since we have now been declared righteous by his blood, will we be saved through him from wrath.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, then how much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life.
Are you not trying to ROB the GLORY that SOLELY BELONGS TO CHRIST ALONE?
Yes that is obvious! Even Paul warned us they would come. And there will be more coming in the near future.
Galatians 1:8-9 (ESV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Matthew 24:24-25 (ESV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] See, I have told you beforehand.
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Originally Posted by PeterJens
This is the truth of your position. You put too much on Christ and too little on yourself.
"h e r e s y alert. stop saying this"
Post award of the year goes to:
"Muzungu256"
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For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart.[Matthew 12:34b]
PJ has spoken from what fills his heart.
Christ's righteousness being imputed to us is a farce.
He likens it to 'Jesus spray'.
The cross is not enough to save us.
We put too much focus upon Him and not ourselves.
This is Joel and Victoria Osteenism...
That's highly doubtful. Let's see, somewhere you're going to imply I'm lost while surrounding that with a bunch of chimerical and incoherent nonsense.
And there it is, like clockwork!
The hilarious thing is you're describing yourself in that you have taught Christ has not done enough:
"The cross (of Christ) is not enough."
"You put too much on Christ and not enough on yourself."
"The imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that doesn't work."
"Having security in Christ is an idol."
All the above are your false teachings. Anyone defending you is an accomplice of your false gospel.
Hang it up, you've been found out long ago - you are in fact a false teacher and preach a false gospel, and fall under the category of the apostle Paul as "deceiving, and being deceived."
He incessantly says ppl are lost through thinly veiled attacks and gets away with it on here.
NO, we are SAVED the very first moment we Guinuinely Believe to the point of Complete surrender, thus as an act of LOVE we willingly give HIM control of our lives as LORD and MASTER. My moment of SAVING FAITH, came after a third attempt at Suicide in a single week the end of 1977. I believe it was at that moment the HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ME a specific prayer that I never heard anyone use before. I prayed, as this tremendous guilt over my whole lifestyle washed over me, wave after wave, as weeped uncontrollably, "Lord Forgive Me, FORGIVE ME! If you have a purpose for my life, then you come into it, and you run it, because I can't do it. I am making a total mess of it!"
I knew I was totally surrendering to Jesus Christ, never to take back the control again. Did he take me up on that offer? OH YEAH! Through a whole series of minor Minor Miracles, this Nebraska farm boy, ended up in Northern California as a Volunteer Protestant Chaplain, in two different supermax prisons. Nine years at the first one and six years at the second one, and I did not have a single hour of Bible College. The Lord did it all, He keep opening doors that other people said would not happen, and I just kept Totally Trusting HIM, and walking through those doors. IT WAS NOT ME DOING THAT MINISTRY, IT WAS JESUS CHRIST IN ME DOING IT. We serve and obey, BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM; and He empowers us to do what we cannot do on our own.
1 Corinthians 16:21-24 (NCV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] I, Paul, am writing this greeting with my own hand.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] If anyone does not love the Lord,
let him be separated from God—lost forever! {accursed}
Come, O Lord!
[SUP]23 [/SUP] The grace of the Lord Jesus be with you.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] My love be with all of you in Christ Jesus.
Would you like a cookie instead?Uh oh...is this a trick? So then DC can call us caketakers...?
OH MY, Dark Chocolate with Purple Icing, my favorite color and my favorite cake, and I am a diabetic, so I will pretend it SUGAR FREE!
Uh oh...is this a trick? So then DC can call us caketakers...?
NAWWWW...only people who say...
The cross is not enough
The imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that does not work or compares it to Jesus spray
Belief into the security of Christ is an idol
We put to much emphasis on Christ and not enough on ourself