Not By Works

[stonesoffire]

modern application? You are not of Heavenly Father and the Messiah and feel threatened by the Truth. You are an unpleasant man that have not the Love of GOD in Him. You believe not.

This soldier like display may fool some here but those who are His are not deceived by you.

May you Repent and Believe.

modern day Pharisee if ever I saw one.

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

 

[stonesoffire]

According to the High Priest there is work to be done.. so ignore the title of this thread and adhere to your Master.

The gift is Everlasting life rewarded based on your works.

Blessed are they that do His Commandments indeed because they are given the right to the Tree of life.


Revelation 22


2And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.




Nothing written goes against this.. it is merely the understanding of those without good foundation that can not recieve the above....

Brothers and Sisters... believe the Messiah... let these not hinder you with falsehood..

Heresy..

Eternal life is based on the work of Jesus. Blood sacrifice...and sprinkling of blood as we live.

Nothing you say from here will be uncorrupted.

 

[Zi]

I didn't ask what led to his suicide... I asked a specific question based on the thought in the quote. Only the person of the thought can answer..

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We can't really know whether it was remorse, or torment from the enemy that drove Judas to hang himself.

 

[JIMBO43]

You worry to much as my nonna would say.

Read and be comforted what it states here....

11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men. 12It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age,…
Titus 2:11

yup and if every man it brings salvation to must stay connected to the vine they will recieve a new body the day of the completed salvation... theese scriptures that this is refering to is being saved the first stage of salvation... now you must bare fruits until the day you die... which calling people trolls for no good reason is not baring fruits or is it..?

 

[stonesoffire]

Cee
What you just said is soooo old and soooooo stale!

Does loveme1 sound like an unsaved person to you? Trying to gain salvation by works?

She sounds like a saved person desiring to follow her LORD.
Why is she being given slack for this???

What's wrong with doing what Jesus commanded?

It seems to me that those who preach to NOT be a good and faithful SERVANT are the ones who are twisting the NT to make it mean what they would like it to mean instead of repeating what JESUS taught.

I've printed about 15 NT verses about how we're to WORK and it's totally ignored.
Why?

Maybe because some here don't want to do anything for God but "believe".
They don't even do that because Believe is an action word.

We do not have an actionless Dead Faith, but a faith that is alive with both LOVE and ACTIONS.

I've been following this thread for some time now and fail to see the position of those who attack me personally and call those such as myself names...reminds me of kindergarten.

It is a mystery indeed how a CHRISTIAN could demean another Christian who is trying to be a good disciple
Instead of Encouraging them.

Foundation is corrupted. A crucified life has the ego pierced by the Cross. Then Yeshua is lifted up, not self.

Dont be hoodwinked by this.

 

[FranC]

So true, he would not of dared... He taught endlessly the New Testament being Of GOD and True against those preferring the old wine and wanting to remain married to the dead husband rather than believe the Messiah.

AMEN!

This exactly what Galatians is about.
But some would want it to mean that we are not to depend on works.
This is wrong of course. Galatians is talking about returning to THE LAW.
All of THE LAW. By Jews who had accepted Christ and were thinking of returning to Judaism.

Paul NEVER said the Moral Law is abolished, as Jesus so firmly said in Mathew 5:17.

Seems to me some need to read Galatians again, in English would be fine.

 

[stonesoffire]

I didn't ask what led to his suicide... I asked a specific question based on the thought in the quote. Only the person of the thought can answer..

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free forum. Anyone can answer.

 

[JIMBO43]

thanks for the kind words,despite standing firm for God,I consider other people's outlooks too,whether they be right or wrong,or complete fabrications,or simply too quickly concluded,I keep to being unjudgemental as possible,because I've been through "Alot" in the past and can often keep in mind that everyone has been "taught" different or in my case,force fed religious beliefs,so I try not to offend others(though sometimes when speaking biblically some things are possibly offensive to others,no matter in what way you speak of the bible)
I now am a firm believer of God of my own individual choice and am now beyond just being a mere believer,I'm living God's word,allowing God to use me as he sees fit,knowing full well that the path I have chosen with God has no turning back from,I am God's entirely,I may have a will of my own but now I put his will above my own,and am fearful of him only,I have had my fill of this world,now my time left is for God,the only possible thing that I may have in time is a wife and child,if these are not in my path with God then I accept that I face judgement day being not married and with no loss of virginity,and that I am content with of a certainty.

i suppose you being unjudgemental also allows you to be judgemental at times too

 

[loveme1]

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

That could be applied even to yourself my dear.. but your loyalty for dc I'm sure will be applauded.. nothing new under the sun.

 

[stonesoffire]

AMEN!

This exactly what Galatians is about.
But some would want it to mean that we are not to depend on works.
This is wrong of course. Galatians is talking about returning to THE LAW.
All of THE LAW. By Jews who had accepted Christ and were thinking of returning to Judaism.

Paul NEVER said the Moral Law is abolished, as Jesus so firmly said in Mathew 5:17.

Seems to me some need to read Galatians again, in English would be fine.

Fallen from grace is to trust in works other than the Cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Foundation is only His work.

1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

according to the grace of God


1Co 3:11 For other foundationcan no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


Until one has the foundation right, the building is corrupt. Straw. Hay...nothing of eternal value.

 

[stonesoffire]

That could be applied even to yourself my dear.. but your loyalty for dc I'm sure will be applauded.. nothing new under the sun.

i did not answer you with judgement but the Word of God.

And you are using scripture out of context.

 

[Zi]

Are you serious? Rebellious..

I just said I asked based on the thought of another, if you are not him how can you possibly answer?

You twist for a second time in a row.. again let me correct you.. I'm not saying that no nobody is allowed but only that it's not possible unless you are in the head of he that I quoted..

free forum. Anyone can answer.

 

[stonesoffire]

Are you serious? Rebellious..

I just said I asked based on the thought of another, if you are not him how can you possibly answer?

You twist for a second time in a row.. again let me correct you.. I'm not saying that no nobody is allowed but only that it's not possible unless you are in the head of him whom he that I quoted..

yes, am serious. No one knows if he had remorse, or repentance, or was tormented to death. Anyone should be able to answer this. And rebellion is not to your words, but His.

 

[loveme1]

Heresy..

Eternal life is based on the work of Jesus. Blood sacrifice...and sprinkling of blood as we live.

Nothing you say from here will be uncorrupted.

Stones... His reward is with Him to give to us according to works. Lvm1 is not making this up..

What came to pass on the cross and Resurrection means He can reward you with Everlasting life by Grace through Faith.

 

[loveme1]

i did not answer you with judgement but the Word of God.

And you are using scripture out of context.

You pick and choose and accuse yet want to tell me off to strengthen your bond with dc.. it is fine but be consistent.

 

[FranC]

So true, he would not of dared... He taught endlessly the New Testament being Of GOD and True against those preferring the old wine and wanting to remain married to the dead husband rather than believe the Messiah.

Exactly!

Could you imagine Jesus preaching for over three years everything He wanted us to know, and then inspire the New Testament Writers to write things totally different!

This is not possible.
We should learn to reconcile what Jesus taught and what Paul taught.
And, as I said, if there is a question, we ALWAYS go back to what Jesus preached.

 

[Zi]

Had he answered what I wanted it would have led to me seeing his thought to get to a point.. again impossible for you..

You don't have the answer.. you're being annoying grow up

yes, am serious. No one knows if he had remorse, or repentance, or was tormented to death. Anyone should be able to answer this. And rebellion is not to your words, but His.

 

[stonesoffire]

Php 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Php 3:18 (For many walk, ofwhom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are theenemies of the cross ofChrist:

This is serious what you two, Fran, and loveme are espousing.

 

[stonesoffire]

Had he answered what I wanted it would have led to me seeing his thought to get to a point.. again impossible for you..

You don't have the answer.. you're being annoying grow up

and you are rude.

 

[loveme1]

Fallen from grace is to trust in works other than the Cross and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Foundation is only His work.

1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

according to the grace of God


1Co 3:11 For other foundationcan no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


Until one has the foundation right, the building is corrupt. Straw. Hay...nothing of eternal value.

You speak truth in your last line.. and that is what we are sharing the Good foundation.. if you believed you would do well.