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The Only Thing that will be Great Again About America will be Her Fall because She has Forsaken Me!



6-3-19

Jeff Byerly

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/06/...will-be-her-fall-because-she-has-forsaken-me/



My son, I want you to write to My people once again because there are so few who know My voice when I speak and even fewer who understand what I am saying. My judgments are in the Earth even now but most would dismiss them as naturally occurring events, or climate change due to man or even man that is controlling the changes you are experiencing.

This is untrue I AM in control, I AM using My destroyer of nations just as I have intended and this will intensify until the of the age. Even now you are experiencing more floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanoes than you have experienced in your “modern history” but there are far more to come.

I have been merciful and even in My judgement I am merciful but as sin becomes greater so do My judgments. I send these things upon the Earth so that man humbles themselves, repents and cries out to Me but most only further harden their heart, stiffen their neck and even shake their fists towards Me in rebellious rage.

This vicious cycle that could be stopped if repentance was truly found in the hearts of men but it is in very few hearts and he number is getting fewer as time goes on. As My judgments grow greater in order to shake fallen man out of his complacency. I will allow everything to be touched by the enemy, even those who are Mine that have not fully surrendered every aspect of their lives to Me.

Yes, this will even touch you America! You are not above reproach! You will be the hardest hit! You have fallen into the greatest sin of all and you love it. You once knew Me but you have fallen away that which is holy and good and you despise My correction. I have warned you over and over by My prophets and watchmen especially over the last 10 years but you are not listening to Me.

You have been deafened by the chaotic noise from the god of this world, who most love even if they don’t know it. I have tried to warn you with My still small voice but that time is ending. My merciful judgments will shake America and the world to the very core in My last pleas for repentance from wickedness and sin.

I warn you again America, disaster and calamity comes quickly for you. After the Abraham Lincoln goes down in flames and you are embroiled in conflict, so will the tower that bears the name of Donald Trump and thus he will meet his demise during the fiery kickoff event.

As I have told you before Donald Trump is as Belshazzar, he shall be slain and America will be given to the Medes and the Persians. (This is modern day Iran and parts of the surrounding countries.)

After this fiery kick off event the most severe judgment on America begins. Most will not understand that this has all been planned for years and now the stage has been set and all the players are in place. War on America will come on every front and internally.

Muslim Jihad and civil war will come simultaneously along with financial ruin, martial law, famine, disease as well as earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes and then nuclear and even destruction from “aliens”,which are the fallen ones, and their weapons that most do not even take into account.

Then My wrath shall be poured out upon you, oh Babylon the great! A great fireball that you don’t see coming because it is from Me. This will end the seal judgments and My sealed servants will be transformed and be sent out to harvest all those who would receive Me as Savior.

During all of this Obama will be welcomed back to lead America and most will put their trust in him and he will promise peace and protection but bring chaos and destruction. How foolish they will be found to be! How utterly foolish it is to trust in man instead of Me! He will absolutely do what his father Satan does best, steal, kill and destroy: all the time smiling and lying. He will finally be allowed to accomplish his objective.

As he departs America will be attacked from the north, while she is in total disarray and unable to defend herself. This is the final destruction in one hour by fire of Babylon the great.

The only thing that will be great again about America will be her fall because she has forsaken Me!

Even in this I seek the repentance of each individual soul. National repentance will not take place, judgment has been set.

You know not the abundance of tears I have shed for you but you have refused Me. ( I felt his pain a deep sorrow).

Children, there is still a very small amount of time left to surrender all to Me before this comes to pass. “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:36).

My chosen remnant- bride will escape the destruction to be used by Me in the last harvest but even these have and will go through tribulation and testing to make them perfect, even as I the captain of their salvation was perfected through sufferings. (Heb 2:10) My unselfish love in their hearts will be used to save many from the flames of the lake of fire.

Come to Me in intimacy today and ask Me to use you in this soon coming hour of trial for the whole earth. (Rev3:10)

I will answer your prayers if they are truly from your heart with no selfish motive. I AM the one who judges every motive, thought and intent of the heart. (Heb 4:12)

Be cleansed by My blood and be transformed by renewing your mind by My Spirit. This is your spiritual act of worship! This is My good acceptable and perfect will for you! (Rom 12:1-2) For I am a Spirit, and those who worship Me must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:23)

The time comes quickly and no man can stop the judgment for it is My will. Draw close to Me and Give All to Me Now!

I Want You All to Suffer as Little as Possible. Listen to and be Doer of My Words!

I Love You All without measure!

Yashua HaMashiach
Jesus Christ
 

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The Only Thing that will be Great Again About America will be Her Fall because She has Forsaken Me!



Afrikan, what country has not forsaken God? Leaving their first love was the error of the Ephesian church. Not everyone has forsaken God. There are believers mixed in with unbelievers in every country on every continent.

When God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, He told Abraham that He would not destroy it even if He found 10 righteous people. He ended up delaying the destruction for the sake of four people. Therefore, God is not going to do anything to the US or any other nation until He removes His people from off of the earth.

This is why the gathering of the church is coming, i.e. to take the righteous off the earth prior to His wrath which will come upon the whole world, to every nation. Praise God that out of that time of wrath there will be those great tribulation saints who will acknowledge Jesus and will die keeping their testimony of Him and that in the mist of God's wrath.

God is going to deal with every nation during that time and not just America.[/QUOTE]
 
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I'm in Vegas and its freaking cold here too right now. I'm so mad at Al Gore. There's no global warming. The planet has actually cooled 0.2 degrees since 1976.

Anyway, the signs of Mat 24:4-14 were all literal. They were all signs leading up to "the end [of Israel]." The subject was the destruction of the temple, nothing else was in focus. "When would this happen?" was the question. Everything Jesus lists preceded the events of 70 AD.

1. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.
2. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars.
3. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
4. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. Thus the above happens before the below.

5. Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
6. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
7. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
8. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.
9. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations
and then the end [of the age] will come. All 9 of these signs happened in the exact order Christ gave them prior to the fall of the temple.
Number three and four simply things going on since the beginning of time

My point is there is no direct sign to when, what is the sign (not signs as generality) and sign the end of the world. There is no sign a person could seek after as a direct warning . All of things listed 5-9 are beginning of sorrows. The gospel is preached And then on the last day the end comes like a thief in the night

The answer was the sign of times. Just as it was in the day of Noah . No direct sign as to a date . He could of said.... things will continue as they had been and then comes the end. We walk by faith no dating or numbering people.

The fall of the temple was the rendering of the vail the ressurection came the way is opened. . It signaled the end of the abomination of desolation the Pagan foundation Kings in Israel . I would say nothing to do with 70 Ad. the principle the abomination was destroyed when Christ said it is finished . There is still stone wall (wailing) that people use as a idol image in a hope another temple will be built. It would serve no purpose other that another abomination of desolation.
 
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The Only Thing that will be Great Again About America will be Her Fall because She has Forsaken Me!



6-3-19

Jeff Byerly

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/06/...will-be-her-fall-because-she-has-forsaken-me/



My son, I want you to write to My people once again because there are so few who know My voice when I speak and even fewer who understand what I am saying. My judgments are in the Earth even now but most would dismiss them as naturally occurring events, or climate change due to man or even man that is controlling the changes you are experiencing.

This is untrue I AM in control, I AM using My destroyer of nations just as I have intended and this will intensify until the of the age. Even now you are experiencing more floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanoes than you have experienced in your “modern history” but there are far more to come.

I have been merciful and even in My judgement I am merciful but as sin becomes greater so do My judgments. I send these things upon the Earth so that man humbles themselves, repents and cries out to Me but most only further harden their heart, stiffen their neck and even shake their fists towards Me in rebellious rage.

This vicious cycle that could be stopped if repentance was truly found in the hearts of men but it is in very few hearts and he number is getting fewer as time goes on. As My judgments grow greater in order to shake fallen man out of his complacency. I will allow everything to be touched by the enemy, even those who are Mine that have not fully surrendered every aspect of their lives to Me.

Yes, this will even touch you America! You are not above reproach! You will be the hardest hit! You have fallen into the greatest sin of all and you love it. You once knew Me but you have fallen away that which is holy and good and you despise My correction. I have warned you over and over by My prophets and watchmen especially over the last 10 years but you are not listening to Me.

You have been deafened by the chaotic noise from the god of this world, who most love even if they don’t know it. I have tried to warn you with My still small voice but that time is ending. My merciful judgments will shake America and the world to the very core in My last pleas for repentance from wickedness and sin.

I warn you again America, disaster and calamity comes quickly for you. After the Abraham Lincoln goes down in flames and you are embroiled in conflict, so will the tower that bears the name of Donald Trump and thus he will meet his demise during the fiery kickoff event.

As I have told you before Donald Trump is as Belshazzar, he shall be slain and America will be given to the Medes and the Persians. (This is modern day Iran and parts of the surrounding countries.)

After this fiery kick off event the most severe judgment on America begins. Most will not understand that this has all been planned for years and now the stage has been set and all the players are in place. War on America will come on every front and internally.

Muslim Jihad and civil war will come simultaneously along with financial ruin, martial law, famine, disease as well as earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes and then nuclear and even destruction from “aliens”,which are the fallen ones, and their weapons that most do not even take into account.

Then My wrath shall be poured out upon you, oh Babylon the great! A great fireball that you don’t see coming because it is from Me. This will end the seal judgments and My sealed servants will be transformed and be sent out to harvest all those who would receive Me as Savior.

During all of this Obama will be welcomed back to lead America and most will put their trust in him and he will promise peace and protection but bring chaos and destruction. How foolish they will be found to be! How utterly foolish it is to trust in man instead of Me! He will absolutely do what his father Satan does best, steal, kill and destroy: all the time smiling and lying. He will finally be allowed to accomplish his objective.

As he departs America will be attacked from the north, while she is in total disarray and unable to defend herself. This is the final destruction in one hour by fire of Babylon the great.

The only thing that will be great again about America will be her fall because she has forsaken Me!

Even in this I seek the repentance of each individual soul. National repentance will not take place, judgment has been set.

You know not the abundance of tears I have shed for you but you have refused Me. ( I felt his pain a deep sorrow).

Children, there is still a very small amount of time left to surrender all to Me before this comes to pass. “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:36).

My chosen remnant- bride will escape the destruction to be used by Me in the last harvest but even these have and will go through tribulation and testing to make them perfect, even as I the captain of their salvation was perfected through sufferings. (Heb 2:10) My unselfish love in their hearts will be used to save many from the flames of the lake of fire.

Come to Me in intimacy today and ask Me to use you in this soon coming hour of trial for the whole earth. (Rev3:10)

I will answer your prayers if they are truly from your heart with no selfish motive. I AM the one who judges every motive, thought and intent of the heart. (Heb 4:12)

Be cleansed by My blood and be transformed by renewing your mind by My Spirit. This is your spiritual act of worship! This is My good acceptable and perfect will for you! (Rom 12:1-2) For I am a Spirit, and those who worship Me must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:23)

The time comes quickly and no man can stop the judgment for it is My will. Draw close to Me and Give All to Me Now!

I Want You All to Suffer as Little as Possible. Listen to and be Doer of My Words!

I Love You All without measure!

Yashua HaMashiach
Jesus Christ
Doers of his word do not use personal pronouns as their own private interpretation signature .We are not your Son, You are not I Am Its not your blood , not your intimacy, not your bride.

It is taking the authority of his name in vain violating the first commandment giving the illusion God is speaking.

Deuteronomy 5:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Jesus doesn't name which disciples would die where, does He? Paul wasn't even known to them at the time. The first to die, was Jesus - in Jerusalem. Next was Stephen - in Jerusalem. Let's not forgot all the early Christians Paul was killing, WHERE? In Jerusalem. Lastly James, Jesus half-brother was killed - in Jerusalem.

In the passage you quote, Jesus was discussing the OT prophets, not his followers. He speaking of the past, "from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar." We know they killed many more too, like Isaiah, Amos, Michah, Habakkuk, and Jeremiah all killed by the Jews. Not only does He name some of the them (Zechariah), He also identified them (the Priests) as the responsible party. Then He says, "Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.' THIS GENERATION, not some future one to us. It is clear as DAY!!

Forgot about all the horns and the Caesars when you have the facts right out in the open. There is no need to speculate.
Matthew 23 is directed at Jerusalem, 1st century AD jerusalem.

Mystery Babylon is directed at something different that happens later.
 
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Afrikan, what country has not forsaken God? Leaving their first love was the error of the Ephesian church. Not everyone has forsaken God. There are believers mixed in with unbelievers in every country on every continent.

When God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, He told Abraham that He would not destroy it even if He found 10 righteous people. He ended up delaying the destruction for the sake of four people. Therefore, God is not going to do anything to the US or any other nation until He removes His people from off of the earth.

This is why the gathering of the church is coming, i.e. to take the righteous off the earth prior to His wrath which will come upon the whole world, to every nation. Praise God that out of that time of wrath there will be those great tribulation saints who will acknowledge Jesus and will die keeping their testimony of Him and that in the mist of God's wrath.

God is going to deal with every nation during that time and not just America.
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Hi Ahwatukee, i know we keep going back and forth on this issue, but, all i wanted to offer is my understanding of which nation i consider Babylon the Great to be.


The reason i keep inferring that maybe you lack objectivity on the issue is because you seem to want to ignore the finer points of the prophecy, maybe to satisfy a need to have ROME be the bad-guy in this particular portion of the prophecy.

We are in agreement that the Roman Catholics and actually the entire Catholic Faith are in great error about what they choose to believe and who they glorify (Mary, mother of Jesus) in their worship. This is demonic idolatry and they have have been used by the enemy to send Billions to Hell even this day and will be judged for it but, like i said, Babylon has peculiar characteristics that are listed in Rev. 17 and further detailed in Rev. 18.


Historical Babylon was a kingdom of wickedness where 'anything goes' was the motto of the day - they were a people who practiced abominations and enjoyed it (idol worship, sexual immorality, temple prostitution) . They were also eager to infect the nations around them with their lifestyle and in the context of the OT, Ancient Israel was greatly affected by their influence. Its worldliness, its worship of evil all combined to make Babylon the symbol of wicked societies and spiritual bondage and that is why even in Revelations that wicked modern 'City' is given her name BABYLON ! Babylon stands for great wickedness, sin and defiance of God and all his ways. Throughout the times of the Prophets in the OT, the Israelites were warned repeatedly not to imitate the Babylonians and when they moved away from GOD, Babylon was used as an instrument of his justice - remember Jeremiah & Daniel ??

Another characteristic of Babylon was her great prosperity, historians record that through trade and intermixing of cultures, she became a wildly successful kingdom and is said to be the ancient world's first mega city by its size and population - remember one of the Wonders of the World are the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. She was known for her splendor which was unmatched by any of the kingdoms of the time. You could say she was the most popular kingdom of her time.

Having given you all this backstory, does ROME really appear to you to fit this mold of a wicked nation that evidently knows the Power of the One True GOD and still chooses to defy HIM ? Babylon does not just have a religious context but a Geo-Political one, SHE knows she is wealthy and blessed and does not hesitate to boast about it. HER Wickedness which has many aspects (culture, pride, strength, wealth), has spread to all the nations of the earth and they all want to imitate HER because she appears to be the standard for all of them to aspire to.

I know every time i say this you might think that i have something against your home country, I don't !!

Of what benefit is it to me if AMERICA is Babylon the Great ? The destruction detailed in Rev. 18 is scary to imagine - complete destruction in 1 HOUR ?? Even if it was ROME, think of all those people - men, women, children - millions of them just like you and me, destroyed in and instant !!

Is it Christ-like behavior for me to even attempt to 'celebrate' all this death and destruction ?

I wanted to add that Babylon is not judged so harshly because she is the only wicked nation around but because she SHOULD KNOW BETTER !!

All around our world, including my Home country (Kenya), there is an increase of wickedness and great Sin across the land; Most of the nations of this Earth (the most populous actually) India, China, Indonesia, Arab Nations are not even Christian and want nothing to do with JESUS but, their judgement will be less compared to Western Nations who by HIS Grace have known the One True GOD and still CHOSEN TO TURN AWAY.

A better comparison perhaps would be this: @Ahwatukee, a committed disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ in a Christian Nation with religious freedom who is running the Good Race with the hope that one day he will enter HIS Eternal Rest; Compare yourself then to a Muslim Man in Pakistan / Iraq / Qatar who has heard of JESUS but wants nothing to do with HIM - If Today you were to turn back and Lose your Salvation, DO YOU THINK GOD WILL JUDGE BOTH OF YOU THE SAME ??? NO !!!! The Judgement will be greater on you who SHOULD KNOW BETTER !!!!


Like i mentioned before, GOD is still speaking to his prophets regarding the state of the World today not just AMERICA, the post i made above is from a prophetic word given to Jeff Byerly; seek out messages other true prophets of the Lord have given on the issue or if you don't like this option, PLEASE SEEK OUT THE TRUTH FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IN PERSONAL PRAYER.

Again, i'll attach below a list of some prophets i trust, All are American and also a video of the late Rev. Billy Graham speaking on the same issue.



May the Lord Jesus Christ, Bless you and yours.










Some of the Prophets:









https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/07/stop-setting-and-guessing-dates/

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/04/...-the-earth-but-the-truth-is-most-of-you-will/

https://holyspiritwind.net/2017/10/...-that-i-am-about-to-speak-of-begin-to-happen/
 

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I agree that Revelation is regarding the future. When John was receiving this information from the angel, Roman Catholicism didn't even exist. The clues pointing to Rome are for us in the future who have seen the history of this counterfeit church of Rome and her evolution. We also need to look ahead at what she will become.
So, +1900 years beyond the time John wrote those words???

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Is +1,900 years "NEAR" to John? Where these things to "SHORTLY TAKE PLACE" or not for 2 millennium or more?

Are the 7 churches of Rev 1-3 still here? Can you go attend any of those 7 churches today? If not, then the letters to those churches had absolutely no meaning to them if all the events were to be future to us. Just as, were the OT prophets American prophets or ancient Jewish prophets?
 

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Matthew 23 is directed at Jerusalem, 1st century AD jerusalem.

Mystery Babylon is directed at something different that happens later.
NOPE. Mystery Babylon and Mat 23 were describing the same place and judgment. The language is identical.
 

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Interesting views....
I want to suss out more of this millenium reign though. Where is the evidence Jesus returned in 70 ad to earth and lived and reigned for 1000 years in Jerusalem until 1071? Am a bit puzzled by this.
 

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Hi Ahwatukee, i know we keep going back and forth on this issue, but, all i wanted to offer is my understanding of which nation i consider Babylon the Great to be.


The reason i keep inferring that maybe you lack objectivity on the issue is because you seem to want to ignore the finer points of the prophecy, maybe to satisfy a need to have ROME be the bad-guy in this particular portion of the prophecy.

We are in agreement that the Roman Catholics and actually the entire Catholic Faith are in great error about what they choose to believe and who they glorify (Mary, mother of Jesus) in their worship. This is demonic idolatry and they have have been used by the enemy to send Billions to Hell even this day and will be judged for it but, like i said, Babylon has peculiar characteristics that are listed in Rev. 17 and further detailed in Rev. 18.


Historical Babylon was a kingdom of wickedness where 'anything goes' was the motto of the day - they were a people who practiced abominations and enjoyed it (idol worship, sexual immorality, temple prostitution) . They were also eager to infect the nations around them with their lifestyle and in the context of the OT, Ancient Israel was greatly affected by their influence. Its worldliness, its worship of evil all combined to make Babylon the symbol of wicked societies and spiritual bondage and that is why even in Revelations that wicked modern 'City' is given her name BABYLON ! Babylon stands for great wickedness, sin and defiance of God and all his ways. Throughout the times of the Prophets in the OT, the Israelites were warned repeatedly not to imitate the Babylonians and when they moved away from GOD, Babylon was used as an instrument of his justice - remember Jeremiah & Daniel ??

Another characteristic of Babylon was her great prosperity, historians record that through trade and intermixing of cultures, she became a wildly successful kingdom and is said to be the ancient world's first mega city by its size and population - remember one of the Wonders of the World are the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. She was known for her splendor which was unmatched by any of the kingdoms of the time. You could say she was the most popular kingdom of her time.

Having given you all this backstory, does ROME really appear to you to fit this mold of a wicked nation that evidently knows the Power of the One True GOD and still chooses to defy HIM ? Babylon does not just have a religious context but a Geo-Political one, SHE knows she is wealthy and blessed and does not hesitate to boast about it. HER Wickedness which has many aspects (culture, pride, strength, wealth), has spread to all the nations of the earth and they all want to imitate HER because she appears to be the standard for all of them to aspire to.[/quote]

Yes, Rome/Vatican does fit that and here's why: The woman in Revelation is not referring to the literal city of Babylon, but is referred to as "Mystery, Babylon the Great." The mystery is that within Roman Catholicism most of her beliefs and practices stem from the pagan religions of the literal city of Babylon. We can start with the Mitre hat worn by the pope's and bishops which closely resemble the fish hat worn by the priest of Dagon of the Philistines, the pagan obelisk brought over from Hierapolis Egypt which is sitting out in St. Peter's square, transubstantiation which is the belief of eating the literal flesh and blood of Jesus and which resembles Mithraism, the worship of Mary which stems from queen of heaven worship, mother and son worship and the teaching of purgatory, to name a few. Just a cursory study of Roman Catholicism reveals who she really is.

I know every time i say this you might think that i have something against your home country, I don't !!

Of what benefit is it to me if AMERICA is Babylon the Great ? The destruction detailed in Rev. 18 is scary to imagine - complete destruction in 1 HOUR ?? Even if it was ROME, think of all those people - men, women, children - millions of them just like you and me, destroyed in and instant !!
Well I would ask you this, what about all of the countries who believe and practice Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. etc. I believe the destruction that Rome/Vatican will suffer is going to be nuclear, which is why it states in chapter 18 that no light will ever shine in her again, no sound of bride and bridegroom will ever be heard in her again, no musicians and no craftsmen of any trade will be found in her ever again. I believe this will be accomplished by a nuclear strike by the beast and the ten kings, which will keep anyone from being able to live there because of the nuclear contamination, ergo, "in one hour your destruction has come" and "they will see her burning from afar off."

I wanted to add that Babylon is not judged so harshly because she is the only wicked nation around but because she SHOULD KNOW BETTER !!
"And the woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

As I continue to make known, we must stay within the clues that the scriptures give us. That being said, Rome was that great city that ruled over the kings of the earth at the time John was receiving this information from the angel, which is point us to Rome and her counterfeit church. And that the woman is a city, not a nation. Neither is the word "city" figurative for representing a nation. Rome and her adulterous religions system fits the criteria perfectly. She is that city that sits on seven hills.

All around our world, including my Home country (Kenya), there is an increase of wickedness and great Sin across the land; Most of the nations of this Earth (the most populous actually) India, China, Indonesia, Arab Nations are not even Christian and want nothing to do with JESUS but, their judgement will be less compared to Western Nations who by HIS Grace have known the One True GOD and still CHOSEN TO TURN AWAY.

A better comparison perhaps would be this: @Ahwatukee, a committed disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ in a Christian Nation with religious freedom who is running the Good Race with the hope that one day he will enter HIS Eternal Rest; Compare yourself then to a Muslim Man in Pakistan / Iraq / Qatar who has heard of JESUS but wants nothing to do with HIM - If Today you were to turn back and Lose your Salvation, DO YOU THINK GOD WILL JUDGE BOTH OF YOU THE SAME ??? NO !!!! The Judgement will be greater on you who SHOULD KNOW BETTER !!!!


Like i mentioned before, GOD is still speaking to his prophets regarding the state of the World today not just AMERICA, the post i made above is from a prophetic word given to Jeff Byerly; seek out messages other true prophets of the Lord have given on the issue or if you don't like this option, PLEASE SEEK OUT THE TRUTH FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IN PERSONAL PRAYER.

Again, i'll attach below a list of some prophets i trust, All are American and also a video of the late Rev. Billy Graham speaking on the same issue.



May the Lord Jesus Christ, Bless you and yours.
As I previously posted, there are believers in Christ in every nation on earth.

God does not punish the righteous with the wicked.

God is going to first remove His church from all of those nations.

After that, God's wrath is going to be poured out upon all of those nations and not just the United States.

Mystery, Babylon the great, which is that city that ruled over the kings of the earth, with her headquarters sitting on seven hills and is dressed in purple and scarlet and with whom the kings and the inhabitants of the earth have and will commit spiritual adultery with, is Rome and her Babylonian based religious system, which the world is blind to and that because their faith is in Roman Catholicism instead of Christ. However, God has people within RC whom He is calling to come out of her, i.e. come out of her false religious system.

My understanding of this, is not based on my concern for America, but is based on the truth of scripture and all the clues that God provides in His word regarding this issue.
 
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Okay, I guess time will settle this issue for us.

God Bless You Brother.
 

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The Only Thing that will be Great Again About America will be Her Fall because She has Forsaken Me!



6-3-19

Jeff Byerly

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/06/...will-be-her-fall-because-she-has-forsaken-me/



My son, I want you to write to My people once again because there are so few who know My voice when I speak and even fewer who understand what I am saying. My judgments are in the Earth even now but most would dismiss them as naturally occurring events, or climate change due to man or even man that is controlling the changes you are experiencing.

This is untrue I AM in control, I AM using My destroyer of nations just as I have intended and this will intensify until the of the age. Even now you are experiencing more floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, volcanoes than you have experienced in your “modern history” but there are far more to come.

I have been merciful and even in My judgement I am merciful but as sin becomes greater so do My judgments. I send these things upon the Earth so that man humbles themselves, repents and cries out to Me but most only further harden their heart, stiffen their neck and even shake their fists towards Me in rebellious rage.

This vicious cycle that could be stopped if repentance was truly found in the hearts of men but it is in very few hearts and he number is getting fewer as time goes on. As My judgments grow greater in order to shake fallen man out of his complacency. I will allow everything to be touched by the enemy, even those who are Mine that have not fully surrendered every aspect of their lives to Me.

Yes, this will even touch you America! You are not above reproach! You will be the hardest hit! You have fallen into the greatest sin of all and you love it. You once knew Me but you have fallen away that which is holy and good and you despise My correction. I have warned you over and over by My prophets and watchmen especially over the last 10 years but you are not listening to Me.

You have been deafened by the chaotic noise from the god of this world, who most love even if they don’t know it. I have tried to warn you with My still small voice but that time is ending. My merciful judgments will shake America and the world to the very core in My last pleas for repentance from wickedness and sin.

I warn you again America, disaster and calamity comes quickly for you. After the Abraham Lincoln goes down in flames and you are embroiled in conflict, so will the tower that bears the name of Donald Trump and thus he will meet his demise during the fiery kickoff event.

As I have told you before Donald Trump is as Belshazzar, he shall be slain and America will be given to the Medes and the Persians. (This is modern day Iran and parts of the surrounding countries.)

After this fiery kick off event the most severe judgment on America begins. Most will not understand that this has all been planned for years and now the stage has been set and all the players are in place. War on America will come on every front and internally.

Muslim Jihad and civil war will come simultaneously along with financial ruin, martial law, famine, disease as well as earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes and then nuclear and even destruction from “aliens”,which are the fallen ones, and their weapons that most do not even take into account.

Then My wrath shall be poured out upon you, oh Babylon the great! A great fireball that you don’t see coming because it is from Me. This will end the seal judgments and My sealed servants will be transformed and be sent out to harvest all those who would receive Me as Savior.

During all of this Obama will be welcomed back to lead America and most will put their trust in him and he will promise peace and protection but bring chaos and destruction. How foolish they will be found to be! How utterly foolish it is to trust in man instead of Me! He will absolutely do what his father Satan does best, steal, kill and destroy: all the time smiling and lying. He will finally be allowed to accomplish his objective.

As he departs America will be attacked from the north, while she is in total disarray and unable to defend herself. This is the final destruction in one hour by fire of Babylon the great.

The only thing that will be great again about America will be her fall because she has forsaken Me!

Even in this I seek the repentance of each individual soul. National repentance will not take place, judgment has been set.

You know not the abundance of tears I have shed for you but you have refused Me. ( I felt his pain a deep sorrow).

Children, there is still a very small amount of time left to surrender all to Me before this comes to pass. “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:36).

My chosen remnant- bride will escape the destruction to be used by Me in the last harvest but even these have and will go through tribulation and testing to make them perfect, even as I the captain of their salvation was perfected through sufferings. (Heb 2:10) My unselfish love in their hearts will be used to save many from the flames of the lake of fire.

Come to Me in intimacy today and ask Me to use you in this soon coming hour of trial for the whole earth. (Rev3:10)

I will answer your prayers if they are truly from your heart with no selfish motive. I AM the one who judges every motive, thought and intent of the heart. (Heb 4:12)

Be cleansed by My blood and be transformed by renewing your mind by My Spirit. This is your spiritual act of worship! This is My good acceptable and perfect will for you! (Rom 12:1-2) For I am a Spirit, and those who worship Me must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:23)

The time comes quickly and no man can stop the judgment for it is My will. Draw close to Me and Give All to Me Now!

I Want You All to Suffer as Little as Possible. Listen to and be Doer of My Words!

I Love You All without measure!

Yashua HaMashiach
Jesus Christ
Surprise surprise, AMERICA is not what the Bible is about. Its mostly focused in on the MIDDLE-EAST and former Roman Empire. TOUGH LUCK!
 

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I want to suss out more of this millenium reign though. Where is the evidence Jesus returned in 70 ad to earth and lived and reigned for 1000 years in Jerusalem until 1071? Am a bit puzzled by this.
So much evidence. Will share when I have more time, but NOTHING says He reigns in Jerusalem. Where are you getting that?
 

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Okay, I guess time will settle this issue for us.

God Bless You Brother.
Yes, I agree! For we will be watching it take place from above.

And blessings in Christ to you as well.
 
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"I tell you this day Donald Trump is also as Belshazzar for he is the last king of Babylon/America."


Received 2-16 through 2-18-18

JEFF BYERLY

https://holyspiritwind.net/2018/02/...r-for-he-is-the-last-king-of-babylon-america/



America, this is the Lord Jesus Christ, Yahushua HaMashiach, the one who loves you more than any other and the one that your nation used to love. You have fallen away from Me and it grieves My heart to tell you the things that I must tell you now. Not many days from now there will be an event that will change everything in your world.

This is not the first time that I have told you this through My son and I’ve told you many times, to many of My servants the prophets, and to My watchmen, and even to many of My people who just know Me very well.

In the past I have told My son that this is the “kick-off event” because many other events will follow afterward.

After it will follow war, economic collapse, martial law and lawlessness, famine, diseases and plagues, persecution of those called by My name, be-headings, torture, extreme weather both hot and cold, hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, mega-earthquakes, meteors and asteroids, hail, and fire mingled with blood shall fall, as well as hailstones weighing hundreds of pounds, tsunamis, and everything that is in My Scriptures, including the coming of the fallen angels, which include the locust creatures and the giants and others.

Remember that I have said “As the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating (human flesh) and drinking (human blood), marrying (human women) and giving (human women) in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark.” (Matt 24:37-38)

I am the Ark of safety for My beloved remnant. Those who are Mine will be spared from My wrath but they will suffer the wrath of Satan in differing degrees, depending on how pure and holy they have kept themselves. Only My blood can wash your sins whiter than snow and then you can put on My robe of righteousness, for My bride must be without spot or wrinkle or any such thing.

My warnings have awakened some, but not as many as I would like. My will is that all would awaken, just as it is My will that all would be saved by My blood sacrifice for all of humanity, but most do not accept it. America, you have not listened to My words and you have not repented from your evil, wicked, sinful ways and I must allow the judgment to go forth.

The repentance from the former judgments that I’ve allowed was very short-lived and now almost everyone has gone back their evil, wicked, sinful ways, except for a very few.

America, you have been lied to! Oh My people, don’t you see? I would have mercy on you but you have not repented! Your false prophets say all is well but they lie, for they know Me not.

They say the things that people want to hear because they are nice, positive, easy words which require no change or commitment on the part of the people.

They do not listen to My words but the words of the deceiver are on their tongues. Yes, lying spirits have been allowed to be sent out through them and have even filled the mouths of those who had previously preached My word with fire and conviction of the Holy Spirit and in the fear of the Lord, but now they fear only men.

They did not remain diligent in protecting the integrity of My word and they have exchanged the truth for a lie. I allowed this to test the leaders and those who call themselves by My name, for I am dividing the sheep from the sheep as well as from the goats.

You have been told by the lying spirits that Donald Trump is as Cyrus but this is not true. For the reign of Babylon has not ended, but very soon it will.

America is Babylon the great, “Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.” (Rev 18:8)

I have told My son before that Donald Trump is as Saul because My people wanted a king, just as Israel did, and I gave her one but he was not My perfect choice. I wanted to be the only king for Israel, just as I wanted this for My people in America.

I tell you this day, Donald Trump is also as Belshazzar, for he is the last king of Babylon/America.

I say to you this day, America, the words that were written upon the wall (Daniel 5:25-28) “MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. This is the interpretation of each word. MENE: God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it; TEKEL: You have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting; PERES: Your kingdom has been divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.”

I tell you the Medes and Persians represent America’s enemies and many are within your borders and in your government offices. “That very night Belshazzar, king of the Chaldeans (Babylonians), was slain.” (Daniel 5:30)

Babylon/America shall be first taken over and then utterly destroyed, after Donald Trump is slain. The one who America really loves will replace him (Trump) and will oversee her (America’s) complete destruction.

I tell you America, there are not many days left for you that will be as peaceful as it is even now.

What is coming is the product of the seeds that you have planted. Once it begins, it will never be the same. Former things will never come back.

Many will long for the former days but those that do shall be consumed as Lot’s wife and they shall be lost.

My remnant, I want you to begin to pray, not for Me to take this event away, for it must come now, but for mercy upon those who will see the end of their life on Earth.

You must be praying now that My Holy Spirit would reveal Me to their hearts and that they would be broken and repent before this calamity, destruction, and the great loss of men’s lives takes place.

Pray that many would know My name and that they would be saved from the flames of hell in their last dying breaths, as they cry out My name; Jesus or Yeshua or Yahushua or “GOD HELP ME!” Or even “GOD IF YOU’RE THERE I NEED YOU!” I alone can judge a man’s heart and that is exactly what I judge.

I have never made a mistake yet and I never will!

There will be no peace on this Earth until I reign from My throne in Jerusalem.
 
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America,the Fiery Kick-Off Event is Still Coming Right on Time…MY TIME!




11-23-18

JEFF BYERLY

https://holyspiritwind.net/2018/11/...-event-is-still-coming-right-on-time-my-time/



America, you celebrated Thanksgiving but you are not thankful to Me.

Yes, most of you mouthed the words of a prayer spoken over a meal with your family but your thoughts and hearts were far from Me.

Thanksgiving used to be one of your man-made holidays where you did truly acknowledge Me but no more.

Now you don’t even wait until the next day to fulfill your greed.

After your gluttonous meal, you run out to the stores to buy more stuff, to fill your never-ending appetite for material possessions.

Most of you have no idea what is like to go without anything that you need or even want…but very soon you will.

America, I tell you once again, even though so few are listening, the fiery kick off event is still coming right on time…MY TIME!

Everything that you lust for now will be gone after this.

Your wealth will be gone in a blink of an eye because it was made of paper and it will burn up and then so will your entire country, from coast to coast and everything in between except for what I protect, which will be very little.

America, you will never truly repent for your sins. It has been proven over and over and over again by Me.

I have allowed disasters to come upon you and then watched to see who would cry out to Me. There are always a few that do but it’s getting to be fewer and fewer.

There is no need for Me because man steps in and saves the day and everything goes back to normal…but soon man will not be able to repair the disasters and calamities that I allow.

Then America, you will cry out! But the shaking, the fire and the waves will show no mercy and neither will your enemies as they completely over-run all of the land.

Mercy will only be shown to those who cry out NOW!

I call you to repentance one more time men of America!

Will you listen and live or harden your hearts again and die in judgement and in your sin?

I leave you with these verses to ponder:


Isaiah 1:16-20

“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes.
Cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, rebuke the oppressor;
defend the fatherless, plead for the widow.’
“Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the Lord,
“Though your sins are like scarlet,
They shall be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They shall be as wool.
If you are willing and obedient,
You shall eat the good of the land;
But if you refuse and rebel,
You shall be devoured by the sword”;
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.




Only My blood can take away your sins and only repentance of sins can bring My protection over you; not over America but over those who cry out.


Jesus Christ

Yashua ha Mashiach
 
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Dream, Interpretation and Word: Bank on Fire



6-30-19

JEFF BYERLY

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/06/dream-interpretation-and-word-bank-on-fire/



Three weeks ago(6-8-19 I think) I had a dream that I didn’t really understand at first, so I prayed about it. I usually do not get dreams that I remember so when I do, that in itself is significant. The Holy Spirit confirmed to me that it was a warning dream that was given to me to share with those in the the body of Jesus Christ.

In the original dream I saw a bank, not a skyscraper but a large building with quite a few offices. (similar to the picture above).

Then I saw a semi tractor-trailer tanker truck, exactly like the ones that fill up gas stations, pull up next to the bank which I thought was very odd.

Next I saw quite a few people, who I had just a “knowing” about them being banking executives in expensive suits, sneaking out of the building.

Just as the last one of these bankers got to a safe distance there was a huge explosion and the dream was over.

So you can see that the original dream was not a very easy one to interpret really but I knew that the Lord was going to give more about it and He did.

But I did not get the interpretation of this dream until 6-28 through 6-30-19 along with some added flash visions during my morning time of prayer and worship.

He does things in His own time and we must not try to rush Him or run ahead of Him. That is when we try to do things in our own strength and/or knowledge. That is called “walking in the flesh” but to hear and/or see what the Holy Spirit is doing, we must be walking in the Spirit or yielding control of our body, soul and spirit to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ by dying to the flesh daily. (If you would like to read more on this, here are some great scriptures: (Romans 8, Galatians 5).

So when I totally surrendered this dream and laid it at the feet of Jesus, then He gave me the added visions that I needed, along with interpretation and a message that He wants to speak to all of us.

The first flash vision I had was about the semi tractor-trailer tanker truck. The driver of the truck hooked the delivery hose to the underground storage tank and then walked away. While the driver’s back is turned a masked man disconnected the hose from the tank and it started dumping thousands of gallons of gasoline all around the outside of the bank.

Then I saw second flash vision of another masked man holding a lit match and he threw it on the gasoline all over the ground and all at once the entire building was on fire. These masked men may be members of ISIS or some other terrorist organization or someone who looks like one of them, like Russian Spetsnaz or even some other group that I am not aware of. The building was not totally destroyed but it was very badly damaged.

This is what the Lord has given me for the interpretation of all of this put together.

The bank represents current financial system, with the American dollar as the world reserve currency, that has been in place since the inception of the Petrodollar in 1974 by President Richard Nixon and secretary of state Henry Kissinger with the Saudi royal family who were the most powerful member of OPEC (Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries).

This took America off of the gold standard (also called the Bretton Woods agreement) and forced every oil importing nation in the world to buy American dollars to buy oil.

The semi tractor-trailer fuel tanker truck represents the SWIFT system that delivers currency to the current banking system.

The gasoline itself is representative of the petrodollar that fuels the current banking system.

When the delivery hose is disconnected and spills all over the ground, it represents countries that are bypassing the petrodollar and using their own systems for transactions.

The masked man who throws the lit match represents the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln getting struck by fire and sinking.

The bankers and wealthy know that this is coming because this is part of the New World Order plan to bring in the new financial system, which will be the beast system.

The fire and explosion on the bank building represents a huge downturn in the economy of America and War with Iran. The current banking system involving the petrodollar, will not come down all the way at this point but it will be severely weakened.

The fiery kickoff event will damage it even more.

There will be many natural cataclysms that will bring the American economy down as well.

It will not come down all the way until after 6th seal great earthquake caused by an asteroid strike in the Caribbean (as seen by Efrain Rodriguez - http://www.heavenvisit.com/Efrain_Rodriguez.php ).

Then Russia and China attack and invade America and all her major cities will be burned to the ground.


This is a word that the Lord gave me in the morning of June 30th 2019 that goes with everything given above:

“My children, you are the only ones listening to Me right now, please take this message very seriously.

The world is preoccupied with their own microcosm of life.

I will allow the things I have told you about now to get their attention so that they would look to Me and cry out to Me.

Some will turn to Me but most will not and they will harden their hearts and stiffen their necks even more toward Me.

There have been been many deceiving spirits and false prophets sent out amongst My people to tell you that everything is going to be fine for now and that you have years to prepare but this is UTTERLY UNTRUE!

Some of the judgment has already come upon you America but there is much more coming because there is no repentance in the land.

Look to the middle of your country America, your crops have failed to be planted, food shortages and famine are coming to the land of plenty.

The explosion at the refinery in Philadelphia was the beginning of what is to come as well. More and even larger refineries will be taken out and your transportation system will come to a screeching halt as the price of fuel, food and everything else skyrockets.

This will be multiplied even more because of the fall of the petrodollar.

It’s all converging upon you now America.

You are going to crash and burn in one hour! I have spoken this many times to many of My messengers and it will come to pass for you are Babylon the great!

To all who would listen and see, you must seek Me now with all of your heart so that I strengthen your body, soul and most importantly spirit, for what is about to happen.

Everything that I have told My prophets is about to come to pass both good and bad not only in America but the whole world.

There is no place that will escape judgment except where My holy children are located, My blessings are upon them.

The darkness is rising but the light is rising as well and will overcome the darkness but there can be no darkness found in you, My remnant-bride.

Your garments must be without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, washed to sparkling white in my blood that was shed.

You will shine for Me and will show My mercy in the judgment as I empower you to do mighty miracles never before seen upon the earth before I bring you home to be with Me forever.

The first part of the judgment on America is through the door and the rest comes quickly.

You will see it happen with your own eyes and know that you have been warned.

Be filled with My oil that I give freely and My supply never runs dry!

Ask of Me and I give to all those who desire Me more than anything or anyone else and you will overflow and touch others with My love.

Jesus Christ

Yahshua Hamashiach ”
 
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The Economy that Your Country (America) has Enjoyed is Falling Even Now




JEFF BYERLY

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/11/...ntry-america-has-enjoyed-is-falling-even-now/



On the evening of 11-6-19 I was sent a video in my email from AMTV. (Alternative Media TV)

I would have deleted it immediately if I would have realized who it was from because I differ greatly with their views on many things, for example: Donald Trump, Bitcoin etc. etc.. But, when I read the title of the video “BREAKING!!! U.S. DOLLAR COLLAPSE OFFICIAL!!! CHINA DECLARES NEW RESERVE YUAN” the Lord spoke to me and said “My son, the ' Dream, Interpretation and Word of the Bank on Fire ' is coming to pass before your very eyes.”

At this my spirit became very alert and I felt led to watch about the first 4 minutes of the video and then I began to pray about this until I fell asleep.

The next morning during My morning worship time with the Lord, He spoke to me about this again and also again for the next 2 days.



This is what the Lord Jesus Christ, Yahushua ha Mashiach has spoken to me by the Holy Spirit:


“My son, along with your dream of the bank on fire the ' Vision and Word from the Lord Concerning the Dollar and its Destruction ' is coming to pass now as well.

The reign of the queen of nations is coming to an end. Your highest idol is being torn down !

The economy that your country (America) has enjoyed is falling even now.

This has actually been going on for a very long time but because you still have peace and safety and what looks like prosperity very few realize it.

Your lying media outlets do not alert the masses to what is truly going on behind the scenes.

The false prophets say that everything is going to be OK, not to worry!

They proclaim that their king (Trump) is not going to let them down because he was CHOSEN OF GOD, but, the fact is that he was ALLOWED.

He was allowed by Me to bring judgments of war and financial ruin upon a people and a country that once knew Me so that they will return to Me.

He and the once great nation that he leads have become a leech of my people’s prayers.

Oh, that they would take that time to truly seek Me and pray for the people around them that don’t know Me, that I might move on their behalf and save them.

They will both be offered as a burnt offering to the god of this world Satan and the fiery kick off event in New York City is the start.

There are some, reading or hearing this message, that believe that they will escape before poverty and famine comes but they will be surprised and unprepared.

Very few pay attention to what is reality and what I am saying.

I tell you very soon, peace and safety will turn into destruction and prosperity will turn into absolute poverty.

You have had 11 years of warning since the last “financial crisis”. What have you done to prepare?

This next “financial crisis” will make the last one look like a walk in the park.

The next one will make the “Great Depression” seem like a small inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

Look at current day Venezuela and multiply it by 7 to get an Idea of what’s coming to America.

Look to post-World War 1 Germany and see who arose out of that collapse - HITLER. The leader that is coming is 70 times 7 times worse than Hitler.

The Germans loved Hitler but the Whole World will wonder after the Beast. They already adore him but it will multiply quickly.

There is little time left now and this economic collapse of America will affect the entire world because most countries still use the dollar to trade.

Some of you would ask Me: “ What shall we do? ” , “ How do we avoid this coming economic catastrophe? ”

I tell you that, you will not avoid this but, you will live only by My hand.

Your cash will become more worthless than the paper that it is printed on.

Bitcoin and all other electronic currencies are worthless with no electricity and they will be controlled by the coming Beast System. They are able to turn it off at will.

Don’t fool yourself My children! Gold and Silver will have some value but, It is written:

(Ezekiel 7:19 ESV) - “They cast their silver into the streets, and their gold is like an unclean thing. Their silver and gold are not able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord. They cannot satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it. For it was the stumbling block of their iniquity.”


My children who are filled with the oil and the wine of My spirit, you are the ones who will be affected the least by this.

This does not mean that you will not be affected by this. You are being affected even now, your money is becoming worth less and less by the day.

There is wisdom in buying food, water and supplies if I tell you to do so but don’t put your trust in them.

Those who put their trust in “things” will see all of it vanish from before their very eyes.

There are many ways that I can allow this to happen; thieves, fires, floods, tornados, hurricanes, earthquakes, I can even pile up snow so deep that it would break the roof of the dwelling of those who don’t trust in Me.

Eventually there will be foreign armies that will find those who don’t trust in Me and they will come into that dwelling and take all that they want including the lives of those who live there.

This will touch both rich and poor, great and small. Even those who think that they are the ones that are in control will be touched by Me personally and they will be in sheer terror.

My wrath shall be poured upon them and they will not stand. The Rock of Ages is coming to crush all of those who do not fall on Me and be broken in repentance.

My children, you will have to trust Me with everything that is within you! If you let fear take control of you, you will fall into the hands of the enemy and he will have his way with you and this is not My will.

I will provide for My own ! Look at the promises in My word. You need to know them and stand on them. For all of the promises of God are “Yes and Amen!” in Me for I AM the fulfilment of all the law and all of prophecy.

No one can satisfy the law outside of Me and the testimony of Me (Jesus) is the very Spirit of prophecy. Did not David say: (Num.37:25 NKJV) - " I have been young, and now am old; yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his descendants begging bread. ”


Did I not make manna appear every day for the Israelites to eat in the wilderness?

Was not Elijah fed bread and meat by ravens both morning and evening?

Was not the widow’s oil and flour multiplied and did not her, her son and Elijah eat for many days from it?

Did I not feed 5000 men and their families with 5 loaves and 2 fish?

Did I not feed 4000 men and their families with 7 loaves and a few fishes?

I will supply all of your needs according to My riches in glory, you must only believe.

When there is no earthly way I AM the way!

(Num.23:19 AMP) - "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken and will He not make it good and fulfill it? ”


My children If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. If You ask Me for something and do not receive it, it is because you ask with wrong motives out of selfishness or with an unrighteous agenda, so that when you get what you want you may spend it on your own hedonistic desires.

If you are in need of anything you must believe, not doubt, waver or be double-minded.

(Matt. 6:31-33 NKJV) - “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.”


I want to show My glory to the unbelievers in you, through you and upon you !

The wealth of the nations will indeed come to you when My glory rises upon you during the tangibly, thick darkness but for yet a little while you must have faith and believe what I say is true.

The trials that you go through now are not worthy to be compared to the glory that will be revealed in you! This is what is to take place in your day and it is not far off!

(Isaiah 60:19-20 ESV) - “The sun shall be no more your light by day, nor for brightness shall the moon give you light; but the Lord will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory. Your sun shall no more go down, nor your moon withdraw itself; for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and your days of mourning shall be ended.”

My words will all come to pass quickly for the time to hasten them has come !
 

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Interesting views....
I want to suss out more of this millenium reign though. Where is the evidence Jesus returned in 70 ad to earth and lived and reigned for 1000 years in Jerusalem until 1071? Am a bit puzzled by this.
Lanolin,

Thanks for your interest in the truth, unlike the vast majority on here who prefer the teachings of men over the teachings of God. They want to ignore history and the plain teaching that Christ would return during that very generation in which He lived. This will take several posts.

The first thing to recognize is the nature of Christ's "return." He was not to return as a man-like visible being. We know this because the disciples asked for signs. If Christ's return would be obvious, there would be no need for signs. It was His presence that returned in the same way that God's presence was with Israel in the OT. In Mat 24, Jesus describes His return (PRESENCE RETURN) as a flash of lightening. Roman historian Tacitus records a flash of lightening hitting the temple during the Roman war with the Jews.

Parousia (the word translated as "return" is incorrect in most translations. It should have been translated as PRESENCE as it is in Young's Literal Translation. The opposite of Parousia is absence. Notice also, it isn't the world coming to an end, it was only the Mosaic age coming to an end. See the YLT below.

`Tell us, when shall these be? and what [is] the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'

These two translations errors have thrown Afrikan and Ahwatukee for a loop.

Here are more signs recorded by Josephus who was actually there in his own words:

"So great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it. At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple. Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner [court of the] temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again. This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared that the signal foreshowed the desolation that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence." (Josephus War of the Jews Book 6, Chapter 5, Para 3)

Notice the half hour that the light surrounded the temple? I believe this is the same half hour where heaven became silent in Rev 8:1 which was right when Christ opened the 7th seal in heaven. At that moment, His Presence returned to Jerusalem and His Wrath was about to be poured out. The above matches Rev 8:1-5.
 

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The Economy that Your Country (America) has Enjoyed is Falling Even Now




JEFF BYERLY

https://holyspiritwind.net/2019/11/...ntry-america-has-enjoyed-is-falling-even-now/



On the evening of 11-6-19 I was sent a video in my email from AMTV. (Alternative Media TV)

I would have deleted it immediately if I would have realized who it was from because I differ greatly with their views on many things, for example: Donald Trump, Bitcoin etc. etc.. But, when I read the title of the video “BREAKING!!! U.S. DOLLAR COLLAPSE OFFICIAL!!! CHINA DECLARES NEW RESERVE YUAN” the Lord spoke to me and said “My son, the ' Dream, Interpretation and Word of the Bank on Fire ' is coming to pass before your very eyes.”

At this my spirit became very alert and I felt led to watch about the first 4 minutes of the video and then I began to pray about this until I fell asleep.

The next morning during My morning worship time with the Lord, He spoke to me about this again and also again for the next 2 days.



This is what the Lord Jesus Christ, Yahushua ha Mashiach has spoken to me by the Holy Spirit:


“My son, along with your dream of the bank on fire the ' Vision and Word from the Lord Concerning the Dollar and its Destruction ' is coming to pass now as well.

The reign of the queen of nations is coming to an end. Your highest idol is being torn down !

The economy that your country (America) has enjoyed is falling even now.

This has actually been going on for a very long time but because you still have peace and safety and what looks like prosperity very few realize it.

Your lying media outlets do not alert the masses to what is truly going on behind the scenes.

The false prophets say that everything is going to be OK, not to worry!

They proclaim that their king (Trump) is not going to let them down because he was CHOSEN OF GOD, but, the fact is that he was ALLOWED.

He was allowed by Me to bring judgments of war and financial ruin upon a people and a country that once knew Me so that they will return to Me.

He and the once great nation that he leads have become a leech of my people’s prayers.

Oh, that they would take that time to truly seek Me and pray for the people around them that don’t know Me, that I might move on their behalf and save them.

They will both be offered as a burnt offering to the god of this world Satan and the fiery kick off event in New York City is the start.

There are some, reading or hearing this message, that believe that they will escape before poverty and famine comes but they will be surprised and unprepared.

Very few pay attention to what is reality and what I am saying.

I tell you very soon, peace and safety will turn into destruction and prosperity will turn into absolute poverty.

You have had 11 years of warning since the last “financial crisis”. What have you done to prepare?

This next “financial crisis” will make the last one look like a walk in the park.

The next one will make the “Great Depression” seem like a small inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

Look at current day Venezuela and multiply it by 7 to get an Idea of what’s coming to America.

Look to post-World War 1 Germany and see who arose out of that collapse - HITLER. The leader that is coming is 70 times 7 times worse than Hitler.

The Germans loved Hitler but the Whole World will wonder after the Beast. They already adore him but it will multiply quickly.

There is little time left now and this economic collapse of America will affect the entire world because most countries still use the dollar to trade.

Some of you would ask Me: “ What shall we do? ” , “ How do we avoid this coming economic catastrophe? ”

I tell you that, you will not avoid this but, you will live only by My hand.

Your cash will become more worthless than the paper that it is printed on.

Bitcoin and all other electronic currencies are worthless with no electricity and they will be controlled by the coming Beast System. They are able to turn it off at will.

Don’t fool yourself My children! Gold and Silver will have some value but, It is written:

(Ezekiel 7:19 ESV) - “They cast their silver into the streets, and their gold is like an unclean thing. Their silver and gold are not able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord. They cannot satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it. For it was the stumbling block of their iniquity.”


My children who are filled with the oil and the wine of My spirit, you are the ones who will be affected the least by this.

This does not mean that you will not be affected by this. You are being affected even now, your money is becoming worth less and less by the day.

There is wisdom in buying food, water and supplies if I tell you to do so but don’t put your trust in them.

Those who put their trust in “things” will see all of it vanish from before their very eyes.

There are many ways that I can allow this to happen; thieves, fires, floods, tornados, hurricanes, earthquakes, I can even pile up snow so deep that it would break the roof of the dwelling of those who don’t trust in Me.

Eventually there will be foreign armies that will find those who don’t trust in Me and they will come into that dwelling and take all that they want including the lives of those who live there.

This will touch both rich and poor, great and small. Even those who think that they are the ones that are in control will be touched by Me personally and they will be in sheer terror.

My wrath shall be poured upon them and they will not stand. The Rock of Ages is coming to crush all of those who do not fall on Me and be broken in repentance.

My children, you will have to trust Me with everything that is within you! If you let fear take control of you, you will fall into the hands of the enemy and he will have his way with you and this is not My will.

I will provide for My own ! Look at the promises in My word. You need to know them and stand on them. For all of the promises of God are “Yes and Amen!” in Me for I AM the fulfilment of all the law and all of prophecy.

No one can satisfy the law outside of Me and the testimony of Me (Jesus) is the very Spirit of prophecy. Did not David say: (Num.37:25 NKJV) - " I have been young, and now am old; yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his descendants begging bread. ”


Did I not make manna appear every day for the Israelites to eat in the wilderness?

Was not Elijah fed bread and meat by ravens both morning and evening?

Was not the widow’s oil and flour multiplied and did not her, her son and Elijah eat for many days from it?

Did I not feed 5000 men and their families with 5 loaves and 2 fish?

Did I not feed 4000 men and their families with 7 loaves and a few fishes?

I will supply all of your needs according to My riches in glory, you must only believe.

When there is no earthly way I AM the way!

(Num.23:19 AMP) - "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken and will He not make it good and fulfill it? ”


My children If you ask anything in My name, I will do it. If You ask Me for something and do not receive it, it is because you ask with wrong motives out of selfishness or with an unrighteous agenda, so that when you get what you want you may spend it on your own hedonistic desires.

If you are in need of anything you must believe, not doubt, waver or be double-minded.

(Matt. 6:31-33 NKJV) - “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.”


I want to show My glory to the unbelievers in you, through you and upon you !

The wealth of the nations will indeed come to you when My glory rises upon you during the tangibly, thick darkness but for yet a little while you must have faith and believe what I say is true.

The trials that you go through now are not worthy to be compared to the glory that will be revealed in you! This is what is to take place in your day and it is not far off!

(Isaiah 60:19-20 ESV) - “The sun shall be no more your light by day, nor for brightness shall the moon give you light; but the Lord will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory. Your sun shall no more go down, nor your moon withdraw itself; for the Lord will be your everlasting light, and your days of mourning shall be ended.”

My words will all come to pass quickly for the time to hasten them has come !
How is your economy doing??