Marriage question

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I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
In certain states (including Colorado where I live) there is the concept of common law marriage. If you live and present yourselves publicly as married you are considered legally married. I don't know if you live in a common law state and I don't know if you meet the criteria.

However, if you consider yourself married, why not fill out the paperwork and have the ceremony to remove any doubt?
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
There are two problems here:

Firstly, you appear to be looking for excuses for your sin instead of actively excising it from your life.

Secondly, you claimed you are a Christian, and stated that she is not. Read Paul's words in 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers."

In practical terms, that means if you are a believer in Christ, don't marry an unbeliever, and don't get into a business partnership with an unbeliever. Those are "yokes". God doesn't tell us this to limit our enjoyment of life, but to protect us from misery and hardship. Living with an unbeliever "as though married" is as much a violation of this principle as actual marriage.

Marrying an unbeliever is a surefire way to heartache. While you may love her with the strength of Christ, she can't do the same for you. She has no anchor in her worldview that makes adultery, abuse, neglect, or any other mistreatment fundamentally wrong. She can't agree with you in prayer. She can't pray for you. She has no obligation to respect you as Scripture requires her to do. She will likely (eventually) resist whatever time or money you want to give to the things of God. If you have children together, there WILL be constant tension in the home about how to raise them, and the consistent pattern is that faith loses out to convenience.

For both your sakes, don't marry her until and unless she becomes a believer in Christ with at least as much passion for Him as you have (and hopefully a whole lot more than you're currently displaying!).

As for your current situation, answer this for yourself: Who are you trying to please? Yourself? Her (or other people)? Or God?

May the Lord give you His clear guidance and conviction in this matter.
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
In the eyes of God, you may indeed be married if he, indeed, joined the two of you together. Is there a degree of tentativeness from either of you in actually getting legally married?
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?


Don't you want to talk/pray about that to God directly?

Because He is the only one who has the power to save your soul or not.


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I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

Hi Jaywalker, I answered this more thoroughly in your other thread, so I will just put the abbreviated version here:

Even in Jesus' time, marriage was a legally and socially binding agreement that included a certificate, which was called a ketubah. Breaking a ketubah had legal ramifications and was not to be taken lightly. Even Moses required an actual divorce to ensure that marriage breakups would not be taken lightly.

Perhaps you feel a lifelong loyalty towards your lady, but without declaring so before God and man and meaning it so hard you're willing to risk legal ramifications if broken..... it's not technically a marriage.
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

Biblically, in the eyes of God, you are married once two become one flesh. There's nothing magically occurs when you say vows in front of a pastor. You should make your declaration of marriage known before others if you are seeking to appease family and church.
 
Biblically, in the eyes of God, you are married once two become one flesh. There's nothing magically occurs when you say vows in front of a pastor. You should make your declaration of marriage known before others if you are seeking to appease family and church.

How then could fornication exist if having sex means you are married? 🤔
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

why haven't you gotten married yet?
 
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I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

At face value this seems like something i'd agree with. I mean i lived with my wife for a couple of years before we went to the town hall.
But when we made the commitment to live together at that point we knew in our hearts that we would be together until the end. We knew this when we said "let's live together until the end".
So this depends on your intentions. If you love her with all your heart then the legal paper will come after.
Wish you all the best.
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
Why don't you just get married? Which one of you does not want to make that lifetime commitment?
 
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I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

In most jurisdictions, being official married carries legal protections and obligations for both parties that do not always exist without the official paperwork. Now the Bible does not reference a lot of legal paperwork that is known to have existed, but it does call on believers to obey the civil authorities, and if that included paperwork then the proper paperwork would have been expected of the believers. For instance, I am not aware of any biblical passages referencing the legal paperwork involved in owning a home or property, yet archeology knows of the existence of such, as well as bridal contracts.
 
At face value this seems like something i'd agree with. I mean i lived with my wife for a couple of years before we went to the town hall.
But when we made the commitment to live together at that point we knew in our hearts that we would be together until the end. We knew this when we said "let's live together until the end".
So this depends on your intentions. If you love her with all your heart then the legal paper will come after.
Wish you all the best.

while i agree with you in spirit here, i find value in not giving the world any opportunity to accuse us of unrighteousness, and not giving the appearance of sin.

hence what i really want to know is, if the OP isn't just trolling, what the couple is thinking, why they would not actually confess their marriage to the world?
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?
A long, long time ago I went out with someone I knew deep down I should never have gone out with. I tried to justify the relationship in my mind, but I could not convince myself enough to have any peace about it. That relationship lasted Severn years and cost me much, far too much.

A few years later, I met someone who was not a christian. I lived with them for a couple of months, but the burden of doing so was too great. I asked them to marry me, believing if they would not we would have to part, a fleece if you like put before God. The woman agreed to marry me, she totally changed, dramatically in fact, and we went to church together each week. I suppose it was trusting God, that if he truly was in the relationship he would bring the woman to agree to marriage.

My conclusion was, you cannot make a relationship God is not in work, but if He is in one, he will bring it to work out fine
 
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while i agree with you in spirit here, i find value in not giving the world any opportunity to accuse us of unrighteousness, and not giving the appearance of sin.

hence what i really want to know is, if the OP isn't just trolling, what the couple is thinking, why they would not actually confess their marriage to the world?

The OP has another BDF thread titled "Still saved, or not?" That gives more info.

He is a recent convert but his lady is not a believer. They were already living together for some time before his conversion. If they were both believers I'd just advise them to make it official. But at this point they might be common-law married anyway, as @NightTwister pointed out.
 
The OP has another BDF thread titled "Still saved, or not?" That gives more info.

He is a recent convert but his lady is not a believer. They were already living together for some time before his conversion. If they were both believers I'd just advise them to make it official. But at this point they might be common-law married anyway, as @NightTwister pointed out.

@JayWalker

If you find yourself saved, and yoked to the unsaved, prove yourself faithful to her.

if she wants to leave, let her. but you - love her with all your heart. do everything that satisfies the law to prove your love, whether it is returned or not.

be as Christ to her.
He is our Husband, legally.
He signed the paperwork with His own blood.
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

It is not considered being married by common law because you both do not consider it being married per "I've been living with my girlfriend". As I shared on your other thread:

Marriage is a spiritual union until death. [Matt. 19:4-6] The phrase about leaving one’s father and mother means that a man—and a woman—should be ready for marriage by attaining a sufficient degree of independence from their parents, both financial and psychological. They should be prepared to become parents themselves, even if they hope not to have a child for awhile, which means they should be rather spiritually mature, having the same love for each other as Christ has for His bride, the church.

The marital commitment is (or should be, cf. TOJ #109) signified by sexual union or becoming “one flesh” (Gen. 2:24), although it may be proper to fulfill legal and traditional expectations such as licenses and ceremonies for the purpose of avoiding being “a stumbling block to the weak” (1Cor. 8:9), who do not understand the essence of marriage. Obviously, that which must not be separated is the spiritual unity, so the sin of divorce also is a spiritual event and reality before it becomes a legal one. This realization should motivate spouses to work on the quality of their communication before serious problems develop in their relationship. (See TOJ #26.)

TOJ #24: Do not desire to fornicate. [Matt. 5:27-30] God intends for sexual union to express marital commitment. Lust is not merely admiring physical beauty. It is possible to admire a flower without wanting to pick its petals. Neither is lust being tempted to fornicate or commit adultery. Jesus Himself may have been tempted in this way (Heb. 2:18). Lust is the desire to have extra-marital sexual intercourse, so that you would if you could “get away with it” or not experience negative consequences, such as disease, unwanted pregnancy and divorce.

TOJ #109: Do not commit adultery. [Matt. 19:18] Certainly, this teaching could be viewed as part of TOJ #24, but modern secular society stresses (idolizes?) sexuality so much that it is needful to reiterate that sexual intercourse is the act of marriage in the eyes of God (TOJ #104), so that anyone who has sex with a second partner commits both fornication (extra-marital sex) and adultery.

Much of secular society (music, movies, etc.) normalizes (and almost requires via peer pressure) sexual sins (“playboys”, “responsible sex”, “alternative lifestyles”, etc.). Such morally weak people should hope someone invents a pill (called “Cold Shower”?) that diminishes their libido and temptation to be promiscuous! {Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20}

Attaining moral purity is a lifelong process, and moral perfection is not attained in this life, but we should desire progress.
I have always been a one-woman guy, and my main answered prayer was for God to send me a soul-mate, which He did, so the closest I can come to a similar experience is when the Lord laid it on my heart that I should no longer listen to Rod Stewart's "Tonight's the Night" even though I loved the music because the lyrics advocated fornication. Thus, your days with the "girl friend" are numbered--unless you both make a lifelong marital commitment!

Hope this helps!
 
The New Testament doesn't describe a wedding ceremony specifically, but there are a few things we can learn from. For example John 4:16-18:

"Jesus told her, 'Go, call your husband and come back.' 'I have no husband,' the woman replied. Jesus said to her, 'You are correct to say that you have no husband. In fact, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. You have spoken truthfully.' "

Jesus didn't recognize the man she "now has" as her husband. People who are married are husband and wife.

Marriage ceremonies were undoubtedly different back then from what they are now, but there would've been some kind of formal ritual. We know there were weddings because Jesus attended one in Cana. Early Christians probably followed either Jewish, Greek or Roman customs.

There's an interesting early letter known as the Epistle to Diognetus. It's a letter from an unknown author to someone named Diognetus, explaining the customs and beliefs of the Christians. It's dated to around AD 200, give or take. It's a great window into early Christianity. There's a line in Chapter 5:

"They marry, like everyone else, and they have children, but they do not destroy their offspring."​

And just before that:

"The do not, like some, proclaim themselves the advocates of merely human doctrines. Instead, they inhabit both Greek and barbarian cities, however things have fallen to each of them. And it is while following the customs of the natives in clothing, food, and the rest of ordinary life that they display to us their wonderful and admittedly striking way of life."​

This seems to show that they followed the customs of the natives in the places where they lived, to the extent that it didn't compromise their faith. The whole letter is quite interesting.

https://www.christian-history.org/letter-to-diognetus.html

So why are their no detailed teachings on weddings? My guess is because weddings back then weren't the elaborate affairs they are today. The probably involved immediate family and didn't involve "clergy" at all. They just followed the normal customs of wherever they lived. But the New Testament teaching is clear, marriage is sacred and sexual immorality will be judged:

"Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." Hebrews 13:4​
 
The first marriage had three people involved, Adam, Eve, and God. This is what is essential. In today's society some people are considered legally married after living together for a specific period of time called common law marriage. A civil marriage establishes property rights, survivor rights, and a framework for the care of surviving children.

Wedding ceremony allows participation of friends and family. To exclude them can be sort of insulting and selfish. A ceremony is also a public testimony of a commitment to permanence and family.
 
I've been living with my girlfriend and we are exclusive not dating anybody else and are committed to one another

So why is this not considered being married?

Can anybody show my in the bible where we are told to get a marriage certificate and go before a judge so he can pronounce us man and wife in order to be married?

Yep....sure can.
Love thy neighbor as thyself....
Treat your wife as if she was your own body.
Husbands love your wife.
Love the wife of your youth.

Now with a completely legal marriage complete with licenses and paperwork comes many protection for her and you both.
The entire world considers marriage an institutional commitment. A living arrangement is not.
Where you do not see anything different from the day-to-day life of married vx living together.....life NEVER works that way.

Jesus told a parable about houses built on sand vx rock. And the key universal truth is in that one word "WHEN the rains came".
Meaning that troubles are coming at some point....and that marriage certificate is going to be necessary. She can speak for you and you can speak for her when either you or her cant speak for themselves. And that's important sometimes.....like during unforeseen medical emergencies and much much more.

If you truly love her....then why would you shortchange her in this fashion?
If your lives are committed to staying together until you both die....growing old together (absolutely normal) then what's so difficult about using every legal protection you two can perform for each other?

If going down to the courthouse to get legally married gives you pause....(and it ALWAYS should) why does it. It's not exactly expensive. (Affordable in every county in the world....marriage ceremonies are not but you really don't need a ceremony)

But just about every woman in this world dreams of being a princess on her wedding day....even if it's just for a day.
Dont even begin to think otherwise no matter what she says....if she says she doesn't....its a trap!
(She will hold it over your head) it doesn't have to be elaborate...but she definitely wants the day.

I'm just an old guy...with a bunch of nieces and sister-in-law and female friends of all ages and walks of life.

The scariest part is asking....afterwards your life is no longer your own. But as a Christian your life wasn't to start with...