Key OT Teachings
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yeah no I don’t really use the term creed lol I’ve used it maybe five times in my life . I was just pointing out a miscommunication between you about him using the term “ creed “ I don’t think he’s saying there are multiple faiths and doctrines . He just used a different term to describe “ a persons beliefs and convictions “ thier “ faith “ … thier creed “ what they believe , thier “ doctrine “
but he agrees that there’s just one doctrine that of the lord Jesus Christ . It’s just a different word not a different belief
Ok, I guess I’m getting that there are many people on this site that aren’t from the U.S. mainly from the lingo and misspellings. However, there are still some pretty twisted, wresting of Scripture out there that doesn’t align with the 1st. century church we read about in Scripture.
-“There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 NKJV
Yes there are alot of crazy insane and ridiculous ideas about doctrine here agree
theres just the one and it’s extremely important
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
2 John 1:9-10
I understood that and I always appreciate help with communicating more clearly. Thanks!
Yea brother that was me saying it to truth defender because it seems ( to me ) as if he thought you were talking about some different faith and doctrine because you used the term “creed “….
i was reading your conversation between th e two of you and noticed it seemed ( to me ) as if you had alot of agreement but there was a miscommunication around the term “ creed “
It was just an unwarranted attempt to bring attention to the part where you both had a lot of agreement in what you were saying but used different words to say it …..
Zephaniah contains one topic we should consider.
Zeph. 1:7&14. “The day of the Lord is near.” This day is also called “the day of the Lord’s wrath” (Zeph. 1:18 & 2:2) or simply “that day” (Zeph. 1:15, 2:2 & 3:11).
It seems that prophecies concerning doom often have two fulfillments (historical and eschatological). For example, Zeph. 1:4-13 seems to have been fulfilled when Judah was conquered by the Assyrians and Babylonians, but Zeph. 1:2-3 & 14-18 seem to describe an end of the world holocaust.
Haggai contains no new key teaching. It describes the rebuilding of the temple during the time of Ezra.
Ezra, Nehemiah and Esther were skipped, these historical books contain no new key teachings, and so we come to Zechariah.
Zech. 2:11. “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become [His] people.” This refers to the latter days between the first or second coming of Christ, when the mystery revealed by Paul occurs: Gentiles as well as Jews who have saving faith like Abraham will become God’s chosen people.
Zech. 8:3. “Jerusalem will be called The City of Truth”. This probably refers to the New Jerusalem at Christ’s second coming.
Zech. 14:9. “The Lord will be king over the whole earth on that day”, which would seem to be the last day or judgment day.
Your comments?
Zech. 2:11. “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become [His] people.” This refers to the latter days between the first or second coming of Christ, when the mystery revealed by Paul occurs: Gentiles as well as Jews who have saving faith like Abraham will become God’s chosen people.
Zech. 8:3. “Jerusalem will be called The City of Truth”. This probably refers to the New Jerusalem at Christ’s second coming.
Zech. 14:9. “The Lord will be king over the whole earth on that day”, which would seem to be the last day or judgment day.
Your comments?
Here is a Key OT teaching just added to the website (also see TOJ #34 re Matt. 6:10):
IS 11:1-9. This passage indicates that after the Judgment, Christ will reign on earth and the will of God will be done, as it is in heaven (Matt. 6:10). This vision is also described in IS 65:17-25. (The reference in v.23 to toiling in vain reminds the reader of Eccl. 2:10-11 & 20-23.)
IS 11:1-9. This passage indicates that after the Judgment, Christ will reign on earth and the will of God will be done, as it is in heaven (Matt. 6:10). This vision is also described in IS 65:17-25. (The reference in v.23 to toiling in vain reminds the reader of Eccl. 2:10-11 & 20-23.)
IS 48:17. “I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go. If only you had paid attention…” This verse reminds us that God is on our side when we are on His side, and that His desire is for our eternal joy.
Of course, many people do not pay attention or try to learn God’s Word. Instead, they go off on their own and find all kinds of trouble as prodigal children.
Of course, many people do not pay attention or try to learn God’s Word. Instead, they go off on their own and find all kinds of trouble as prodigal children.
Not true:
-“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.”
Matthew 24:35 NKJV
-“Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.”
Mark 13:31 NKJV
-"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look on the earth beneath. For the heavens will vanish away like smoke, the earth will grow old like a garment, and those who dwell in it will die in like manner; but My salvation will be forever, and My righteousness will not be abolished."
Isaiah 51:6 NKJV
-"And: "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; like a cloak You will fold them up, and they will be changed. But You are the same, and Your years will not fail.""
Hebrews 1:10-12 NKJV
Not clear.
Specifically what are you saying is not true?
And what do you say IS true?
Thanks.
Possibly, but again you fail to explain what part of my post {{{ IS 11:1-9. This passage indicates that after the Judgment, Christ will reign on earth and the will of God will be done, as it is in heaven (Matt. 6:10). This vision is also described in IS 65:17-25. (The reference in v.23 to toiling in vain reminds the reader of Eccl. 2:10-11 & 20-23.) }}} you are disagreeing with.
I agree that the NT indicates Christ will reign in heaven rather than on earth.
-Matt. 6:10 is referring to the church (His kingdom on earth).
-At present, He reigns in Heaven, sitting at the right hand of God the Father. His 2nd coming will be the end, everything will be rolled up and burned. We will be raised, sifted/ judged, and be with Him in heaven.
-In Isa. 11:1-9, Isaiah is talking about Jesus, the Branch.
-In Isa. 65:17-25, referring to the new creation. An enigma which is in the future.
(Just a thought, the old world will not be remembered anymore. We have no remembrance of the old world, prior to the flood.)
Yes, Isa. 11:1-9 is talking about Jesus, and v. 9 says the earth will be filled with knowledge of the Lord.
Yes, Isa. 65:17-25 refers to the new creation, and v. 17 says it includes a new earth.
True?
Yeah, I think v18 was future tense at that time, but has already happened. Oh yes, the whole earth has been filled with the knowledge of Him already; when He told His 12 apostles to go into all the world and preach the kingdom to every creature.
I believe things as we know it are only temporary. Also, that whole thing about a new heaven/ earth is an enigma; we’re really not given much to go on other than it will be beautiful!