So an alcoholic cannot recieve Jesus and be sealed by the Holy Spirit ,kept forever by God ?
Justified by work vs faith
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Did I ever say alcoholic can not receive Jesus?
I never say that.
What I say is acvording to this verse below drunker not inherit the kingdom of God and I believe this verse not Lie
My brother can you tell the diffrerent between
A Drunker not inherit the kingdom of God and
B Drunker can not repent and recieve Christ
A not = B
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
If they repent It may, but can you show me the verse that they are save?
How about their offspring Eden was plan for them and they offspring wasn't It?
So do you agree that a drunkard can recieve Jesus , be declared Justified , Become a child of God through the new birth , be sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, seated in the heavenlies , baptised into the body of Christ, become a new creation, be Predestined to guareteed future Adoption ( rom 8.23 ) Guaranteed to receive glorification, have the righteousness of Christ, become a Saint, sanctified , be considered already as good as glorified ( rom 8 ) . ?
Your making the case about Adam ,that's your burden of proof . I'm simply saying that WE become a child of God through the new birth. Once a person is Justified they are Guranteed to be Glorified Eph 4.30 , Eph 1.13,14, , rom 8 .23 ,28 , eph 1.5
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So if do agree that a drunkard can recieve Jesus , be declared Justified , Become a child of God through the new birth , be sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, seated in the heavenlies , baptised into the body of Christ, become a new creation, be Predestined to guareteed future Adoption ( rom 8.23 ) Guaranteed to receive glorification, have the righteousness of Christ, become a Saint, sanctified , be considered already as good as glorified ( rom 8 )
Then of course a drunkard who does not recieve Jesus will not be Justified therefore won't be glorified . Jesus paid for his sins and made the way for him . But the only way to glorification is through Jesus which this grace is accessed by believing the Gospel ,not through a works based life of obedience. Jesus obedience, not ours made the way . We simply Obey from the heart the Gospel . Which is believe and be saved . 1 cor 15 .1-4
My brother God drive Adam out from the Garden It is in genesis
Now you say Adam save, where the verse that tell It?
You say when a person become child of God they save, I agree
How about If that person change It mind and do this
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
I am not make this verse and I wish God delete this verse. Because I am a siner.
There is no garden for church age believers . Adam and Eve sinned and NOW we are living in the results of that Fall . God took them out of the garden so that they wouldn't stay in a fallen state forever .
1¶Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
22¶And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
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Finally . //_You say when a person become child of God they save, I agree_/// So ' save ' from what?
All liars will have their part in the lake of fire . No one can be saved without being sealed by the Holy Spirit . Don't try to be saved if your not already saved . Please trust in Jesus and you will be saved too my friend.
When did I say that? Christians are not sinless 100% of the time, but they should sin less. Do you teach sinless perfection? 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
To repent means to change your mind and the new direction of this change of mind is faith in Christ for salvation. (Acts 11:17,18; 20:21) Two sides to the same coin. This change of mind also results in a change of actions, which is the fruit of repentance. (Matthew 3:8; Acts 26:20)
Don't confuse "nominal" Christians with genuine Christians. 1 John 3:9 clearly states that no one who is born of God practices sin.. but you say, those who are born of God practice sin and lose their salvation, which is not what John said. There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers, as John points out. (1 John 2:19)
Believers exercised their free choice upon receiving Christ through faith and continuing to trust in Christ for salvation. To say that genuine Christians don't remain Christians is to deny God's preservation of His saints. (Psalm 37:28; 1 Peter 1:5; Jude 1:1) Those who teach salvation by faith + works typically oppose preservation of the saints.
Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:21) No one who is born of God practices sin.. (1 John 3:9) Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? (1 Corinthians 6:9) And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11) Are you getting the picture?
1 John 3:7 - Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin , to those who eagerly await Him.
My brother, this is how the Lord did for disobey child, No more Eden
Now for the disobey No inherit the kingdom of God
The same verse
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
From hell
I doesn't mean I agree murder etc save from hell
Becouse I believe the Same verse
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Yep, and murder kickek out of inherit the kingdom of heaven
Same verse my brother, I am not make this verse
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.