jesus is not God

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I can see ur adding to my word s I never said in John 10:30 I and my Father are one God the versse clearly says I and my Father are one or haven't u read that verse yet what ur doing is tryna to find anyway to twist or add on to my words and tryna make me look bad but im not worried because others can read my post and see what I really said and I would never say im God in case u didn't know if I say im God im speaking blasphemy the words of the devil because he wants to be God or maybe u think otherwise
 
theBibleisawsome said:
I can see ur adding to my word s I never said in John 10:30 I and my Father are one God the versse clearly says I and my Father are one or haven't u read that verse yet what ur doing is tryna to find anyway to twist or add on to my words and tryna make me look bad but im not worried because others can read my post and see what I really said and I would never say im God in case u didn't know if I say im God im speaking blasphemy the words of the devil because he wants to be God or maybe u think otherwise
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John 10:30 I and my Father are one ( if you say that this verse states that Jesus is God than you say that its written here that they are one God.)

youre words about the scripture:
..because God the Father cMe in the flesh
..God the Father came in the flesh to save us John 1:1-14
God is saying I am Jesus I came in the flesh.. (speaking for God??)

im sorry if I have misunderstood you, but if not than im not sorry.
for the Gospel is sacred to me

I know we are all brothers and Im glad that I can talk with others who show intrest in Heavenly Father and His message.

I can not do this with most people, because they dont care
 
I agree with u its.nice to talk ab out the Bible I also treasur the Bible God is all I have I have nothing else but the Lord and the bros and sis he gave me.but yes im saying God is Jesus truthful answer this for me how come if Jesus isn't the Father when Philip asked him to show us the Father Jesus didn't say my Father is in heaven or my Father is somewhere else right now he said have I been so long time with u and still u don't know me Philip he that sees me has seen the Father indicating the Father is in Him that he is the Father if Jesus wasn't the Father then how come when Phillip asked Him show us the Father he didn't say my Father is in heaven or somewhere else if they were separate from each other like u say he would ve said my Father is somewhere else but he didn't he indicated that He and his Father r the sMe because he answered Philip by saying have I been so long time with u and yet u still don't know me Philip
 
I know the Father and the son are close to each other, but for them to be two separate beings are not My words, but Jesus, and yes they are one in mission and yes Gods holy spirits dwells in Jesus and later in us
for isnt the living soul smply the breath of God?? see genesis when Adam was made, God blew His breath in the nose of man

we can not ignore the other many things Jesus testified of him and the Father and only stare on the verse : if you have seen me, you have seen the father.
we have to read further

Jesus explained many times that he represents the Father and is the image of the Father.

if I read the bible clearly, without doctrine Jesus is more likely to be Adam the father of mankind who came to save his offspring than to be God, (but this is not the subject now).the son of Adam, the son of God. luke 3.38

Let us ask God and tomorrow we talk again
may peace be with you
 
To call Jesus Christ something he never claimed to be, and could not be, is error.

There is one God, the Father. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God.[/QUOTE]



know you are blaspheming by saying that jesus is not God

now all the titles that the father has been given has also been Given to jesus. look at the URL and you will see that jesus is God (the only true GOD)

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truthfull said:
I know the Father and the son are close to each other, but for them to be two separate beings are not My words, but Jesus/QUOTE]

when did jesus EVER say that he was a seperate person from the fathe.

jesus is the image of the invisible God.

did you know that. meaning that if jesus stood in front of a mirror you would see God the father.

God bless
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pentecostal said:
when did jesus EVER say that he was a seperate person from the fathe.

jesus is the image of the invisible God.

did you know that. meaning that if jesus stood in front of a mirror you would see God the father.

God bless
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He's God and therefore the EXACT imprint of the Father's nature, because God can only be one way. So he is the image of the invisible God because they are EXACTLY the same in nature.

This is a bad analogy in that in comes very short, but try and get the idea: it is like a CEO of a business who doesn't show up at a meeting, since he did not go he sends a REPRESENTATIVE who has the same exact message and desire and the same power that his CEO would have.
 
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[QUOTE Many Christians mistakenly associate John 8:58 with Exodus 3:13-14 when they have nothing to do with each other.

No, he did not. Read your examples over again. In not a single one did Jesus say he was God. Many times he claimed to be the Son of God, which he was. It is religion that has made him into God.

There is one God, the Father. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God.[/QUOTE]


no you are the one that is mistaken shroom2. when jesus said before abraham was i am he was not talking about him being prophesied, he was saying that he was the same God that spoke to moses from the burning bush.

WHY do you think that after he said that the jews wanted to stone him. they said that he was blaspheming. the jews understood what he was saying.

and i ask myself why dont YOU understand this. if they did in that time why dont you.
 
HhhLGA89 said:
pentecostal said:
He's God and therefore the EXACT imprint of the Father's nature, because God can only be one way. So he is the image of the invisible God because they are EXACTLY the same in nature.

This is a bad analogy in that in comes very short, but try and get the idea: it is like a CEO of a business who doesn't show up at a meeting, since he did not go he sends a REPRESENTATIVE who has the same exact message and desire and the same power that his CEO would have.
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no you have misunderstood this verse. he is the image of the invisible God not an image but THEEE image.

no its not like the CEO because God did not send no one. he came down fromhis thrown and was manifest in flesh and became one of us and died in the cross.

before the son came to exist on earth he was not in heaven before because that would mean there would be two Gods. God the father is jesus. they are not seperate beings or persons. the trinity is man made theology

remember that
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pentecostal said:
HhhLGA89 said:
no you have misunderstood this verse. he is the image of the invisible God not an image but THEEE image.

no its not like the CEO because God did not send no one. he came down fromhis thrown and was manifest in flesh and became one of us and died in the cross.

before the son came to exist on earth he was not in heaven before because that would mean there would be two Gods. God the father is jesus. they are not seperate beings or persons. the trinity is man made theology

remember that
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No your misunderstanding, yes he is THEE image. He is the only visible, tangible, person that can represent God, because he is God and he has a form.

John 3;17 - For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

^ He did send someone -Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 6:1 - In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple.

This was before Christ came and Isaiah saw him on his throne. God's throne is in heaven. The Father is a Spirit, he does not "sit", so he also does not need a throne; He does not have a human form so he does not have a train either. Who is this Lord then? His representative -the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Yes truthful lets us pray to God today and tomorrow resume our conversation may peace be with u to God Bless u
 
pentecostal said:
know you are blaspheming by saying that jesus is not God
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No, I do not know that, nor will I consider it. Please read these:

1 Cor 8:6http://www.woodsware.com/kjvbible/m...ctx=0&srch=one+god+the+father&match=0&sttmt=2) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

1 Tim 2:5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Rom 5:15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

There are many verses in the bible that call Jesus Christ the Son of God, the Messiah, the savior, the second man. There are no verses in the bible that say Jesus Christ is God.

Only God, the Father, is God.
 
pentecostal said:
no you are the one that is mistaken shroom2. when jesus said before abraham was i am he was not talking about him being prophesied, he was saying that he was the same God that spoke to moses from the burning bush.
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Please show me where he said that.

WHY do you think that after he said that the jews wanted to stone him. they said that he was blaspheming. the jews understood what he was saying.
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They understood that he was claiming to be the promised Messiah. They did not believe him, and wanted to stone him. If they had thought he was claiming to be God they would have simply written him off as a lunatic.

and i ask myself why dont YOU understand this. if they did in that time why dont you.
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I believe your understanding of what they understood is incorrect.
 
Shroom, you deny Jesus is God, and thus deny God.

One cannot deny that Jesus is God and still know God.

1 John 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Luke 12:9 he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God.


2 Peter 2:1-3
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
jimmydiggs said:
Shroom, you deny Jesus is God, and thus deny God.
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Incorrect logic.

One cannot deny that Jesus is God and still know God.
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That is not found in the bible.

1 John 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Luke 12:9 he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God.
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I do not deny or disown Jesus Christ at all. He is the Son of God, the lamb of God, the savior of the world.

2 Peter 2:1-3
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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Yes, you have to watch out for trinitarians. They're oh so sincere and religious, even though their concept of a three-personed God is not found in God's word.
 
I agree that all should watch out with the trinitarians for they're belief is completely human made there teaching is not in the Bible its a devil teaching that they preach because their are not 3 Gods. Their teaching is the devil's words wolves in sheep's clothing in Jesus name im against the trinitarians belief 100%
 
jimmydiggs said:
Shroom, you deny Jesus is God, and thus deny God.

One cannot deny that Jesus is God and still know God.

1 John 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Luke 12:9 he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God.


2 Peter 2:1-3
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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Yes I agree.
 
satan saw that he was losing, when he could not stop Jesus at the cross.
and he knew that christianity would rule the world and he could do nothing about this, so he joined Christianity (matt 24.11) and wants :
we should love Jesus, No even better we should make him God and we should make Mary the mother of God and we should love the diciples,No even better we should make them Saints and Holy
and we should honor them by making graven images. and we must have hierarchy

you and I live and have knowledge of 20 or 30 or 70 years, but Lucifer lived for ages he has the wisdom of ages
and his goal is to seek and find a way to make people willingly dissobey the ten commandments, so that he can proof to God that he was right (Story of Job)

lets see what Jesus said:



“… I came from God!…” (John 8:42)

“… He sent Me!” (John 8:42)

“… I have come down from Heaven, not to do My own will, but the Will of Him Who sent Me!” (John 6:38)

“… As the Father knows Me, I know the Father!” (John 10:15)

“I and the Father are one!” (John 10:30)

" ... that they may be one as we are one (John 17:22)

“The Father is in Me, and I am in the Father!” (John 10:38)

''Remain in me, as I also remain in you. (John 15:4)

“… I declare to the world what I have heard from Him!” (John 8:26)

“I declare what I have seen in the Father’s presence!…” (John 8:38)

“The One who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do what is pleasing to Him!” (John 8:29)

“I can do nothing on My own!” (John 5:30)

“… I love the Father!…” (John 14:31)

“Righteous Father!… I have known You!…” (John 17:25)


“I have come as Light into the world, so that everyone who believes in Me should not remain in the darkness!” (John 12:46)

“I am the Light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in darkness!…” (John 8:12)

“I came that (you) may have life and have it abundantly!” (John 10:10)

“I am the good Shepherd. The good Shepherd lays down His life for the sheep!” (John 10:11)

“My sheep hear my voice; I know them, and they follow Me!” (John 10:27)

“I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life… If you have known Me, you would have known My Father also!…” (John 14:6-7)

“For this reason the Father loves Me because I lay down My life in order to take it up again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have power to take it up again. I have received this command from My Father.” (John 10:17-18)

“… Abide in My love. If you keep My commands, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commands and abide in His love!” (John 15:9-10)


Jesus is crystal clear

if I die and if I will stand for judgement and God sall ask me why I called Jesus the son of God I can show the gospel, but you if God shall ask you why did you made Jesus God what will you anwser.
and if you are uncertain, than why do you teach uncertainty to others
 
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