And the fact is that Israel does exist in spite of every attempt to erase her.
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Your grasp of history is deficient to say the least. Christians are not inherently racist. We know that all are made in God's image. However, some of us object to the followers of a mass murdering paedophile wanting to exterminate the legitimate nation of Israel. Islam is a false gospel and antichrist by nature.
The Muslim Grand Mufti of Jerusalem visited Hitler to discuss plans to prevent the formation of Israel, prevent immigration of Jews and to kill all who lived there. Read the article, if you have a shred of objectivity,
Article from Time:
https://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/
It has nuclear weapons and is protected by the strongest military in the world
Isaiah 66:7-8
“Before she was in labor
she gave birth;
before her pain came upon her
she delivered a son.
Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things?
Shall a land be born in one day?
Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment?
For as soon as Zion was in labor
she brought forth her children.
How is this prophecy of the modern state of Israel when she delivered a son?
who has heard such a thing?
who has seen such things?
We all know who the son is,but for the sake of the argument lets say what this prophecy is speaking of the modern day Israel.
If you believe that the modern state of Israel was "born" in one day then you will also have to believe that the modern state of Israel is the son?!
And if you still believe,does the modern state of Israel produce the fruits of the olive tree?Do they produce good fruits?
Lets be real,this verse doesn't fit the modern state of Israel because the son delivered is Jesus and if you read just a tiny bit farther
it reveals plainly that the delivered son is being symbolically compared to a "land" and a "nation" being born in one day.
How many of you were "born" again and made into a Holy nation?
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” -Matthew 11:28
Rest in the nation of Israel,under the olive tree.
Psalm 127:1
Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
“Before she was in labor
she gave birth;
before her pain came upon her
she delivered a son.
Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things?
Shall a land be born in one day?
Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment?
For as soon as Zion was in labor
she brought forth her children.
How is this prophecy of the modern state of Israel when she delivered a son?
who has heard such a thing?
who has seen such things?
We all know who the son is,but for the sake of the argument lets say what this prophecy is speaking of the modern day Israel.
If you believe that the modern state of Israel was "born" in one day then you will also have to believe that the modern state of Israel is the son?!
And if you still believe,does the modern state of Israel produce the fruits of the olive tree?Do they produce good fruits?
Lets be real,this verse doesn't fit the modern state of Israel because the son delivered is Jesus and if you read just a tiny bit farther
it reveals plainly that the delivered son is being symbolically compared to a "land" and a "nation" being born in one day.
How many of you were "born" again and made into a Holy nation?
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” -Matthew 11:28
Rest in the nation of Israel,under the olive tree.
Psalm 127:1
Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
While the sun shines and the moon orbits the earth, God's covenant with literal Israel remains. Israel exists according to God's will. Getteth over itteth. (Jeremiah 31:35 & 36)
There are not 2 covenants or 2 nations. God made a new covenant with Israel creating one new nation
By your interpretation, every Jew is automatically saved. I don't agree.
This is why these people against Jews are being fatalists without realizing it - they are fighting against God, who will get His way when all is said and done. I don't know why they even bother trying. They won't get their wish for Jewish annihilation. All their ungodly efforts will just destroy THEM.
Yes.
In spite of systematic persecution from kingdoms and governments, the Roman Empire, the Roman Church, Islam, and Jews the beloved of God remains in the earth: the Body of Christ.
This is why these people against Jews are being fatalists without realizing it - they are fighting against God, who will get His way when all is said and done. I don't know why they even bother trying. They won't get their wish for Jewish annihilation. All their ungodly efforts will just destroy THEM.
Why do you hate Jesus' mother Mary?
Now elect Israel the remnant has transitioned from its OT Idenity with OT National Israel and has been confirmed under the NT Covenant made to Israel Jer 31, confirmed in and by Christ the establisher of the NT Covenant Heb 8:13
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. This has been how the Israel Kingdom has been restored, through the Blood of Christ Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
And gentiles are partakers 1 Cor 11:25
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
Corinth was a gentile church! 14
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. This has been how the Israel Kingdom has been restored, through the Blood of Christ Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
And gentiles are partakers 1 Cor 11:25
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
Corinth was a gentile church! 14
Amen.
There has always been THE faithful from the OT to the NT.
No one was ever saved via their ethnic heritage, Paul makes that very clear.
John 1:13
If the modern state of Israel is this nation being born in a day then by this scripture that means modern Israel is the son.
The verse refers to the son as a land and a nation.
ThereRoseaLamb believes that the valley of dry bones refers to the modern state of Israel.When Ezekiel is given the vision and is asked what he sees he says he sees bones that are very dry.
That is a reference that these bones need the water of repentance.
Ezekiel 37:4-10
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord.
Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
If anyone believes that Isaiah 66:7-8 and Ezekiel 37:4-10 is a prophecy of modern day Israel,please explain how Israel is the son.
and in the valley of dry bones verses,how is the modern day Israel made "flesh" and live without repentance?
How is the breath put into them that they may live and made into a great army?
The breath is the Holy Spirit.Does the modern state of Israel rule through the Holy Spirit?
If you want to make the claim that the nation of the modern state of Israel that was supposedly built in a day in May 14th 1948
Do they show the fruits of the Holy Spirit?Not only that,If you believe that in May 14 1948 was prophecy fulfilled then that means that you believe that the modern state of Israel is the son.If the state of Israel is the son then look at the fruits.
To me it's like you're jamming a piece of a puzzle where it doesn't fit.I know that someone will say "oh,Israel will be made flesh later in revelation"
Ok,but that's not what scripture says.You're skipping stages of prophecy to fit your narrative.Israel isn't made flesh in one day and live before repentance.
The exceeding great army are those with the armor of God.The true Israel.That's why the son is referred to a land,and a nation.
Jesus really does bring all things unto himself.Find rest in the land/nation of Israel.That rest is found in Jesus.
Scripture says that only a remnant will be saved.What was the inheritance of the remnant Levites?God was their inheritance.See
God kept that promise through the Holy Spirit.
Before God could keep His promises to physical Israel, there had to be a restoration of the nation. Do you not know that God's promise to Abraham included land? In your view, all Christians should migrate to Israel. Do you not know that the book of Revelation is meaningless if Israel does not physically exist? Replacement theology may have made sense to some before 1948. However, Spurgeon believed that Jews should return to Israel. He was not alone, of course. As far back as the 17th century, some saw the restoration foretold in God's word. That was somewhat before Derby.
Does it matter? Yes. Why would believers pray for Israel and the Jews if they do not believe that God has a purpose for Israel? So the devil drives a wedge between believers. Israel survives and prospers in spite of 8 million Jews being surrounded by 400 million hostile Muslims. That's a miracle in itself.
A lot of Christians visit Israel to experience the place where Lord Jesus lived and ministered. Muslims seek to erase Jews and replace them with Muslims. Bethlehem is Muslim controlled and Christians are being driven out. Now that is the real replacement. Islam is replacing Christianity all over the world, including America.
Israel is a hindrance to that spread. There is a saying in the Middle East, "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people." Iran's Muslims call Israel the Little Satan and America the Great Satan. Jihad has already come to America and much of the non-Muslim world. While Israel exists, Muslims are being shown that their pathetic god is no match for the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If Israel falls (it won't), Muslims will be emboldened to take on the West. It's already invaded Europe and the UK. Muslim terror groups have stashed weapons in various places so that attacks can be launched like October 7th. Authorities have discovered some weapons. How many have not been found? Christians need to know that we are at war. The battle is fundamentally spiritual but the war is also kinetic. Praying for Israel and against Islam all over the world is self defence for believers.
The strongest military in the world is busy arming Israel's enemies. I would not trust the current administration to honour any of its military commitments. Mr Trump threatens a sovereign nation that is a member of NATO. Mr Trump changes more often than Melbourne weather. He has zero understanding of the Middle East. Very few American leaders have in the past either. The disasters of Libya, Iraq x 2 and Afghanistan demonstrate that. OK, Afghanistan is not Middle East, but it is totalitarian Islam like most of the Middle East.
Like as if God didn't just see you falsely accuse me. You really don't think He witnessed that? Okay.....
How does it feel? I did exactly to you what you an some others do to me and others constantly. It's part of your spiritual DNA. You don't venerate [x], therefore you hate [x].
I didn't even talk about Mary. But I get it. Talk about anything but what is being discussed so you don't have to address your hate for the Jews before God. It's not like He will unsee that but okay....
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