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Pop Christianity. Completely unbiblical. God rebuked Israel's/Judah's kings for forming alliances with foreign powers and relying on their military might.


It is not. God promised to return them to the land where they wouldn't be uprooted again. He's begun to make that happen. They aren't a theocracy as they were in Bible times.
 
You have been deceived, all this is carnal, God has been protecting and blessing usa for that matter, russia and so on, all you talking about is carnal stuff. There is no more Spirituality in israel over there as it is in the african jungles.
You must be carnal if you can't discern miracles and God's Providence.
 
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I suppose so....in your view. In mine as a watchmen prophecy is a more sure word.
Now what makes your authority above any to use the term worthless in spiritual matters. Are all your conclusions based on a spiritual level in which only the privilege gifted elites can see?
Remarkable that Jesus said ...if i tell you of Earthly things and you do not understand how much more can you understand the spiritual.
Not my view, Gods view, He going to do the burning up lol
 
No more than in any other existing national territory, and you must be the same as you say of me if you cant see that.
OK show me documentaries of miracles where God's Almightiness is evident. And I'm not saying there's not miracles elsewheere, of course there are. I'm talking about God's clear hand in defending a country as shown in the doc I posted.
 
OK show me documentaries of miracles where God's Almightiness is evident. And I'm not saying there's not miracles elsewheere, of course there are. I'm talking about God's clear hand in defending a country as shown in the doc I posted.
I dont need to show you nothing, if you dont know that its true, you dont understand God and Providence. I dont need no documents
 
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OK show me documentaries of miracles where God's Almightiness is evident. And I'm not saying there's not miracles elsewheere, of course there are. I'm talking about God's clear hand in defending a country as shown in the doc I posted.

IMO you're being quite foolish to be following signs and "miracles"

And he does great signs, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those signs which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. Revelation 13:13-14
 
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IMO you're being quite foolish to be following signs and "miracles"

And he does great signs, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those signs which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. Revelation 13:13-14
Calling someone foolish for citing awesome miracles from God, esp bc they have to do with defending Israel, is so immature or even beyond. What I do care about is what GOD thinks.
 
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Calling someone foolish for citing awesome miracles from God, esp bc they have to do with defending Israel, is so immature or even beyond. What I do care about is what GOD thinks.

I'm sure there will be many Christians who will worship the image of the beast and accept its mark because they believed in "miracles" they thought were from God.
 
NO, rather those who are in Jesus are grafted into the spiritual Israel, because there is no Jew or Greek in the church; we are ALL one in Christ.

Sure we call them today, Israelis (those who have citizenship in the country of Israel = nationality), but they are no longer the chosen.

If you disagree, you’re disagreeing with God’s word. Read!
I have read Romans 9, 10 and 11, and the book of Revelation. God still has a purpose for Israel and the nation exists because of God's purpose. The Old Testament is full of references to the restoration of Israel as a nation.

I don't know why people keep on about the issue of salvation. That has never been the the subject. Who here claims that Jews are saved because they are Jews? John Hagee, as far as I know, does not frequent this forum. If he does, he's not saying anything about the Jews being saved because they are Jews.
 
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The Old Testament is full of references to the restoration of Israel as a nation.

Yes, and spiritual eyes see that it will be restored as an incorruptible spiritual nation at the resurrection. Carnal eyes are blind to this truth and consequently focus on worldly things
 
Yes, and spiritual eyes see that it will be restored as an incorruptible spiritual nation at the resurrection. Carnal eyes are blind to this truth and consequently focus on worldly things

Nah, all you have to do is read the Bible to know that God said He would re-gather the Jews from all over the earth where He scattered them back to their homeland. In 48 was the start of God's prophetic time clock. He keeps His promises and He made a covenant with Himself that He will fulfill to the Jews.
 
Nah, all you have to do is read the Bible to know that God said He would re-gather the Jews from all over the earth where He scattered them back to their homeland.

How is the re-gathering not fulfilled at the resurrection? Then all Israel will be restored as one holy nation in the land as was prophesied. The current worldly nation of Israel is not all Israel, so it can't be the fulfillment of that regathering. And Jesus doesn't need a worldly nation when he returns to the land with his holy nation, whom he gathers together from every part of heaven and earth.
 
Scholars have applied engineering financing towards the Temple we read about in the Bible including the altars, candlesticks, offering altars, AoC, Priestly Garments, and everything mentioned and discovered it would take roughly around 3 to 5 trillion dollars to replica everything back to specific details and instructions from God.

It was also reported that everything including the Temple blocks to reconstruct the entire Gentile Court to the Inner Court and the Holy of Holies with all accessories completely have been recreated and every single piece and block are just currently sitting ready to be assembled together so the 3rd Temple to be ready for operation.

Now when we compare every Nation and the financing available to them there's not a single Nation capable of having 1 trillion dollars at their immediate disposal.

So how does Israel have a completed 3rd Temple that would require somewhere around 3 to 5 trillion dollars to recreate when no other Nation has at least 1 trillion dollars at its immediate disposal?

God is how!

God has given Israel the money to complete the prophecy required for the antichrist to proclaim himself to be God is how.
 
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Dont need none, have the scriptures, but that's Spiritual, and I have shared scripture. Are those documents enough for you ?
By docs I meant documentaries, which I should have caught. That being said, the documentary I was referencing is this:

Btw, there are Arabs who have attested to some of these acts of God, seeing a huge 'Father Abraham' shaking his head telling them no, on the verge of them killing a cornered squad of Israelis. They wouldn't dare lie about that, lol.
 
I'm sure there will be many Christians who will worship the image of the beast and accept its mark because they believed in "miracles" they thought were from God.
If they're 'Christians' who fell for the beast, they were lukewarm, and certainly not Spiritual if they accept the mark knowing or not knowing they will be doomed. Actually, true Christians won't be around to dispel the beast when he 'comes out' we will have been called up by Christ.
 
These are words of wisdom that were posted by this member in another thread.
Had to post it here, it is so profound but so true....amen.

posthuman said:
unbelieving, idolatrous Israel is exactly the Israel of the Scripture - - and we should be thankful, because if not for their falling, would Salvation have come to us?

but if they are not still His people, if He would forsake them, how could we ever have a Salvation that is sure? how could you ever trust to hold you, a God who would drop you like a stone the moment you falter?

it is unworthy sinners, not the righteous, for which Christ came and gave Himself :love:
 
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