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At least I do not idolize a secular nation and defend its sins and pretend like God wants them to starve people en masse.
You claim to be saved and I won't argue with that. However, you lack any kind of discernment when it comes to Israel. Why are you so hostile? Even apart from the spiritual aspect, you treat Israel as some kind of pariah state, as if she has no right to exist and no right to defend herself. You parrot Hamas, Iranian and Qatari lies as if they were facts.

Who has defended Israel's sins? Hint: self defence is not a sin. Even worldly media has retracted some of its lies. Of course, the retractions are minuscule compared to the trumpeted headlines.

You are what Islam calls a useful idiot, a phrase originally used of democratic leaders who supported the communist take over of Russia. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Repeating lies promoted by the followers of a mass murdering paedophile does not help you make your case.
 
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You claim to be saved and I won't argue with that. However, you lack any kind of discernment when it comes to Israel. Why are you so hostile? Even apart from the spiritual aspect, you treat Israel as some kind of pariah state, as if she has no right to exist and no right to defend herself. You parrot Hamas, Iranian and Qatari lies as if they were facts.

Who has defended Israel's sins? Hint: self defence is not a sin. Even worldly media has retracted some of its lies. Of course, the retractions are minuscule compared to the trumpeted headlines.

You are what Islam calls a useful idiot, a phrase originally used of democratic leaders who supported the communist take over of Russia. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Repeating lies promoted by the followers of a mass murdering paedophile does not help you make your case.

Have you ever read anything by Dr. Norman Finklestein, the son of holocaust survivors, come back when you do.

Until then all you have is personal accusations of which I could care less. He tells the truth based on real meticulous primary source analysis, you do not.
 
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A blessing they have been murdered, well here we have the New Churchianity.

Evil is now good.
Silly comment. Israel is not murdering children. That's the other crowd. The one utterly committed to destroying Israel. Maybe you should stand on your head, because your perspective is 180 degrees out of wack.

War is hell. People die. It's always been that way. Israel did not start the war. Have you forgotten that?
 
Silly comment. Israel is not murdering children. That's the other crowd. The one utterly committed to destroying Israel. Maybe you should stand on your head, because your perspective is 180 degrees out of wack.

War is hell. People die. It's always been that way. Israel did not start the war. Have you forgotten that?

It is a genocide. The government of Israel has announced it several times.
 
Have you ever read anything by Dr. Norman Finklestein, the son of holocaust survivors, come back when you do.

Until then all you have is personal accusations of which I could care less. He tells the truth based on real meticulous primary source analysis, you do not.
Does Finklestein live in Gaza? Has he seen first hand what is going on? Neither have I. But i have seen the doctored photos that Hamas used to deceive most of the world. I have seen the video of Hamas fighters robbing aid truck. I do know that the UN refuses to work with Israel to deliver aid, which sits in the Gaza sun as a result.

I know there are divisions in Israeli society. Some would foolishly capitulate to Hamas. All that will do is enable Hamas to strike again. It would likely be more successful as they know a lot more about the IDF and how to deal with them.

No matter what you say, this war was started by Hamas. Gazans support Hamas 100%. They could have had a free, self governing state. Israel even removed forcibly Jewish settlers. The only thing most Gazans will accept is the removal of the Jewish state. That may change as Hamas proves to be incapable of defeating Israel.

The primary source for my attitude to Israel is God's word.
 
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Does Finklestein live in Gaza? Has he seen first hand what is going on? Neither have I. But i have seen the doctored photos that Hamas used to deceive most of the world. I have seen the video of Hamas fighters robbing aid truck. I do know that the UN refuses to work with Israel to deliver aid, which sits in the Gaza sun as a result.

I know there are divisions in Israeli society. Some would foolishly capitulate to Hamas. All that will do is enable Hamas to strike again. It would likely be more successful as they know a lot more about the IDF and how to deal with them.

No matter what you say, this war was started by Hamas. Gazans support Hamas 100%. They could have had a free, self governing state. Israel even removed forcibly Jewish settlers. The only thing most Gazans will accept is the removal of the Jewish state. That may change as Hamas proves to be incapable of defeating Israel.

The primary source for my attitude to Israel is God's word.

I know reality is tough, always find a way to keep the illusion.
 
Please provide a quote from a government source that backs your claim.

It is always best to do your own research with real sources not the ones being bank rolled.
But I have posted several times on various threads .. the thing is people cannot have their illusion shattered so they cannot watch them.
 
Someone posted a video earlier of some influencer staing that those who oppose their views on Israel are committing blasphemy. Notice that you got a thumbs down from someone for asking a simple question. So yes, a cult-like mindset has appeared that conflates worldly things with spiritual things and considers this eschatological issue salvational.
And the claim of blasphemy shows that it is idolatry at least some of these cultists are practicing. Only the use of God's name in vain is blasphemy - not the modern state of Israel's name, or Jews, or anything similar of man or works of men.
 
The core of what issue? Obviously there were no Jews at that time. But God's promise was also to Abraham's offspring as you well know. You also know that Abraham's offspring includes the Jews. There is no issue apart from the one you have confected.
What did he confect???

He is simply asking you to define what is a Jew.

It is a simple question that you and your ilk will not answer. I can understand why but it is rather dishonest of you to not at least address the question.

You remind me of the Democrats who refuse to define what is a woman.
 
You remind me of the Democrats who refuse to define what is a woman.
This here. You tell them by their fruits. The theology being pushed requires dishonesty or it falls apart. The dishonesty ultimately results in genocide, murder, pedophilia and all manner of abominations (or the support thereof). It is clearly not of God, and I believe in recent times, God is exposing it to all for what it has always been.
 
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This here. You tell them by their fruits. The theology being pushed requires dishonesty or it falls apart. The dishonesty ultimately results in genocide, murder, pedophilia and all manner of abominations (or the support thereof). It is clearly not of God, and I believe in recent times, God is exposing it to all for what it has always been.

Sadly, they will come after the "real believers" in due time if people do not wake up.
First they will establish Greater Israel using foreign money to execute the wars and then they will turn on those who protected them.
We can see it already, one cannot be a Christian unless they support Israel.
 
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This here. You tell them by their fruits. The theology being pushed requires dishonesty or it falls apart. The dishonesty ultimately results in genocide, murder, pedophilia and all manner of abominations (or the support thereof). It is clearly not of God, and I believe in recent times, God is exposing it to all for what it has always been.

I also want to say a big AMEN!!

The reasoning on this thread is plainly horrific, the denial and continual deflection is disgusting.
The IDF itself, the government admits all of it.
Not one of them should ever raise a voice against abortion EVER, they absolutely no moral basis from which to do so.
 
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Israel survives against all odds with the Almighty hand/favor of God🙏✝✡🙌🙌🙌

Someone keeps asking 'what is a Jew'...and I'll ask 'who is God protecting in Israel to this day?'
What is the true definition of a Jew?
A Jew is one who practices the Jewish religion, Judaism. This includes both converts and those who have been members of the Jewish religion since birth. A Jew is one who is a direct descendant of the ancient Israelite ethnic group, and therefore is a member of the Jewish people.
 
Nonsensical dispensationalism.

Judaism rejects Christ, and one cannot be a true "Jew" unless one knows the Lord Jesus Christ.
God promised to bless all nations through the seed of Abraham (Christ).
There is no Biblical blessing of today's nation of Israel apart from Christ.
 

Israel survives against all odds with the Almighty hand/favor of God🙏✝✡🙌🙌🙌

Someone keeps asking 'what is a Jew'...and I'll ask 'who is God protecting in Israel to this day?'
What is the true definition of a Jew?
A Jew is one who practices the Jewish religion, Judaism. This includes both converts and those who have been members of the Jewish religion since birth. A Jew is one who is a direct descendant of the ancient Israelite ethnic group, and therefore is a member of the Jewish people.
The nation of Israel came into existence in 1948.
This would have never happened If God had not intervened in world affairs after WW2.
Israel would have never survived the first year if God had not protected them from those who had the superior arms and man power.
This has been true for 77 years now.
Those who believe this is not God's chosen nation, who will accept the Messiah when He comes again, are just---I don't know what to call them.
 
I see you changed the truth of my post to suite your opinion just as you do all truth.

Oh really, so God protects non-Christians, those who still under wrath? Is that in scripture?

Do you accept and believe there is a NEW Covenant?
 
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