FE'ers are a prime example.I'm not sure that we're always aware when cognitive dissonance comes into play.
I'm out.
Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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We've all seen pictures of clouds behind the Sun.
Well; the thing is: Lockheed's U2 can fly as high as 70,000 feet and its SR
71 Blackbird can fly as high as 85,000 feet.
The highest clouds range from 20,000 feet to 60,000 feet. So if the Sun
were to be circling in the Earth's atmosphere instead of out in space, then
spy planes would have to be careful not to smash into it.
* Not all clouds are equally dense, viz: the Sun's powerful light can
easily penetrate wispy clouds like nothing is there.
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We've all seen pictures of clouds behind the Sun.
Well; the thing is: Lockheed's U2 can fly as high as 70,000 feet and its SR
71 Blackbird can fly as high as 85,000 feet.
The highest clouds range from 20,000 feet to 60,000 feet. So if the Sun
were to be circling in the Earth's atmosphere instead of out in space, then
spy planes would have to be careful not to smash into it.
* Not all clouds are equally dense, viz: the Sun's powerful light can
easily penetrate wispy clouds like nothing is there.
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The so-called “South Pole” is simply an arbitrary point along the Antarctic ice marked with a red and white barbershop pole topped with a metal ball-Earth. This ceremonial South Pole is admittedly and provably NOT the actual South Pole, however, because the actual South Pole could be demonstrably confirmed with the aid of a compass showing North to be 360 degrees around the observer. Since this feat has never been achieved, the model remains pure theory, along with the establishment’s excuse that the geomagnetic poles supposedly constantly move around making verification of their claims impossible.
Ring magnets of the kind found in loudspeakers have a central North pole with the opposite “South” pole actually being all points along the outer circumference. This perfectly demonstrates the magnetism of our flat Earth, whereas the alleged source of magnetism in the ball-Earth model is emitted from a hypothetical molten magnetic core in the center of the ball which they claim conveniently causes both poles to constantly move thus evading independent verification at their two “ceremonial poles.” In reality the deepest drilling operation in history, the Russian Kola Ultradeep, managed to get only 8 miles down, so the entire ball-Earth model taught in schools showing a crust, outer-mantle, inner-mantle, outer-core and inner-core layers are all purely speculation as we have never penetrated through beyond the crust.
A fixed amount of kinetic energy is involved. An object in motion relative to it's immediate environment. Velocity, not acceleration.
An object under influence of gravity would be accelerating. (Orbit is considered acceleration.)
Please help me have an epiphany moment, Gary. It's been a far too long time since the last one.
Gravity seems to effectively act in every direction whenever matter and mass is present. It will act upwards for you if you find a massive object and put it on your head...
The mariner’s compass is an impossible and non-sensical instrument for use on a ball-Earth. It simultaneously points North and South over a flat surface, yet claims to be pin-pointing two constantly moving geomagnetic poles at opposite ends of a spinning sphere originating from a hypothetical molten metal core. If compass needles were actually drawn to the North pole of a globe, the opposing “South” needle would actually be pointing up and off into outer-space.
FE peeps are not ambitious enough to actually go to any point of the edge and document it with videos, photos and written journals.
Yes, they seem to rely on the magical transporter. Problem with that is that the transporter is on the starship Enterprise and the FE peeps don't believe in space travel either. They blame NASA when in reality the problem lies with the Federation of Planets, all of which are flat by the way.
"Beam me up, Scottie."
There are no fixed “East” or “West” points just as there is no fixed “South.” The North central Pole is the only proven fixed point on our flat Earth, with South being all straight lines outwards from the pole, East and West being concentric circles at constant right angles 90 degrees from the pole. A westerly circumnavigation of Earth is thus going around with Polaris continually on your right, while an easterly circumnavigation is going around with Polaris always at your left.
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The surface speed of the Earth's surface at the equator is roughly 1,040
mph, yet centrifugal force doesn't throw its oceans off into space.
Were I to spin a soccer ball so that the surface speed at its equator is 1,040
mph, all water on its surface will be thrown off except for maybe a small
mount at the poles of its axis.
FAQ: Why does water stay on the Earth's surface but not on the soccer ball's
surface?
REPLY: Gravity is directly proportional to mass.
The Earth's mass, in pounds, is 1.31668×10 to the 25th power, which, as it
turns out, is sufficient mass to generate a gravity strong enough to prevent
centrifugal force from throwing water off its surface. Whereas the soccer
ball's mass is so insignificant in comparison that it cannot generate sufficient
gravity to hold water on its surface.
* A regulation soccer ball's diameter is roughly 27 inches, viz: .4444 feet,
which, when multiplied by pi yields a circumference 1.3963 feet. So we'd
have to roll the ball 3,781.5 times for its equator to measure out one mile.
Now multiply that by 1,040 and we get 3,932,679.2 rotations in 24 hours to
equal the Earth's surface speed @ one rotation in 24 hours. That's quite a
gear ratio.
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The surface speed of the Earth's surface at the equator is roughly 1,040
mph, yet centrifugal force doesn't throw its oceans off into space.
Were I to spin a soccer ball so that the surface speed at its equator is 1,040
mph, all water on its surface will be thrown off except for maybe a small
mount at the poles of its axis.
FAQ: Why does water stay on the Earth's surface but not on the soccer ball's
surface?
REPLY: Gravity is directly proportional to mass.
The Earth's mass, in pounds, is 1.31668×10 to the 25th power, which, as it
turns out, is sufficient mass to generate a gravity strong enough to prevent
centrifugal force from throwing water off its surface. Whereas the soccer
ball's mass is so insignificant in comparison that it cannot generate sufficient
gravity to hold water on its surface.
* A regulation soccer ball's diameter is roughly 27 inches, viz: .4444 feet,
which, when multiplied by pi yields a circumference 1.3963 feet. So we'd
have to roll the ball 3,781.5 times for its equator to measure out one mile.
Now multiply that by 1,040 and we get 3,932,679.2 rotations in 24 hours to
equal the Earth's surface speed @ one rotation in 24 hours. That's quite a
gear ratio.
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Magellan and others’ East/West circumnavigations of Earth are often quoted as proof of the ball model. In actual fact, however, sailing or flying at rights angles to the North pole and eventually returning to one’s original location is no more difficult or mysterious than doing so on a globe. Just as an architect’s compass can place its center-point on a flat piece of paper and trace a circle either way around the “pole,” so can a ship or plane circumnavigate a flat-Earth.
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According to Flat science, the Sun doesn't orbit the Earth like a hula hoop
but instead circles aloft like a halo.
Flat science also says the Sun isn't above the Earth's atmosphere, rather it
cohabits the atmosphere right along with the clouds.
Now, the thing is: the atmosphere is a material substance; which means it
rubs with objects that fly thru it and friction causes objects to lose speed
unless they're powered.
So, the question is: If the Sun has been flying around in the atmosphere
above the Earth for thousands and thousands of years; then why hasn't
friction with the air caused it to slow down and/or bring it to a halt? Is there
some sort of force up there in the sky pushing the Sun and regulating its
motion? A dark energy perhaps? A high altitude cyclonic wind; a mysterious
jet stream?
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According to Flat science, the Sun doesn't orbit the Earth like a hula hoop
but instead circles aloft like a halo.
Flat science also says the Sun isn't above the Earth's atmosphere, rather it
cohabits the atmosphere right along with the clouds.
Now, the thing is: the atmosphere is a material substance; which means it
rubs with objects that fly thru it and friction causes objects to lose speed
unless they're powered.
So, the question is: If the Sun has been flying around in the atmosphere
above the Earth for thousands and thousands of years; then why hasn't
friction with the air caused it to slow down and/or bring it to a halt? Is there
some sort of force up there in the sky pushing the Sun and regulating its
motion? A dark energy perhaps? A high altitude cyclonic wind; a mysterious
jet stream?
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Well - if you will seriously focus your attention on this video I have posted multiple times in this thread already and really listen to what is being said - and think about how it pertains to reality - you just might could possibly achieve an epiphany moment...Please help me have an epiphany moment, Gary. It's been a far too long time since the last one.
A related FE conundrum would be-
If the sun is a small body contained in Earth's atmosphere, how do it's rays reach other planets?
We observe the sun's light illuminating Venus even without a telescope.
A FIFA-regulated ball is usually 26 to 27 inches in diameter.