Is Obedience Necessary for Salvation?
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Holy means set apart. Those who are born of the Spirit are already set apart from the lost and unsaved. It's not about trying to be good. It's about being who you are in Christ.
100 % agree.
Yep set apart from flesh to the spirit though I am still in the learning process, My spirit battening my flesh
We will always battle the flesh since we live in the flesh. Our flesh is in constant battle with our spirit. Thank God we are already covered by His Blood and that battle does not threaten our position in Christ.
You don't have to try to be good or holy when walking in the Spirit. If you are truly walking in the Spirit then you don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
You can't truly walk in the Spirit and not be born again?
Trying to be good and just being "religious" is not the same as walking in the Spirit. That is self-righteousness and also needs to be repented of before you can truly walk in the Spirit.
Before we can walk in the Spirit, we must sincerely repent of the things that are keeping us in the flesh and not the spirit whether it be self-will, self-righteousness, unbelief, sin etc. Whatever that it is not of the Spirit is of the flesh.
So you've never heard of anyone talking "disrespectfully of the dead?"
Not saying that is the goal of any here, but it can be done. I for one have heard it done.
In order to actually disrespect someone, you have to have access to them in some way. They have to know you are attempting to disrespect them and then accept it as disrespect.
Talking about someone who is dead or someone whom you don't know is not an act of disrespect. You are just flapping your gums.
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I don't agree with the Catholics, but what on earth, is the point of this post. Really that's what is shocking to me.
So some people got misled and worshipped Mary....That's not Mary's fault.... It's their own fault for following such a messed up belief over the scripture.
What???....tell that to the Lord. He knows when someone is being disrespected....dead or alive.
I for one am not about to disrespect Mary or any other of God's children.
That is foolishness.
Kindly provide a passage of Scripture where Jesus tells us He knows when someone is being disrespected.. even if they are dead. I don't recall reading any passage of Scripture that suggests anything of the sort. I do recall the Lord saying, "let the dead bury the dead".
You are not even capable of showing disrespect to Mary. You don't even know her and she is dead. How do you imagine you can disrespect her? Please provide an example of disrespecting Mary.
Yes.
and, you can be a disciple of Christ and hear this......."Depart from me, i never knew you".
This is someone who is religious, but not born again.
They know all about Christ, but they are not joined to God, spiritually.
The point of the post, is to expose.
Real Christianity is all about REVELATION and Truth.
This is Light.
Real Christians are "children of the Light".
And exactly who are we in Christ? We are born again of the Spirit through Christ. If we get in the flesh, then we will repent and turn toward God through our advocate... because of who we are in Christ.
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Use some commonsense. This is total foolishness. Do you think God wants us disrespecting any of his children alive or dead. I mean really....2 + 2 and such.
And what happens to all the water baptized who keep the commandments as much as they can, and they eventually die?
Jesus will say to these commandment keepers....."Depart from me, i never knew you".
Yet, just like you, they made a great effort to be concerned about the commandments.
They went to hell.
"depart from me, i never knew you".
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Agreed....but what is the evidence of walking in the Spirit? Are we not aligned with God while walking in the Spirit?