Is Obedience Necessary for Salvation?

[HisKid]

repentance
[rəˈpentəns]

NOUN

1. the action of repenting; sincere regret or remorse.
   "each person who turns to God in genuine repentance and faith will be saved"
   
   
   
   
   
   

Webster is great, but what is the biblical meaning?

Repent – The Definition In Greek

The Greek word for repent is μετάνοια, said metanoia. The closest literal English meaning of the word is to have a change of mind, but might be better said, “to think differently afterwards” or “changing your mind after being with,” according to the HELPS word study and Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance.

To repent means to be convinced of another way, to change your mind or convictions. And in response to be convinced in your mind and heart, changing your actions. Repentance means turning from going your own way to going God’s way.

 

[Jackson123]

You will sin because you are a sinner. It doesn't even have to be something as extreme as murder. Even telling a "little white lie" is sin. Anything that is not PERFECT is sin. You will never be perfect as long as you are in this human tent. However, the child of God, someone who is born again, is covered by THE BLOOD OF JESUS.

Why the verse say murder not inherit?
Yes I am sining every day that is why I have to repent every day

 

[HisKid]

Why the verse say murder not inherit?
Yes I am sining every day that is why I have to repent every day

The verse is referring to sinners who are unrepentant, which believers are not.
You sin every day because you are a sinner. If you are born again, you have already repented. If and when you sin, there is a God who covers you.
New International Version Par ▾
1My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

[Jackson123]

The verse is referring to sinners who are unrepentant, which believers are not.
You sin every day because you are a sinner. If you are born again, you have already repented. If and when you sin, there is a God who covers you.
New International Version Par ▾
1My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Seem to me unbeliever not inherit even he is not murder the verse doesn’t say only for nonbeliever

 

[HisKid]

Seem to me unbeliever not inherit even he is not murder the verse doesn’t say only for nonbeliever

What is your mission here? What do you want me to learn from you?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Webster is great, but what is the biblical meaning?

Repent – The Definition In Greek

The Greek word for repent is μετάνοια, said metanoia. The closest literal English meaning of the word is to have a change of mind, but might be better said, “to think differently afterwards” or “changing your mind after being with,” according to the HELPS word study and Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance.

To repent means to be convinced of another way, to change your mind or convictions. And in response to be convinced in your mind and heart, changing your actions. Repentance means turning from going your own way to going God’s way.

Amen

So if one agrees murder is a sin and yet falls in that area. How can they repent. They already agree it is sin. You can’t repent again
people think it means something it does not. It’s sad

 

[1ofthem]

Webster is great, but what is the biblical meaning?

Repent – The Definition In Greek

The Greek word for repent is μετάνοια, said metanoia. The closest literal English meaning of the word is to have a change of mind, but might be better said, “to think differently afterwards” or “changing your mind after being with,” according to the HELPS word study and Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance.

To repent means to be convinced of another way, to change your mind or convictions. And in response to be convinced in your mind and heart, changing your actions. Repentance means turning from going your own way to going God’s way.

Yeah, and a true story of repentance in the scripture is the prodigal son.

He was a son, but left his father and went on his own way. He wound up in the hog pen starving.

What did he have to do? He had to change his mind and turn and go back home. This is true repentance a change of the will followed by appropriate action.

The axe is laid to the root of the trees... repent and bring forth fruit meet for repentance.

There is no true repentance without a change of life as a result.

The Greek word for repentance means to change your mind and the Hebrew word means to turn or turn back.

True repentance means changing our will and submitting to the will of God and turning to Him.

 

[HisKid]

Yeah, and a true story of repentance in the scripture is the prodigal son.

He was a son, but left his father and went on his own way. He wound up in the hog pen starving.

What did he have to do? He had to change his mind and turn and go back home. This is true repentance a change of the will followed by appropriate action.

The axe is laid to the root of the trees... repent and bring forth fruit meet for repentance.

There is no true repentance without a change of life as a result.

The Greek word for repentance means to change your mind and the Hebrew word means to turn or turn back.

True repentance means changing our will and submitting to the will of God and turning to Him.

Amen

 

[Jackson123]

What is your mission here? What do you want me to learn from you?

My brother I am still leant too but I believe change the Word is not apropiate I just learn to believe the Word as it is

 

[HisKid]

My brother I am still leant too but I believe change the Word is not apropiate I just learn to believe the Word as it is

I haven't changed the Word of God. It seems to me you are actually trying to learn about it. Take the whole council of God. Don't pick and choose and then apply your own feelings to it.

And, I'm a woman, not a man. Just fyi.

 

[Yahshua]

When Jesus was dying on the Cross, He didnt refer to her as mother....>He called her "woman".

This is a corruption of translation. The phrase He used translates into "ma'am" or "mom". The Messiah - who's supposed to be sinless during His ministry - wouldn't go and dishonor His mother.

 

[HisKid]

This is a corruption of translation. The phrase He used translates into "ma'am" or "mom". The Messiah - who's supposed to be sinless during His ministry - wouldn't go and dishonor His mother.

He wasn't dishonoring her. He was addressing her as she is/was. She is not the "mother of God". She is a woman who needs a savior, just like the rest of the human race.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

He wasn't dishonoring her. He was addressing her as she is/was. She is not the "mother of God". She is a woman who needs a savior, just like the rest of the human race.

Amen and amen

 

[Kidron]

The Messiah - who's supposed to be sinless during His ministry - wouldn't go and dishonor His mother.

You must be a Catholic.

Your theology teaches you that if Jesus says....>"who is my mother, brother, sister... but those who have believed"....then this is Jesus "sinning"., which is why you see the words of Jesus on the Cross, as sin, when He does not elevate Mary to the queen of heaven Throne position.

 

[Yahshua]

He wasn't dishonoring her. He was addressing her as she is/was. She is not the "mother of God". She is a woman who needs a savior, just like the rest of the human race.

I'm sharing with you a corruption of translation. He didn't call her woman. You're adding to the text this "mother of God" title to her to argue against. He called her the Hebrew equivalent of "ma". She was in charge of the wedding and they ran out of wine. She came to him for help. He didn't say "woman what has this to do with me?" He was saying, "but ma why is it our problem? my time hasn't come yet."

 

[Kidron]

I'm sharing with you a corruption of translation.

What translation.?

I teach manuscript evidence......so, come now and tell us about the Greek Text that produced the English version, that you have claimed is "corrupted".., without posting any evidence.
And dont use Wikipedia as that is somewhat controlled by the Catholic church.

Let me tell you about 2 Satanic Versions. Its the "Queen James Bible" and the Catholic Douay Rheims .
Both of these are not really bibles, they are man made, religious, doctrines of Devils.

One teaches that Gays are "born this way", and one teaches that Water saves you.

 

[Kidron]

What did he have to do? He had to change his mind and turn and go back home.

He had to decide to leave the pig pen so that he could have a good bed again, and a meal.

Here is the thing about the Prod Son....He never stopped being a SON.
Living with the pigs and the whores and the drunks and the addicts, just made him a FOOL.......thats all.
It didnt stop Him from being a son.

So, the Prod Son parable is not the idea that He lost his salvation until he stopped sleeping with the Pigs.
He didnt have to clean up and be a good boy so that the Father would accept him. All he had to do was COME HOME !!

The context of the Parable is that GOD is always waiting with Unconditional love.
The Father is always ready to RECEIVE us.
The Forgiveness of the Father is not earned...........because its never goes away, never changes, never stops..... never ends.

Jesus stands at the door and knocks on the heart of every one, who is living in the pig pen, and that is everyone who is an unbeliever.

""""ALL have sinned:""........= that is the pig pen.

He was still the FATHER of the prodigal, even when the boy was laying in the ditch next to the pigs and the whores.

Notice in the Parable that God didnt require him to get a BATH and CLEAN UP before He "Put the BEST Robe on Him".
See that?

THat is God, giving us the BLood of Jesus, when we were "Ungodly" and "yet sinners".

The REPENTING we do, is to turn from UNBELIEF to BELIEF.
That is the REAL Repentance that God accepts.

 

[HisKid]

I'm sharing with you a corruption of translation. He didn't call her woman. You're adding to the text this "mother of God" title to her to argue against. He called her the Hebrew equivalent of "ma". She was in charge of the wedding and they ran out of wine. She came to him for help. He didn't say "woman what has this to do with me?" He was saying, "but ma why is it our problem? my time hasn't come yet."

She was his "ma". On earth. And? I have a ma and a pa. But my Father is God.. as is hers.

 

[Yahshua]

What translation.
I teach manuscript evidence......so, come now and tell us about the Greek Text that produced the English version, that you have claimed is "corrupted"..

lol how much time you got?

1) Greek Copies lack the Hebrew culture:
Some elements scribes simply didn't have a Greek word what they were describing and did the best they could with words that were close equivalents. And in other areas it's clear they hadn't a clue about the culture from which the accounts were written and so completely miss figures of speech.

2) Corrupted when Codified by RCC:
Portions were added to accounts to promote religious doctrine, which are still there in modern bibles today.

3) Text Added to English Translation:
The scribes of the original KJV added words and phrases in their attempt to "help" interpretation, but there was push-back for adding to the text, so they republished their translation italicizing all word and phrases that weren't part of the original text (this is why I prefer the original KJV when sharing English because at least I can see those corruptions).

4) Later English Versions Morphed Text:
Unfortunately, later English versions absorbed the once italicized word and phrases and in an attempt to modernize the text completely changing the originally intended meaning of passages.

 

[HisKid]

lol how much time you got?

1) Greek Copies lack the Hebrew culture:
Some elements scribes simply didn't have a Greek word what they were describing and did the best they could with words that were close equivalents. And in other areas it's clear they hadn't a clue about the culture from which the accounts were written and so completely miss figures of speech.

2) Corrupted when Codified by RCC:
Portions were added to accounts to promote religious doctrine, which are still there in modern bibles today.

3) Text Added to English Translation:
The scribes of the original KJV added words and phrases in their attempt to "help" interpretation, but there was push-back for adding to the text, so they republished their translation italicizing all word and phrases that weren't part of the original text (this is why I prefer the original KJV when sharing English because at least I can see those corruptions).

4) Later English Versions Morphed Text:
Unfortunately, later English versions absorbed the once italicized word and phrases and in an attempt to modernize the text completely changing the originally intended meaning of passages.

What do you believe about Mary? What is your position regarding the Catholic religion?