Is masturbation really a sin?
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I don't believe anyone is trying to shame u , u r entitled to believe what u will but b careful please , when u condemn others , none of us r perfect and that means u too . U may do something that u don't consider to b sinful but I do . Ultimately God is our Judge and I'm persuaded that masturbation in itself is not sinful , u think differently and that's fine . The trouble comes when we try to tell each other what to do and what not to do . I'm sure that the ancient Hebrews had a word for masturbation but it's not in the Old Testament , I'm sure the Greeks had a word for it too but u won't find it in the New Testament either . If it was a sin God would have specifically said so , I'm confident of that . U think differently , I'm fine with that .*Shrug* I know you're trying hard to shame me, but I honestly don't care what you think. If you think masturbation isn't a sin and encourage other people to continue to engage in it rather than have the Holy Spirit help overcome it, then I'm completely fine not being associated with you.
I think this is the most interesting post on this thread.
I found it interesting that you parenthesized "on their own". Does that suggest you think there is a difference? and if so, then why?
And when you say "visual aid"- is that vagueness intentional?
I cannot imagine the scenario where there is a married woman incorporating some kind of self-stimulation into a seduction routine... I cannot imagine the any man being like "STOP THAT, YOU SINNER!" in a serious manner.
God gave men and women the desire to have sex to produce life. God made sex for the marriage unit. It is good, yet as the world, they pervert all that God made good with lust and perversion.
Only those who have sex with many people get STDs, HIV, and other medical issues. Faithful men and women in marriage, the percentage of those is almost non-existent. WHY? Because God's blessing comes with obedience. And Sin produces its own reward.
So, do you have the very Roman Catholic position that says that sex is a sin even within marriage if the couple doesn't have procreative intent?
"Repressed sexual desire is surely a cause of sexual deviancies."
This is a lie and a talking point from the LGBTQ narrative.
Those bound by sexual addiction and lust are created by exposure to pornography and abuse, producing much of the homosexuality and sexual strongholds in people. Those who do not put this "innocent action" in check are those who move to peeping toms, drugs, deeper darker porno, homosexuality, rape, and even murder.
The idea is just to do what makes you feel Good; you are not hurting anyone. This is sexual humanism and atheism, brother. Those who find
As you say, "release." Soon, they discover it is a temporary satisfaction that must be repeated again and again, yet each time they delve deeper into depravity.
Is it better to hurt yourself than others? So, when they commit suicide, are you ok with that?
What a demonic thing to say and think.
This is the lie of the enemy. Make God so unreasonable about sexual relationships.If you read what I said, I clearly stated that God blesses the bedroom of the Marriage Chamber, and it is no one's business what is happening in it. It is Undefiled. The world wants that, but without God's standard of "in marriage only."
Can't read anything in this post that I would disagree with
I don't think that's neccesarily true in every case... and this is coming from a person who has little respect for the field of psychology.
To be thorough- "repression" is defined as a subconscious exclusion of impulses. IOW, the person doesn't know it is happening.
A person who has their attraction to the opposite sex "repressed" because of abuse might still experience sexual desire in general... which will lead to utter chaos in the flesh; and the person doesn't know what to do.
That's not to excuse homosexual behavior; only to explain. Not EVERY person we might put in the lgbt category is the result of the wrath of god putting them into a gay frenzy.
U r twisting things away from your original point now , which is a sign that u feel u r loosing the discussion . I'm not talking about homosexuality or suicide as I'm sure u know . If u can't stay on topic then I'm not going to try to discuss this any further with u . If u have something new and relevant to say about the original topic I'm happy to hear u . Otherwise goodnight and may God bless u .
It will cause you serious problems if you do not. You can never get over the addiction of sex. When your body is activated, it's on. The longer you do not do it, the worse you are for being obedient to Jesus. There is this thing called sexual reboot, but those people have claimed it still there, has not gone away. Your body is wired to do it, it drives you to keep going. If you try resist that, it will cause you problems.
This debate dates back to the times when the Roman Catholic church had the whole earth under it's control. They said drawings and paintings was punishment by death. They said sex in any position other than missinary is punishment by death. They burned people at the cross for these things, and masturbation was one of them.
All these things about these debates is called, religion. That was the problem Job had in the bible. He was a religioius man, and God fixed that problem. Job was always paranoid and making sacrifices. This thing about masturbation is paranoia. These things about artwork was paranoia.
What did God say was the ten commandments. And if you follow two of these greater things, that is what God wants.
God didn't give us the commandments to condemn us, but for our own good.
There was a scripture in the old testament that does in fact talk about masturbation. It says, "...and if a soldier have an issue during the night, he is to go and wash at the river."
It will make you very weak and easy for the devil to attack if you do not take care of that problem. It's an addiction, very addictive. It's because of your bodies natural chemicals at work. You body is driving you to mate.
This debate dates back to the times when the Roman Catholic church had the whole earth under it's control. They said drawings and paintings was punishment by death. They said sex in any position other than missinary is punishment by death. They burned people at the cross for these things, and masturbation was one of them.
All these things about these debates is called, religion. That was the problem Job had in the bible. He was a religioius man, and God fixed that problem. Job was always paranoid and making sacrifices. This thing about masturbation is paranoia. These things about artwork was paranoia.
What did God say was the ten commandments. And if you follow two of these greater things, that is what God wants.
God didn't give us the commandments to condemn us, but for our own good.
There was a scripture in the old testament that does in fact talk about masturbation. It says, "...and if a soldier have an issue during the night, he is to go and wash at the river."
It will make you very weak and easy for the devil to attack if you do not take care of that problem. It's an addiction, very addictive. It's because of your bodies natural chemicals at work. You body is driving you to mate.
So, true story- a lot of people who use pornography over a long period- it is followed by deviance and suicide. I'm sure there are other factors at play; but what CS1 is talking about is tangentially related; since pornography is such a topical accomplice.
I don't know for certain that masturbation necessarily implies a sexual addiction that will eventually lead to suicide; but there is definitely a correlation and a relationship going on somewhere in there. Suicide prevention is very important to me.
Just for the record , I'm not a sex maniac or homosexual and I don't masturbate . I'm a happily married ( 24 years ) middle aged straight woman .
I just don't believe in condemning someone for doing something that is not prohibited or considered to b a sin according to God's Word , the Bible . I'm off to bed now , good night and God bless u all
I just don't believe in condemning someone for doing something that is not prohibited or considered to b a sin according to God's Word , the Bible . I'm off to bed now , good night and God bless u all
Sin is the case every time. FYI, Psychology, which is the study of behavior, is also biased based on the person conducting the study. The APA is full of Homosexuals and Athiest.
IN addition, the false narrative of "repression" most will not see the same thing for a married man who is looking to sleep with someone other than his wife. Is that also a case of repression or lack of commitment and self-control? The subconscious impulses, maybe?
From a Biblical world view, sin is the cause, and fallen man produces ungodly desires and needs redemption. Also, it is not normal to want to sleep wth the same sex it is a serious cognitive dilemma t which those who say they are "psychologists" promote this abusive sexual preference.