Is it ok to be once saved always saved.

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I still keep sinning and sinning. repented. BUT I still smoke and drink.


I've prayed for you often and would expect you to use the valuable blessing provided from
God's Holy Word. Your answer to your question was answered thoroughly in the videos.
Please use the advanced search function and go back to my responses to you when you had panic attacks.

I don't recall your responses, if any. You should focus on those because they clearly provide the gift of everlasting life.
You need to quit trusting in your good works and change your mind. That's what true repentance is. It is not an obedience to the law.
You think you can be saved if you just give up your sinful habits.
You believed someone's false gospel...
You must change your mind to make Jesus the Object of your salvation. If I were you, I would Not sleep tonight until you settle that issue. You probably won't tomorrow. Do it now. Today is the day of salvation.
 
So you’re going to bet your soul on this verse and ignore ALL the other verses that give warnings?? Good luck!

What you’re are doing is a pick and choose gospel. Wow!
Do you consider the word of God to be true? if so then yeah it may be one verse but one verse is all that is needed as it is the literal word of God as if spoken from his mouth directly and if he says that no one can be taken from him he means it.

What verses warn against this anyways?
 
Once the Father gives one to his son Jesus no one can pluck them away. I guess the question remains- who are the ones that the Father gives to his son Jesus?
Yes that is a good question isn't it? this is when you see people start talking about the elect and who the elect are it usually ends up being a chosen type of thing making some meant to be saved before they were even born and others not
 
Yes, it means no one can take them out of the Father’s hand, BUT that person can still sin and fall short of being saved by his own volition. For example, if you don’t repent, or worse, you turn away from God.
So you think sin has that kind of power over Jesus? our salvation is not based on ourtselves it is based on Christ and so no our sins cannot have power to make us become lost you give the enemy to much credit
 
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So you think sin has that kind of power over Jesus? our salvation is not based on ourtselves it is based on Christ and so no our sins cannot have power to make us become lost you give the enemy to much credit

Yes, faith in Jesus frees us from sin positionally (via being credited with Christ's righteousness per Romans 3:21-5:1),
but that does not mean believers have no MFW and become robots, so they may choose to repudiate their saving faith
(per the 16 Scriptures I cited in #26).
 
Yes, it means no one can take them out of the Father’s hand, BUT that person can still sin and fall short of being saved by his own volition. For example, if you don’t repent, or worse, you turn away from God.
Those that the Father gives to Jesus will indeed repent and never turn away from God. By our own volition, we will still occasionally sin and fall short. No worries, God is there to pick us up, dust us off, and send us on our way to continue to do the work that he has prepared for us to accomplish beforehand. OSAS.
 
Those that the Father gives to Jesus will indeed repent and never turn away from God. By our own volition, we will still occasionally sin and fall short. No worries, God is there to pick us up, dust us off, and send us on our way to continue to do the work that he has prepared for us to accomplish beforehand. OSAS.

No, what you said is false! This is not Scriptural.
 
No, what you said is false! This is not Scriptural.
I believe that it is scriptural. Either Jesus died for our sins, or he didn't. I believe that he did. What would be the point of feeling remorse and confessing our sins if there was no forgiveness?
 
I believe that it is scriptural. Either Jesus died for our sins, or he didn't. I believe that he did. What would be the point of feeling remorse and confessing our sins if there was no forgiveness?

You’re truly missing the point and the msg.
Of course Jesus died for our sins, but if you sin, and we ALL do, He is our advocate (Councilor/ Lawyer) pleading our case. If you say we never sin after being saved you are a liar, and He is not in you.

We most certainly can fall and lose our soul. The Scripture tells us this!!
 
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Op has been banned, But in answer.

its not only OK, I would say it is required.

Do you believe God saves his children, and completes the work he began (OSAS)

or do you believe God saves us, then we have to keep ourselves saved by what we do? (NOSAS)
 
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Op has been banned, But in answer.

its not only OK, I would say it is required.

Do you believe God saves his children, and completes the work he began (OSAS)

or do you believe God saves us, then we have to keep ourselves saved by what we do? (NOSAS)

Do you believe people who turn their back to God, after being saved, will go to heaven? I have witnessed people walking away. They are now worse off than when they began.
 
Do you believe people who turn their back to God, after being saved, will go to heaven?
I believe what John said

they were never of us, if they were of us, they would never have departed. but they departed to prove they were never of us.

I have witnessed people walking away. They are now worse off than when they began.
Of course. when you have the truth, and never take it. then walk away, it is far worse for you.

it does not mean they lost salvation. You can not lose what you never had
 
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You quoted me incorrectly, and mixed up your replies with mine; it makes it look like I said that whole msg.!!

Please dont respond like you did. You have to reply below somebody’s msg after you hit the reply button on the lower right.
 
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Do you believe people who turn their back to God, after being saved, will go to heaven?
I believe what John said

they were never of us, if they were of us, they would never have departed. but they departed to prove they were never of us.
I have witnessed people walking away. They are now worse off than when they began.

Of course. when you have the truth, and never take it. then walk away, it is far worse for you.

it does not mean they lost salvation. You can not lose what you never had
 
You quoted me incorrectly, and mixed up your replies with mine; it makes it look like I said that whole msg.!!

Please dont respond like you did. You have to reply below somebody’s msg after you hit the reply button on the lower right.
I did not do this on purpose.

I know how to repond I have been here for many years. Please next time do not assume something, ask the person if they made a mistake..

I requoted above