Is God Good?

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Dave-L said:
You judge God by your standards, not by his.
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friend, i do not judge God.
your rabbi Clark does in his heart, and laments only that there is no court in which to bring suit.

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.​
(John 10:10)
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rabbi Clark says Christ is the thief in a land with no law to hold Him to account.
rabbi Clark's error is lacking fear of God in his eyes, and by so doing, lacking knowledge. you cannot receive knowledge of the Holy One while simultaneously accusing the Holy One of being profane.
 
11 pages in and Dave is still using his self conceived logic to swat at wisdom and truth. I’m tapping out. May the Lord bless you all. In my city it is a glorious day and I’m going soak up some of this long awaited sunshine.
 
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posthuman said:
well i wouldn't say 'never' --- one day when He gathers us to Himself we will know Him, even as we are fully known :)
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I don't quite understand what you meant by "even as we are fully known". If you're suggesting that we will know God as well as He knows us, then that would be a big mistake.
Whilst we will have glorified sinless bodies and we will receive a lot more revelation and wisdom, we will still never get to fully know everything about God. He is infinitely wise and He is as big as the universe (which is never ending) so we will continue to learn new things about Him for all eternity and we will never ever know all there is to know about Him.
 
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ScottyPchristian said:
I don't quite understand what you meant by "even as we are fully known". If you're suggesting that we will know God as well as He knows us, then that would be a big mistake.
Whilst we will have glorified sinless bodies and we will receive a lot more revelation and wisdom, we will still never get to fully know everything about God. He is infinitely wise and He is as big as the universe (which is never ending) so we will continue to learn new things about Him for all eternity and we will never ever know all there is to know about Him.
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What does this mean then, because it is what I was quoting...


1 Corinthians 13:11-12
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

I totally agree 'it will take eternity' to know Him :)
 
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posthuman said:
i do not think you have grasped that justice is much easier to discern than mercy.
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It's a deep subject the church and philosophers have grappled with for centuries. We aren't even touching it here. I'm just saying I think Clark settled it after a prolonged and tedious debate with VanTil.
 
posthuman said:
friend, i do not judge God.
your rabbi Clark does in his heart, and laments only that there is no court in which to bring suit.

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: ​
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.​
(John 10:10) ​
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rabbi Clark says Christ is the thief in a land with no law to hold Him to account.
rabbi Clark's error is lacking fear of God in his eyes, and by so doing, lacking knowledge. you cannot receive knowledge of the Holy One while simultaneously accusing the Holy One of being profane.
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You are judging Clark mocking him.
 
kaylagrl said:
Taking Scripture out of context to judge another brother/sister in Christ doesn't make you right. It makes you judgemental. But it's ok, I forgive you cause God made you do it :)
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You are mocking God as a display of wit?
 
posthuman said:
wow you ought to look more closely at Genesis 3!
Adam did not want to be separated from his wife, and subjected himself knowingly and willingly to death in order to be with her. he is a type of Christ, who likewise - but in the Lord's case perfectly rather than sinfully - offered His own blood in order to secure to Himself His bride.
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Sinful Adam teaches righteousness? He teaches what sin is. Paul says he loved the creature more than the creator.
 
First of all, it's not only arrogant, but stupid as well, to presume that God can't create evil. :cool:
 
posthuman said:
He sowed good seed, and the Enemy sowed tares. He will preserve His harvest, 'that He might be just and the Justifier of him which believeth in Jesus'
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Did God fumble the ball in creating what you see? Did thinks get away from him? How can you have faith in a god like that?
 
posthuman said:
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But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! ​
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what do you think, Dave?
would Christ be better off drowned in the sea with a millstone around His neck?
woe unto God, is that the byline?
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How do you know you have not deceived and are a deceiver of God's little ones?
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Notice it was the lying spirit, not God who did it. If God would have caused those prophets to lie, then He would have sinned, as that contradicts James 1:13. But by Him sending a lying spirit to do it, He didn’t cause it Himself. He used it to do the job for Him.

As the 2LBCoF so aptly states it...God hath decreed in himself, from all eternity, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes to pass; yet so as thereby is God neither the author of sin nor hath fellowship with any therein; nor is violence offered to the will of the creature, nor yet is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established; in which appears his wisdom in disposing all things, and power and faithfulness in accomplishing his decree.
( Isaiah 46:10; Ephesians 1:11; Hebrews 6:17; Romans 9:15, 18; James 1:13; 1 John 1:5; Acts 4:27, 28; John 19:11; Numbers 23:19; Ephesians 1:3-5 )
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Who instructed the lying spirit to lie? God perhaps?
 
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