And you are the dictionary?Better yet, lets discuss it in a thread.
And you are the dictionary?Better yet, lets discuss it in a thread.
The Law is now replaced by the New Covenant. Love in our hearts directs us away from sin and condemns us if we sin.
God replaced the OC with the New.Same covenant fulfilled in Christ by the law of faith to perform the the letter death could not called a work of faith. Same covenant of that labor of Love that works in our hearts directing us away from sin and condemns us if we sin.
And you are the dictionary?
Murder is the planned killing of an innocent person.
Why did Jesus pray, not my will but thine?John 10:17-18
King James Version
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father
Jesus gave His life as a ransom for many.
Mark 10:45 King James Version (KJV)
45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Gave His life. Not murder, but sacrifice.
Why did Jesus pray, not my will but thine?
Two different persons one being.Are not the Father and the Son one?
He was fully man too, He did bleed and did feel pain. He was human. What man chooses to suffer excruciating pain? All our senses would oppose such, yet did Christ do so, suffer, for our sake.
Two different persons one being.
God replaced the OC with the New.
Gordon Clark solved for many the problem of Evil. This is a bare-bones summary worth looking into if interested.
Clark first asks; "How can the existence of God be harmonized with the existence of evil?"
If God is all-good, He would want to destroy evil.
If God is all-powerful, He is able to destroy evil. But evil still exists.
It seems that God cannot be both all-good and all-powerful. However, Christianity teaches that He is both. This is the problem of evil."
Clark stated that "God's causing a man to sin is not sin. There is no law, superior to God, which forbids him to decree sinful acts. Sin presupposes a law, for sin is lawlessness." Clark explained that "God is above law" because "the laws that God imposes on men do not apply to the divine nature."
Two different persons one being.
No you make God a sinner if He breaks it. The law is Gods nature. I didn't think this was a controversial thing to say. Saying He is "above the law" is separating God from it, as if the law isn't His very nature. Nobody is saying the law is God, but God is in nature perfect by the laws standard, the law is set by His nature, or the way He is in truth. You can't separate the two, and the way you say it seems to suggest God can transgress His law without having actual "broken it" because He's above it. NO! Just NO! This line of thinking turns God into a tyrannical hypocrite unworthy of any praise or worship. I'm not sure I'm following you here exactly, but if I'm not misunderstanding what you're suggesting here somehow, this is a dangerous line of thinking and worldview, couple this with your extreme view of Gods sovereignty, and you are the perfect candidate for some kind of "I'm chosen to bring this judgement to these people, self righteous holy wrath unleashed" lunatic spree.God is the lawgiver. You make the law God if he must obey it = serious error.
It was the plotting religious leaders/Judas under the influence of Satan who murdered Jesus.Murder is the planned killing of an innocent person.
This person is saying that God is a murderer. Now he is calling God the lawless one.No you make God a sinner if He breaks it. The law is Gods nature. I didn't think this was a controversial thing to say. Saying He is "above the law" is separating God from it, as if the law isn't His very nature. Nobody is saying the law is God, but God is in nature perfect by the laws standard, the law is set by His nature, or the way He is in truth. You can't separate the two, and the way you say it seems to suggest God can transgress His law without having actual "broken it" because He's above it. NO! Just NO! This line of thinking turns God into a tyrannical hypocrite unworthy of any praise or worship. I'm not sure I'm following you here exactly, but if I'm not misunderstanding what you're suggesting here somehow, this is a dangerous line of thinking and worldview, couple this with your extreme view of Gods sovereignty, and you are the perfect candidate for some kind of "I'm chosen to bring this judgement to these people, self righteous holy wrath unleashed" lunatic spree.
No body is saying God must "obey" His law, but you tell me, can He break it? Can God transgress His law? That's what I hear you suggesting.
Dave-L said:
God is the lawgiver. You make the law God if he must obey it = serious error.
No you make God a sinner if He breaks it. The law is Gods nature. I didn't think this was a controversial thing to say. Saying He is "above the law" is separating God from it, as if the law isn't His very nature. Nobody is saying the law is God, but God is in nature perfect by the laws standard, the law is set by His nature, or the way He is in truth. You can't separate the two, and the way you say it seems to suggest God can transgress His law without having actual "broken it" because He's above it. NO! Just NO! This line of thinking turns God into a tyrannical hypocrite unworthy of any praise or worship. I'm not sure I'm following you here exactly, but if I'm not misunderstanding what you're suggesting here somehow, this is a dangerous line of thinking and worldview, couple this with your extreme view of Gods sovereignty, and you are the perfect candidate for some kind of "I'm chosen to bring this judgement to these people, self righteous holy wrath unleashed" lunatic spree.No body is saying God must "obey" His law, but you tell me, can He break it? Can God transgress His law? That's what I hear you suggesting.
Agreed. This person is trolling no doubt about it. And up to no good.have any of ya'll asked yourselves 'why (dave-l) is being 'allowed' to even keep posting here in this
(chistian-forum)??? and challenging others???
THINK ABOUT IT!!!
“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23 (KJV 1900)It was the plotting religious leaders/Judas under the influence of Satan who murdered Jesus.
If you are attending a Church fellowship that teaches a doctrine that God is a murderer....get out....now! If you are teaching this doctrine stop it immediately.
John 8:40
But now you are trying to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing.
Luke 22:3
Then Satan entered Judas Iscariot, who was one of the Twelve.
Luke 22:53
When I was with you day after day in the temple [enclosure], you did not stretch forth [your] hands against Me. But this is your hour—and the power [which] darkness [gives you has its way].
If God can sin, the Law is God, not him.No you make God a sinner if He breaks it. The law is Gods nature. I didn't think this was a controversial thing to say. Saying He is "above the law" is separating God from it, as if the law isn't His very nature. Nobody is saying the law is God, but God is in nature perfect by the laws standard, the law is set by His nature, or the way He is in truth. You can't separate the two, and the way you say it seems to suggest God can transgress His law without having actual "broken it" because He's above it. NO! Just NO! This line of thinking turns God into a tyrannical hypocrite unworthy of any praise or worship. I'm not sure I'm following you here exactly, but if I'm not misunderstanding what you're suggesting here somehow, this is a dangerous line of thinking and worldview, couple this with your extreme view of Gods sovereignty, and you are the perfect candidate for some kind of "I'm chosen to bring this judgement to these people, self righteous holy wrath unleashed" lunatic spree.
No body is saying God must "obey" His law, but you tell me, can He break it? Can God transgress His law? That's what I hear you suggesting.