Is God Good?

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Dave-L said:
Not a sparrow drops to the ground without the Father. He kills everyone eventually. The wages of sin is death.
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Satan kills steals and destroys. God gives life, redeems, resurrects and renews.
 
Dave-L said:
I'm just saying our hearts condemn us. The Law only breaks it down for the wicked so they have no excuse.
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The law is addressed to the sinner. Christians sin. Neither have a excuse. The one that hears it or the one that does not. .

One is supported by the work of another that works in our earthen body of death .

Salvation is not a excuse it is the labor of God love. He is not a man
 
garee said:
The law is addressed to the sinner. Christians sin. Neither have a excuse. The one that hears it or the one that does not. .

One is supported by the work of another that works in our earthen body of death .

Salvation is not a excuse it is the labor of God love. He is not a man
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The Law is now replaced by the New Covenant. Love in our hearts directs us away from sin and condemns us if we sin.
 
Dave-L said:
How about the Canaanites or the people in the flood?
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They gave themselves over completely to the evil one and were beyond redemption.
So they were righteously judged and condemned.

When the evil one is taken out of the way along with the powers and principalities, there will be no more death. Wicked men given over to the evil one will surely suffer death, Whereas the truly repentant who appeal to Jesus for salvation received their acquittal and are thereby reborn to newness of life eternal.

God gives life. Satan kills steals and destroys. This present evil age is ruled by the wicked one, but not for much longer. Scripture is quite clear that the scapegoat Satan will receive all of the blame for this evil in this age, and God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit spirit will get all the glory for its redemption.
 
cv5 said:
They gave themselves over completely to the evil one and were beyond redemption.
So they were righteously judged and condemned.

When the evil one is taken out of the way along with the powers and principalities, there will be no more death. Wicked men given over to the evil one will surely suffer death, Whereas the truly repentant who appeal to Jesus for salvation received their acquittal and are thereby reborn to newness of life eternal.

God gives life. Satan kills steals and destroys. This present evil age is ruled by the wicked one, but not for much longer. Scripture is quite clear that the scapegoat Satan will receive all of the blame for this evil in this age, and God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit spirit will get all the glory for its redemption.
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How about God owing death to everyone born? Since they are wicked and deserve death? And he is good and pays what's due?
 
Dave-L said:
How about God owing death to everyone born? Since they are wicked and deserve death? And he is good and pays what's due?
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God is no murderer the way you say He is. God is a righteous judge, and if it were not for his mercy, we would have no hope. God is also a gracious Savior.

I will leave the rest of the details for you to consider.
 
cv5 said:
God is no murderer the way you say He is. God is a righteous judge, and if it were not for his mercy, we would have no hope. God is also a gracious Savior.

I will leave the rest of the details for you to consider.
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None are innocent, so he kills all sinners when their time runs out.
 
Dave-L said:
Did God kill everyone except Noah and his family in the flood? Or just make it rain hoping they would swim to a shore somewhere?
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The Bible does not inform us of how many believers were part of that Noah's Ark discourse used as a parable using the temporal seen to give us the unseen fulfilment in Christ not seen .He is the Ark of the covenant .Us in him.

It was not used for separating the goats from the sheep . The ark took on two of a kind .Obviously it included those who had saving faith and those who did not .

The spiritual seed is that which was being preserved. It was passed to Noah not in respect to him but the power that worked in him the gospel. Then passed to Sem, to represent the unseen Spirit of Christ. not his whole family. His whole family was saved, some believers some not. we walk by faith

No statue of limitation on death .It has no mercy in this corrupted land . The dying wrath according to the letter of the law is being revealed from heaven . In that way he has mercy on whom he wills. He is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul pleases . He works it out in us . Why would we complain? I am sure then when we get our new bodies and the letter of the law death has been cast in the fiery judgment of God the the complaining will cease.

Philippians 2:12-14 King James Version (KJV) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
 
Dave-L said:
Who killed Jesus?

“Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, And as a root out of a dry ground: He hath no form nor comeliness; And when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. He is despised and rejected of men; A man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: And we hid as it were our faces from him; He was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, And carried our sorrows: Yet we did esteem him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: The chastisement of our peace was upon him; And with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned every one to his own way; And the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, Yet he opened not his mouth: He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, So he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: And who shall declare his generation? For he was cut off out of the land of the living: For the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, And with the rich in his death; Because he had done no violence, Neither was any deceit in his mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: When thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, He shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: By his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; For he shall bear their iniquities.” Isaiah 53:1–11 (KJV 1900)
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Where is murder?! I don't see it.
 
Dave-L said:
Jesus did not die on the cross?
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Yes that is correct after crying out for strength over and over the father in mutual submission sending the strength of the Spirit .

Then the Father not seen rolled back the stone and Jesus walked out. The father displaying the power of the holiness of His Spirit.

Come forth all who a heavy laden and I will strengthen your spirit to finish my will.
Its the same kind of food or meat the disciple at first knew not of. We eat by faith as it works in us. We drink the milk of the word it teaches us he is gracious.

After four days the father gave Lazarus the power to raise .

I think there is a four day law?
 
Dave-L now on iggy. Time can be better spent elsewhere.
 
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