Introduction with a contemplation.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Ceph

Was proud and sinful
Jun 25, 2025
615
318
63
22
I would like to begin by stating that I'm now not entirely sure who I am.
All I can truly say that I know, is that everything I have is given to me for one end, and that I have sinned against God and man, and must be delivered.
I've been gifted with a lot of wisdom, and have been safely kept from the vain controversies of the world throughout the dvelopment of my life.
Apparently the world is about to end. Beleive that I've struggled to grapple with the fact.
Transgression, lack of restraint, bloodshed, arrogance of persons, delusional governers, and natural disaters have exceedingly increased in all corners of the earth, and all nations are now united in commiting works of godlessness.
From the tesimony of Enoch, this writing was finished on the 5998th year of creation, on the 30th day of the third month, and the 99th day of the 364 day year. The next Sabbath will be on the 2nd day of the fourth month, which is the day after tomorrow.
From the gentiles, this day is called June 27 of 2025 A.D.
Barnabas says in the spirit in the Epistle of Barnabas that the world only has 6000 years to reign. Observing the times, I'm finding few reasons to doubt his testimony.

I'm usure how exactly to trace where my relationship with God began. My earliest memory of interacting with him was, playfully, feircely tempting him.
I was a little boy on the beach, about 4 years old. I was sitting on the tide letting the waves hit me. Somehow, I must've already figured that God was in control of all of it. I know I haven't always felt so throughout my life, but at that time I did.
I remember looking up into the sky and screaming; "God is stupid! God is dumb! I bet you can't hit me with a tidal wave!". I remember eagerly hoping for and expecting a huge wave to appear over the horizon. I remeber feeling like the waves that hit me were getting bigger, and I beckoned him more and more.
Of course, no tidal wave came, and I don't remember how I felt directly after that moment. Looking back on it, that day now holds more significance to me than almost any other day of my life, and with it I've wondered many things about my ultimate fate and what I mean to my creator.
I've been browsing grown-up things on the internet since I was very young, about 10.
For a period of time, I considered myself an athiest, which began when I was about 12.
When I was 14 or so, I stumbled upon the law of God through content that combined the faith with a political narrative I was fond of, and the law itself just deeply 'clicked' with me. Whether the person who made that content was someone led astray, or someone who was extremely clever at fishing for men, I can't discredit that their actions played a part in my pilgrimage to salvation, and I hope that they are also saved.
From that time I beleived in Jesus, and commited myself to reading the Bible and learning all that I can about God.
I can't say from myself that family was really involved in my development. My parents baptized me in water as an infant, but beyond that have hardly instructed me in the way. In wickedness they divorced when I was very young. I have a big sister who also turns out to be wicked. I hear that she bullied me when I was a baby. I haven't attened congregations of church, or had much in the way of freinds throughout my life.

It would take very much to cover everything I can recall about my appointed journey.
I rejoyced, I was shown the word, I hoped for my future and made treasures in heaven, I wondered why the world didn't see the things I saw;
I transgressed, I had falls, the cornerstone became a stumbling stone. I cleaved to God and faced my potential condemnation.
At one point my heart was stitched together with threads of pride. Through its own conviction, it became completely undone.
There were tradgeties. There are regrets. There are still parts of me I wish God would finally take away already.
The weight of it all on me has been entirely between me and God alone.

I've studied much of the bible, and I've studied much of the apocrypha.
I've sought out to know the whole course of this world, the mechanisms of the spirit, where free will ends and where Gods hand begins, why the wicked must be irredeemably wicked, and why the righteous must continue to suffer evil thoughts; and I've looked for ways to 'prove' God - not for myself - but in hope of converting the most utterly deceived people.

🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺🭺

At the end of a great travail, and with faith restored to me, I will confidently conclude the great mystery as thus:
Everything that can possibly exist, must exist.
The thoughts that pass through our minds are as real as our two hands, with which we use to execute them materially in a breif and orderly fasion.
As strange and chaotic as our thoughts may be, they all must be conceived simply because their conception is possible.
Such things must be appended to living spirits with power to observe them, consider them, and execute them; from the perspective of beings both limited and unlimited, visible and invisible, with good wills and evil wills, with each appointed a perfect balence of good and bad possibilities according to their characters purpose, so that everyone can choose to attain to a hope in the promises of God in perfect fairness.
This was done to perfectly organize the chaos of all creation.

Since order arranges chaos,
and since attention notices rejection,
and since it is the truth that there are all kinds of falsesoods,
and good is what evil must feed off of to survive,
Gods spirit prevails over every conception, purpose, development, and thing.
When all things that can possibly happen throughout the heavens and on the earth are realized, everything good can be perfectly seperated from everything evil. Everything is weighed in perfect balance, and everything receives a perfect judgment.
All evil will be left into the agony, deficiency, and forgetfulness it completely belongs to, and all good will be established in the permanent security of it's own place.
Life is the fabric that gives all things their being, and love is the needle that threads it all together.

After all I've learned about myself, the best I can advise men to do for themselves is thus:
Don't fear the evil of your heart. Don't be afraid of yourself.
Beleive in YHWH, trust in him, hope in his promises, and wait for him always.
Surrender youself to God in trouble, and patiently allow his hand to guide you.
Don't be darkened by the teachings of Jesus the Christ, but fondly aspire to attain to them.
Remember that those who peirce him don't know what they are doing.

Fear God and do his commandments. That is the whole duty of man.
Bless Yahweh. Amen.
 
welcome823-1zy-w.png

Welcome!
 
This is well and good, but 'which' teachings should we "fondly aspire to attain to them"?
I speak from having eyes to see and ears to hear the parables, to those who may fear they are 'darnel weeds', 'bad fish', or 'sown among the thorns' because of their sins, as I have.
But such ought to remember that their ears and eyes are blessed for hearing, and their humility is virtuous.
 
Welcome to the fellowship at CC Ceph, glad you are joining us! I read your Intro and one thing that struck me was that you said the righteous must continue to suffer evil thoughts. I have come to this place, "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." A corresponding verse to 'give no place to the devil and he must flee' Eph 4:27. As has been said we are in a battlefield of the mind. Have fun browsing the Forums, God bless keep you🙏✝✡
 
  • Like
Reactions: Crazyjmill
Welcome to the fellowship at CC Ceph, glad you are joining us! I read your Intro and one thing that struck me was that you said the righteous must continue to suffer evil thoughts. I have come to this place, "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." A corresponding verse to 'give no place to the devil and he must flee' Eph 4:27. As has been said we are in a battlefield of the mind. Have fun browsing the Forums, God bless keep you🙏✝✡
Philippians4-8s.jpg

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
 
I have to confess, I'm now not entirely sure if what I concluded about reality is the case.
 
Yeah, scratch what I concluded about the great mystery.
I don't know anything until God reveals the truth. It still seems very plausible to me, but I don't want to be the cause of a lie if it's not the truth.
 
Yeah, scratch what I concluded about the great mystery.
I don't know anything until God reveals the truth. It still seems very plausible to me, but I don't want to be the cause of a lie if it's not the truth.


Perhaps its a good time to read the Imitation of Christ? It might help.
 
Everything must come to pass, every imagination of a man, every course of his emotions, every plan of his heart for things to come as they must come to be; so is the same with every angel, demon, and any other invisible spirit as well.
In the end, all of it will be judged, in a perfect judgment of all things that are, so that the light can be seperated form the darkness, and good and evil will be sorted into their own place.
Jacob had formed all things, and all things are made through Christ. He is the source and head of Gods creation, and he has the bright morning star;
But satan once had that star, he was created as the first angel; the cherub who covers, which would imply he was meant to cover for the sins of man...
But satan rebelled, from being made perfect as soon as he was created, and was cast down to earth to be destroyed with it; but Jesus Christ earned his place through his obedience, and he is the source and head of Gods creation, named before satan was created...

These are the things I'm deeply contemplating, and why I'm at this hiatus in my reasoning.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
Throughout the course of life of a man there is instability, and doubt, and fears, and all kinds of evils;
and there is also hope, and joy, and love, and all kinds of good.

Man is made in the image of God.

The brain has two hemispheres, one for logic, and one for dreaming.
Between them both operating at once, one thought, one imagination, one idea is conceived.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
And good things are made as the solution to problems...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
But before the problems came, the solution was already prepared.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
The seed of a tree has two parts: one for the embryo and one for its food.
They combine to grow a new plant, which in turn creates fruit with seeds after its own kind.

Through the things we witness, we create a new world with our imagination.
When we manifest what we imagine on earth, we inspire others to build up their own world from what we show.

God studies the righteous, but knows the proud from afar.
The serpent goes on its belly, and eats the dust all the days of its life... obsessed with the material things that are present, but never cleaving to that which brings eternal life.

The creaton began with the light being created because of the darkness, and it will end with the darkness destroyed and light reigning as if the darkness never was, forever.

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep and God’s Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.
God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw the light, and saw that it was good. God divided the light from the darkness. God called the light “day”, and the darkness he called “night”. There was evening and there was morning, the first day.
God said, “Let there be an expanse in the middle of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” God made the expanse, and divided the waters which were under the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so. God called the expanse “sky”. There was evening and there was morning, a second day.
God said, “Let the waters under the sky be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear;” and it was so. God called the dry land “earth”, and the gathering together of the waters he called “seas”. God saw that it was good. God said, “Let the earth yield grass, herbs yielding seeds, and fruit trees bearing fruit after their kind, with their seeds in it, on the earth;” and it was so. The earth yielded grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, with their seeds in it, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a third day.


From the beginning, all matter was arranged to be a suitible environment for men to dwell in.

God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs to mark seasons, days, and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth;” and it was so. God made the two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light to the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
God said, “Let the waters abound with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the sky.” God created the large sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed, after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind. God saw that it was good. God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
God said, “Let the earth produce living creatures after their kind, livestock, creeping things, and animals of the earth after their kind;” and it was so. God made the animals of the earth after their kind, and the livestock after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind. God saw that it was good.


And for them to witness life, and study it, and care for it, and be inspired by everything that takes place with it.

God said, “Let’s make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the sky, and over the livestock, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in his own image. In God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them. God said to them, “Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the sky, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” God said, “Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree, which bears fruit yielding seed. It will be your food. To every animal of the earth, and to every bird of the sky, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food;” and it was so.

And through Jesus we are taught to share this dominion, us witnessing the err of the serpents who consume the earth for themselves, looking forward to a better world.

From the darkness came light, and the light created the darkness, and from the darkness comes light again, until the light has fully overcome the darkness.

Yet this still should be considered an incomplete contemplation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
I suppose, in a way, satan still does cover for sin, as he is responsible for all of it, and he is getting sent to the eternal fire of Gods boundless anger because of it, along with the world that followed after his ways.

And those who beleived in Jesus and his ressurrection from the dead, and the mercy and atonement that his death represented, and the love that God has for people by him, will be allowed into the next world, along with all the labor that they've worked towards it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eli1
Transgression, lack of restraint, bloodshed, arrogance of persons, delusional governers, and natural disaters have exceedingly increased in all corners of the earth, and all nations are now united in commiting works of godlessness.
Less so than at many other times in history.
 
Less so than at many other times in history.

What do you mean, friend?
When was the last time in history that the entire worlds economy floated on fake currency from debt,
every politician was on the fringe and an idol, but did nothing but take money for themselves behind their desk,
babies everywhere were raised on ipads and caught up in pornography and horror from youth,
there were grand conspiracies worldwide from the powers that be to subvert, destroy, and puppeteer entire nations and races of people,
and every one of them was working unanimously to overthrow the throne of God and his perpetual law,
mass murders were broadcast on the news every single day,
and there was intense anger building up between every single nation combined with modern weapons so as to make the threat of actual global total warfare imminent?

Better yet, where in the world is there peace right now? And where else in history was there as much unrest around the world as this?
Can you pont out a single popular person who isn't suspected of being corrupt, and preaches something godly and sensical?
 
What do you mean, friend?
When was the last time in history that the entire worlds economy floated on fake currency from debt,
every politician was on the fringe and an idol, but did nothing but take money for themselves behind their desk,
babies everywhere were raised on ipads and caught up in pornography and horror from youth,
there were grand conspiracies worldwide from the powers that be to subvert, destroy, and puppeteer entire nations and races of people,
and every one of them was working unanimously to overthrow the throne of God and his perpetual law,
mass murders were broadcast on the news every single day,
and there was intense anger building up between every single nation combined with modern weapons so as to make the threat of actual global total warfare imminent?

Better yet, where in the world is there peace right now? And where else in history was there as much unrest around the world as this?
Can you pont out a single popular person who isn't suspected of being corrupt, and preaches something godly and sensical?
Never heard of the dark ages?