In what way do you believe God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
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Please do. Your answer should be a good example of believing incorrect doctrine.
I am right again. No one on Christian Chat truly believes God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell.
God does not show his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell. No one on Christian Chat has been able to tell me how they believe God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell.
He shows them through His perfect justice for their sins. Gods love is shown in His perfect mercy and His perfect justice, and His love is reflected in every bit of it.
So what exactly is your point with this question? To prove God doesn't love everyone? Maybe you could outline your point here a little better.
It is not an issue.... there is no hell according to modern theology.
Hell was invented by the papacy to install fear in believers.
The God I love does not create a place to burn people for eternity.
He is a just God and will justly punish the wicked.
I'll give you more evidence in the following posts...
Hell was invented by the papacy to install fear in believers.
The God I love does not create a place to burn people for eternity.
He is a just God and will justly punish the wicked.
I'll give you more evidence in the following posts...
Your arrogance is astounding.Since you don't answer many of my questions, I believe I am the one teaching you.
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel. For it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the Jew first, and to the Greek. 17 For the justice of God is revealed therein, from faith unto faith, as it is written: The just man liveth by faith. 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and injustice of those men that detain the truth of God in injustice: 19 Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
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modern theology is wrong dicing up the bible and summarizing it to fit one own version of salvation. Our Heavenly father however does not change. Jesus spoke of hell 70 times in the new testament. In vivid descriptions so you cant be hoodwinked by translations
- Eternal fire": Matthew 18:8, 25:41
- "Furnace of fire": Matthew 13:42, 50
- "Outer darkness": Matthew 8:12, 22:13, 25:30
- "Weeping and gnashing of teeth": 7 occurrences in Matthew/Luke
- Matthew 5:22, 29-30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33
- Mark 9:43, 45, 47
- Luke 12:5 (though Luke uses "Gehenna" only once, emphasizing fear of God's authority to cast into hell 83.
Can u please give me scripture references ? In Rev Ch 20 V 10 it states that : the devil , the beast and the false prophet shall b tormented day and night for ever and ever .
In Rev Ch 20 V 13 it states : the sea and death and he'll have up their dead and they were all then judged , shouldn't they have been judged before they were cast into hell ? Unless we see that he'll is just the grave and the state of those in the grave , unconscious or asleep as Paul puts it .
Then in Rev Ch 20 V 14+15 it states that death and he'll and whosoever was not found in the book of life , are cast into the lake of fire and that the lake of fire is actually the second death .
Rev Ch 21 V 8 tells us who will suffer this second death .
Rev Ch 22 V 14+15 tells us that we , who call ourselves Christians and have done our very best to keep Jesus's commandments , will have the right to the tree of life and may enter into the city ( Rev Ch 21 V 2 ) , but that some will b left out .
Rev Ch 22 V 18+19 r two very important verses that any and all of us will do well to keep in our hearts and minds always . As I asked before , can u give me references please ?
If u r interested at all , c how many times Jesus uses the word perish , the context that he uses it and , what that word translates as . Food for thought I think .
The parable of the wheat and tares...
Mat 13:29-30
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Jesus clearly explains the meaning...
Mat 13:38-40
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
At the end of the world... don't miss this.
It was in the harvest that the separation would take place, and He plainly stated, "The harvest is the end of the world." How can anyone misconstrue these words of Christ? The whole idea of the wicked going into the fire at the time of death contradicts our Lord's specific teaching that they would be cast into the fire at the end of the world.
Mat 13:29-30
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Jesus clearly explains the meaning...
Mat 13:38-40
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
At the end of the world... don't miss this.
It was in the harvest that the separation would take place, and He plainly stated, "The harvest is the end of the world." How can anyone misconstrue these words of Christ? The whole idea of the wicked going into the fire at the time of death contradicts our Lord's specific teaching that they would be cast into the fire at the end of the world.
Very good point, there is an association of "perish" with "hell" which should be questioned.
Remember, Gehenna was a real place (Valley of Hinnon) where they burned their refuse.
Ecclesiasticus 44:16-20
6 Rich men in virtue, studying beautifulness: living at peace in their houses. 7 All these have gained glory in their generations, and were praised in their days. 8 They that were born of them have left a name behind them, that their praises might be related: 9 And there are some, of whom there is no memorial: who are perished, as if they had never been: and are become as if they had never been born, and their children with them. 10 But these were men of mercy, whose godly deeds have not failed:
6 Rich men in virtue, studying beautifulness: living at peace in their houses. 7 All these have gained glory in their generations, and were praised in their days. 8 They that were born of them have left a name behind them, that their praises might be related: 9 And there are some, of whom there is no memorial: who are perished, as if they had never been: and are become as if they had never been born, and their children with them. 10 But these were men of mercy, whose godly deeds have not failed: