This thread question is for those who actually claim to believe God loves unrepentant sinners who are in hell.
In what way do you believe God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
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R u saying God didnt show us the ultimate sign of love? The bible says no greater love then this to lay your life down for your brother. Yet he gave his life for the whole world. He did for us for our sins its not him that does not love us. It people that reject/hate him that end up in Hell.
No it is a bait question he is trolling trying to get responces
He means for people who believe God loves the people in hell and how does he show that love to them that are already in hell
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Daisy2
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God cant show his love for people that end up in Hell but he give us every chance before death to repent. Hell is the Ultimate separation from God. The Bible talks about a vast revene between lazareth and the rich man so even if he wanted to there is a separation of some sort between them and us. It is a terrible price to pay for this very short life then an eternity in Hell where there is no love, no peace, and no friends. where there is weeping and gushing of teath.
God is love. If He stops loving sinners, He ceases to be God.
Your question is insulting. People are in hell because of their own decisions. God is not obliged to save anyone. He did not make anyone sin. I do not believe that there are any sinners who do not regret their decisiosn. That's part of their torment. They realise that they had an opportunity in this life and refused to accept it. They have eternity to think about that. The trouble is that it is too late.
It's like Esau, "For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected. He could find no ground for repentance, though he sought the blessing with tears." Hebrews 12:17. People need to take God seriously. You know, repent now and beat the rush on judgement day.
What is your definition / interpretation of hell please ? What is hell like ? R people in hell in a conscious / alive state ? Or r they in an unconscious / dead state ? What happens in hell ? Before I can even try to answer I need to know your definition of hell and if u can back up your understanding with plenty of scriptural references that would b good please
.Unrepentant sinners go to hell which is a place/state of extreme torment for all eternity.What is your definition / interpretation of hell please ? What is hell like ? R people in hell in a conscious / alive state ? Or r they in an unconscious / dead state ? What happens in hell ? Before I can even try to answer I need to know your definition of hell and if u can back up your understanding with plenty of scriptural references that would b good please
It is indeed a bait question. You have a pattern of them, carefully choosing your words and responding critically to everyone. You demonstrate a poor understanding of Scripture, in the same way the Pharisees did. You have much to learn.
I completely agree he may not see it but we know hiss pattern well and he indeed does have a lot to learn
Do you believe God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
Do you believe God specifically shows his love for unrepentant sinners who are in hell?
This is not a bait question. This question is for those who claim to believe God loves unrepentant sinners who are in hell.
A problematic issue is reconciling God’s power and love with the fact of evil and its consequence. A person—even a theist—might think that God would not permit evil, suffering and hell to exist. People who are mystified by evil and repulsed by its punishment do not realize that the essential aspect of being a human rather than a robot or subhuman creature is moral free will (MFW), which is what enables a person to experience love and meaning. This is what makes humans different from animals, whose behavior is governed mainly by instinct. This is what it means to be created in God’s image (GN 1:26-27; robot or responsible)?
God could not force people to return His love without abrogating their humanity. If God were to zap ungodly souls, it would be tantamount to forcing conversions at gunpoint, which would not be free and genuine. If God were to prevent people from behaving hatefully, then He would need to prevent them from thinking evilly, which would make human souls programmed automatons.
Thus, for reasons we may understand only sufficiently rather than completely, God designed reality so that experiencing His presence is less than compelling, so that even Jesus (God the Son) on the cross cried out “My God [the Father], why have you forsaken [taken God the Spirit from] me?” (MT 27:46, PS 51:11) This phenomenon is sometimes called “distanciation”, because we experience God as distant from us and “unknown” (ACTS 17:23), even though He is close or immanent, “for in Him we live and move and have our being” (ACTS 17:28). Distanciation is not forsaken.
MFW only exists when there is the possibility of choosing between two qualitatively opposite moral options that we call good and evil. These options are opposites because of essentially different consequences for choosing them. Choosing good results in blessing, life and heaven; and choosing evil results in cursing, death and hell (DT 30:19). This is why hell as well as heaven exists. It is the just consequence for choosing evil rather than God. The Spirit of God is good: love, peace and joy (GL 5:22-23). Therefore, whoever rejects the Lord is spiritually separated from Him (IS 59:2) and thereby chooses the evil or satanic spirit of hatred, strife and misery and reaps the just consequence called “hell” in the afterlife (GL 6:7-9, HB 9:27-28). These options were presented by Moses to the Israelites (DT 30:19), and Jesus referred to this fundamental choice in terms of a fish or egg versus a snake or scorpion (LK 11:11-13). Life… or Curse? (GN 3:24, RV 22:1-2)
God created theoretical evil or the possibility of rejecting Him as an option that actualizes MFW/free human personality. As such it is necessary and even good (GN 1:31). Of course, it was wrong for Satan (1JN 3:8) and humanity (RM 5:12) to make evil actual by choosing to Sin or reject Faith in God’s Lordship. Sin: ignoring God/God’s Word.
God loves a cheerful giver (2CR 9:7), which means He desires people to cooperate with Him happily because of love and gratitude for His grace rather than to cower before Him because of fear of hell. Love must be evoked; it cannot be coerced. And again, when souls sin or do NOT choose to love God freely, it is perfectly just (loving and logical) for them to reap the appropriate consequence (GL 6:7-9) or hell.
Such evil people punish/torture themselves by experiencing delayed karma, just as those who experience appropriate justice during this earthly existence also punish themselves or reap what they have sown and send themselves to jail. This view makes souls responsible for breaking the rules rather than blaming evil on the judges (or Judge) who enforce the rules. The purpose of earthly punishment is to promote repentance, but the reason for retribution in hell is to attain justice. It is difficult to imagine, but somehow even someone as evil as Hitler will receive perfect justice, perhaps experiencing the agony of the millions of deaths he caused in accordance with the principal of “eye for eye” (MT 5:38), after which their souls are destroyed forever (per JN 17:12, RM 9:22, GL 6:8, PHP 3:19, 2THS 1:9, 2PT 3:7 & RV 20:13-14).
He doesn't answer your questions because he knows how you operate and doesn't fall for itSince you don't answer many of my questions, I believe I am the one teaching you.
