If You Were to Close Your CC Account and Come Back as Another Name, What Would Be the Reasons Why?

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Well, in an odd sense, I am happy that I got involved in this thread. If nothing else, I learned some things here today. Not pleasant things, but I will definitely take something away from this conversation.

I will also leave with a greater appreciation that the one who formed the eye, and sees all things, and that the one who formed the ear, and hears all things, will ultimately be my Judge.
Hi Tom,

Christians don't have to get along with each other some are called to be alone. The bible says and nothing shall offend thee. If they have reprimand you its for your good. It might be a good idea to ask God like what seoulsearch did. Thinking you are right every time and not considering other sides is not good.
 
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If they have reprimand you its for your good.
Only if it is true.
It might be a good idea to ask God like what seoulsearch did.
I bring everything before the Lord. Also, just because somebody claims that God told them something, whether me, her, or anybody else, this does not automatically mean that it is true. All sorts of people claim to hear from God.
Thinking you are right every time and not considering other sides is not good.
I agree, but I have never been one to think that I am right all of the time. My account will be closed momentarily, but I can assure you that my past posting histories include many public apologies from me. Also, I have plainly admitted my wrongs in this particular situation more than once on this very thread.

Anyhow, I wish you the best.
 

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No.

I truly am happy that I got involved in this thread though. As I said earlier, I will definitely take something away from it.
Thanks for answering. I was afraid I was going to have to use enhanced interrogation techniques and make you pinky promise.
 
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@HopeinHim98I see that you deleted your post. Hopefully, that is because God convicted you of lying.
No it was 100% truly how I felt. I didn't want everything to get brought up here that's why I deleted it. But oh well, everything will all come out one day anyway so it's okay.

Saying that she deleted her post because "hopefully God convicted her of lying" is about the most profound example of spiritual gaslighting I have ever seen.

To the audience out there, if someone is doing this to you, please, get help.

@HopeinHim98, @Snackersmom, @Magenta, thank you ladies for being brave enough to post.

I figured if I was the only one answering all this, people would just figure I was crazy or trying to embark on some kind of personal smear campaign, but I'm doing this to try to give others hope and an example of how to stand up for themselves, too.

I am thankful to those courageous enough to share.

I have had at least 4 women come to me personally in PM about all of these exact things in the years that Live has been here. I'll call him Live because I don't know what his actual name is. I know he said Tom, but I was actually surprised when he used the name Tom -- because some of the other ladies who have confided in me mentioned him by a different name. So, I honestly don't know what the truth is.

Of the at least 4 women who have directly PM'ed me, at least 3 others were mentioned who reported having the exact same experience. I apologize first hand to anyone who feels let down by me sharing this, and I understand if you are angry with me, but please know it's not without a lot of inner struggle. I take it as an honor when someone confides in me and I certainly don't ever want to betray that.

I have prayed and agonized many nights over the years about whether I could say anything or help in this situation. For anyone going through something similar to what's described in these posts, please don't be afraid to reach out to RoboOp or OnceFallen. You could also contact a CC member you trust.

If you don't have PM abilities, you might be able to write a message on that person's profile, or tag that person in a thread and ask them to contact you. Make the message about something completely unrelated -- "Seoulsearch, can I tell you about my Bible class today? I wanted to get your opinion on something..." so that no one has to know what it's about.

Now, the solution might very well be putting someone on Ignore and that might be the end of it.

I have stated this many times, but the reason I don't use Ignore myself is because it's impossible to write threads and fully participate in them if you can't see what everyone answers.

And as I've said, for anyone who feels I'm being unfair and handling this improperly, I can understand your perspective. To the ladies who have confided in me, if this disappoints you, I sincerely apologize.

But I am putting all of this out in the open with the hope that it might help others guard themselves and know what to do if they find themselves in a situation they're not comfortable with.

As Christians, it's hard, because we want to help. We feel as if we're failing when someone tells us we're not accepting certain things they want us to accept. And they are more than quick to pounce on how "un-Christian" we are being for not doing so.

Many years ago, a young woman in her 20's wrote me and said, "One thing I appreciate in the threads is that if someone is going after you, you don't back down. That's taught me a lot about boundaries, and how to stand up for myself."

For anyone out there who has someone who identifies as a Christian and is trying to overstep your boundaries, please, don't be afraid to stand up for yourself, and don't be afraid to get help, no matter how much they say they're doing it in the name of the Lord.
 
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Me too, and that certainly has an application here. In other words, whereas my detractors seek to portray me as someone who plots my exit while knowing that I will return one day, nothing could be further from the truth. Even with the people that I used to minister to, I honestly felt as if I had done all that I could do for them when I left, but it was by God's promptings that I returned to check up on them at times. I cannot speak for anybody else here, but I truly seek to obey God. Do I miss him at times? Unfortunately, yes, but my heart is always towards him AND PEOPLE. I added "and people" because if we truly love God, then we are going to love people as well.
I can't tell you what to do, but when you're at an impasse, the only thing left to do is move on.

The women you had correspondence with have moved on in their faith without you. Respect their wishes and don't look back.
 
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I bring everything before the Lord. Also, just because somebody claims that God told them something, whether me, her, or anybody else, this does not automatically mean that it is true. All sorts of people claim to hear from God.
Yes.

Exactly.

You claim to hear from God.

I claim to hear from God.

Does God tell people different things? I always wonder this myself. Would God tell some of His people to vote for side X, and others of his people to vote side Y?

I'm not sure.

I encourage you to stick with what you feel God has told you, as I will certainly do the same with what I believe He has told me.
 
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@HopeinHim98, @Snackersmom, @Magenta, thank you ladies for being brave enough to post.
You are welcome. I hope you know I do not doubt your integrity at all... not even one iota.

I also realize this whole thing must have been somewhat of an ordeal for you, and I am
sorry for that. You are an incredibly courageous person and a good example for us all.
 
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The women you had correspondence with have moved on in their faith without you. Respect their wishes and don't look back.
I truly do appreciate you as a brother in Christ, but I expected better from you than this comment. I was never a part of Seoul's or Snacker's faith journeys to begin with. I did have some correspondence with HopeinHim98 two years ago on the topic of whether or not a woman needs to wear a veil, but that was the direct result of one of her friends mocking her for wearing one...if I recall correctly. Also, you are only hearing one side of the story. Personally, I feel no need to defend myself because, as I said before, God knows who said and did what.
 
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You are welcome. I hope you know I do not doubt your integrity at all... not even one iota. I also realize this whole thing must have been somewhat of an ordeal for you, and I am sorry for that. You are an incredibly courageous person and a good example for us all.
I am ever-grateful for the kindness you've shown to me over the years, Lady Magenta.

Most especially when one writes threads, one can expect a bit of pushback. It just comes with the territory, and I must not mind it that much, because I keep on writing! :)

In my early days, when people would argue with me, I'd say, "Well, don't take it up with me, take it up with God!" because that's what I'd seen many people here do.

But God convicted me of that. And He told me, this is what I want you to do instead.

Ever since then, I try to encourage the person to go to God about everything they think I'm doing wrong, everything they think is wrong about me, and everything they don't like about me or what I'm doing.

This puts it in God's hands. Whatever He thinks I'm doing wrong, He certainly won't be shy in confronting me about it, so it's going to shape me into something more to God's will either way. And if He doesn't think I'm doing anything wrong in that area, He'll start working on me with the next thing in line.

But what a person who wants to correct me might not understand is that God might not have appointed them to Lord over my spiritual life themselves.

I'm fortunate to have true friends who have absolutely no qualms about getting up in my face over what we disagree with about, and I believe that God told me to take the most serious criticisms from them. There have been NUMEROUS times when someone in that group will say, "I think you worded such-and-such a little too harshly; I think you need to adjust how you're coming across; I think you're coming at things with too much of a personal bias."

These are people who have flown and driven across the country to visit, offered everything they could to help when myself or my family have been in need, and would take me in without question if I showed up on their doorstep without a dime.

If someone has bothered to work up that level of friendship with me -- yes, indeed, I am willing to listen to anything and everything they say, even when when it hurts.
 
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I truly do appreciate you as a brother in Christ, but I expected better from you than this comment. I was never a part of Seoul's or Snacker's faith journeys to begin with. I did have some correspondence with HopeinHim98 two years ago on the topic of whether or not a woman needs to wear a veil, but that was a direct result of one of her friends mocking her for wearing one...if I recall correctly. Also, you are only hearing one side of the story. Personally, I feel no need to defend myself because, as I said before, God knows who said and did what.
I never implied that you were a part of their journey, but it should be self-evident that nobody wants to keep going over old ground.
 

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Ever since then, I try to encourage the person to go to God about everything they think I'm doing wrong, everything they think is wrong about me, and everything they don't like about me or what I'm doing.

This puts it in God's hands. Whatever He thinks I'm doing wrong, He certainly won't be shy in confronting me about it, so it's going to shape me into something more to God's will either way. And if He doesn't think I'm doing anything wrong in that area, He'll start working on me with the next thing in line.
You can tell him all about
How weak I am
And pray that he'll strengthen me
Yeah you can talk about me
Anytime you want to
But please do it on your knees

- The Downings
 

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Known to exploit others for personal gain, psychopaths are skilled at manipulating and deceiving others to achieve
their goals, often using charm and charisma to gain trust and control. They often have an inflated sense of self-
importance and entitlement, believing they are superior to others, but they lack empathy and emotional capacity.
Well I must say ... Nailed it and it applies.
Predatory can be added to the list among other things.

 
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I truly do appreciate you as a brother in Christ, but I expected better from you than this comment. I was never a part of Seoul's or Snacker's faith journeys to begin with. I did have some correspondence with HopeinHim98 two years ago on the topic of whether or not a woman needs to wear a veil, but that was the direct result of one of her friends mocking her for wearing one...if I recall correctly. Also, you are only hearing one side of the story. Personally, I feel no need to defend myself because, as I said before, God knows who said and did what.

This. Is. Exactly. The. Pattern. that started with me, and that I have heard about repeatedly.

*Compliment or expression of appreciation* immediately followed by, "but I expected better from you... but I'm disappointed that you..."

Then cue up multiple, drawn-out posts such as the ones given throughout this thread of what you did that was so subpar or disappointing, and why you're wrong for doing so, all according to the Christian principles (with "truths of Scripture" liberally thrown in as a way of saying, "Scripture says all of this so you have no ground to stand -- so don't even try arguing back.")

I know some will disagree, but I consider this spiritual abuse.

And it's something I constantly try to warn singles about, because they are usually the most vulnerable.

I don't recall "Tom" saying this to me, but I know in some church settings or with other people, if you protest anything they say, they will pull out the passage that says, "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry." (1 Samuel 15:23.)

Please, do not fall for this.
 
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To the ladies who have been brave enough to share, thank you.

I appreciate not looking like the only one -- or like I'm just making things up.