If You Were to Close Your CC Account and Come Back as Another Name, What Would Be the Reasons Why?

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seoulsearch

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I’m not putting any profile picture in because I don’t want my old hag face to remain here if I’m getting banned lol.
You are far from an old hag, lol. :LOL::D:giggle:
 

Kainos

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I’m not putting any profile picture in because I don’t want my old hag face to remain here if I’m getting banned lol.
Banned? Your participation in the Hagmaxxing thread merited an honorary subscription! :LOL:
 

Going_Nowhere

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Not to toot my own horn, but I like my username. I don't think it needs to be changed or improved. 😌


 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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#48
I would come back as AMillionWaysToMakeCoffee but everyone would know right away.
I still have that AeroPress you suggested on my Amazon wish list, Oh Wise Coffee Guru -- I just haven't quite pulled the trigger yet. :)
 

Kainos

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#50
Say, would you like to share just one of those ways to make coffee?😂
When someone with a profile picture from The Princess Bride has the flair for making coffee a million ways, a measure of Iocaine powder will be in the mix somewhere:
 
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Who is better equipped to answer your question than someone who has had several different accounts here over the years, but never more than one at the same time?

Hi, Seoul.

It is me. Tom.

Between the years of 2021-2023, I had three different accounts here (but only one at a time) when I posted under the usernames of “Live4Him,” “Live4Him2,” and “Live4Him3.” Obviously, with consecutive usernames like those, there was absolutely no intent on my part to deceive anybody or to in any way hide my true identity. I ultimately asked to have all three of those accounts deactivated, and it was always for the same reason:

In the public forums, and especially in the BDF, I was just wasting my time or just spinning my wheels. Seeing how Christians are called to redeem the time wisely, I left whenever I felt that I was no longer doing the same.

At the same time, however, I was always a paying member here, and I spent the bulk of my time engaging in private conversations with different people. My normal modus operandi was to hang out around the threads where new members introduced themselves and the “Prayer Requests” threads. If I saw that a new member’s spiritual status said “unsure,” then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help to lead them to Christ. Also, if a problem of a personal nature was mentioned either there or in the “Prayer Requests” threads, then I again reached out to people privately because I felt that there might be a better chance of someone opening up privately as opposed to publicly. There were also quite a few times when I privately contacted members who were asking questions in the BDF. As I trust we would all agree, the BDF is basically a hotbed of strife and contention, so if I saw someone there who I felt was sincerely looking for help, then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help them in a strife-free environment.

Although most of my attempts to help people privately were ignored or turned down, over the years, I did have the opportunity to minister to quite a few people here via private messages. Some of those private conversations branched out to email conversations, phone calls, and even in-depth Bible studies.

Knowing a little bit about you and your own heart, I think that it will interest you to know that there are/have been some people here who have been through HORRIFIC SITUATIONS in life that are not regularly addressed in a “church” setting or a public forum. For example, I spent years here, under two different usernames (at different times), trying my best to help a female member who used to post here by reaching out to her via private messages. In her case, she had been lured/manipulated into a lifestyle of being a sex slave through a crafty perversion of scripture by people who claimed to be Christians. As you might imagine, that experience, which continued over the course of many years, totally ruined her psyche and her life, and it also greatly negatively affected the child she later had (without even knowing who the father is).

Anyhow, my intended point is that just because somebody posts here under different usernames at different times, this does not necessarily mean that their intentions are evil or deceptive in nature. I know that my intentions never were.

After my three runs under the “Live4Him” usernames, I did briefly reappear here at different times, and under different usernames, but my motivations for coming back here were always the same, and so were my motivations for ultimately deactivating those accounts. Also, I never deactivated an account in order to immediately open up another account here under a different username. In other words, when I left, I left. Furthermore, when I engaged with some members here via private messages who might have encountered me when I posted under one of my “Live4Him” usernames, I always (with one exception) told them who I was. I also never fudged any details about my life on my profile pages, nor did I ever utter a single falsehood about myself in any of my posts. I did, however, conduct an experiment of my own which might be of some interest to you.

While posting under my “Live4Him” usernames, I made quite a few enemies here, and I will take partial blame for that. For example, there were times when I probably crossed the line of contending for the faith and wound up on the side of plain old contention. Normally, if not always, I did offer public apologies for that, but there were definitely quite a few people here who did not like me. I also ticked some people off with my weird sense of humor that I have since eradicated from my life. In fact, I believe that my humor caused one new member here to leave, and I still grieve over that very strong possibility. Furthermore, there were several times when poorly worded posts of mine, which were normally made in haste, were totally misinterpreted, and I basically got my head torn off for making them. As I used to say when I posted here, I am not a fan of communicating with people via written text. Not only can tone be read into a post where it was never truly intended, but it is also so easy to misconstrue what somebody else is actually trying to say. To that point, I have admittedly been guilty of the same myself at times, so I am not trying to just point the finger at others.

What does any of this have to do with an experiment?

Well, there were also many times when I perceived that it was not really “me” who people did not like, but rather certain biblical truths that I shared that ticked them off. Interestingly, but not surprisingly, when I came back under different usernames, and when I refrained from talking about certain biblical topics, I found that many of my previous enemies were now being quite friendly with me. How friendly? So friendly that several of my female enemies (I had a lot of male enemies as well) began flirting with me either publicly, or privately (many times), or both. Anyhow, I mention this not because I fancy myself to be any sort of gift to women (far from it), but simply to say that if any members here dislike other members here, then it might be good to introspectively examine the reasons for that before God.

In closing, I sometimes come back here (and to other forums I have posted on) to copy something from a post that I made in order to use it elsewhere. When I saw the question in your thread’s title, I registered here solely for the purpose of answering it from one Christian man’s perspective. Now, I devote my free time to writing. Presently, I am writing a Christian themed book that, if it is eventually published, might help people to find salvation through Christ.

I could say so much more, but I will end by simply saying that I sincerely hope that all of you are doing well. If I offended any of you in the past because my behavior did not reflect the behavior of Christ, then I truly am sorry. At the same time, if I offended any of you in the past by presenting biblical truths that you did not like, then I offer no apologies for that whatsoever. Either way, I hope that we all meet on the other side someday.

Farewell.

StillLiving4Him
 
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Who is better equipped to answer your question than someone who has had several different accounts here over the years, but never more than one at the same time?

Hi, Seoul.

It is me. Tom.

Between the years of 2021-2023, I had three different accounts here (but only one at a time) when I posted under the usernames of “Live4Him,” “Live4Him2,” and “Live4Him3.” Obviously, with consecutive usernames like those, there was absolutely no intent on my part to deceive anybody or to in any way hide my true identity. I ultimately asked to have all three of those accounts deactivated, and it was always for the same reason:

In the public forums, and especially in the BDF, I was just wasting my time or just spinning my wheels. Seeing how Christians are called to redeem the time wisely, I left whenever I felt that I was no longer doing the same.

At the same time, however, I was always a paying member here, and I spent the bulk of my time engaging in private conversations with different people. My normal modus operandi was to hang out around the threads where new members introduced themselves and the “Prayer Requests” threads. If I saw that a new member’s spiritual status said “unsure,” then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help to lead them to Christ. Also, if a problem of a personal nature was mentioned either there or in the “Prayer Requests” threads, then I again reached out to people privately because I felt that there might be a better chance of someone opening up privately as opposed to publicly. There were also quite a few times when I privately contacted members who were asking questions in the BDF. As I trust we would all agree, the BDF is basically a hotbed of strife and contention, so if I saw someone there who I felt was sincerely looking for help, then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help them in a strife-free environment.

Although most of my attempts to help people privately were ignored or turned down, over the years, I did have the opportunity to minister to quite a few people here via private messages. Some of those private conversations branched out to email conversations, phone calls, and even in-depth Bible studies.

Knowing a little bit about you and your own heart, I think that it will interest you to know that there are/have been some people here who have been through HORRIFIC SITUATIONS in life that are not regularly addressed in a “church” setting or a public forum. For example, I spent years here, under two different usernames (at different times), trying my best to help a female member who used to post here by reaching out to her via private messages. In her case, she had been lured/manipulated into a lifestyle of being a sex slave through a crafty perversion of scripture by people who claimed to be Christians. As you might imagine, that experience, which continued over the course of many years, totally ruined her psyche and her life, and it also greatly negatively affected the child she later had (without even knowing who the father is).

Anyhow, my intended point is that just because somebody posts here under different usernames at different times, this does not necessarily mean that their intentions are evil or deceptive in nature. I know that my intentions never were.

After my three runs under the “Live4Him” usernames, I did briefly reappear here at different times, and under different usernames, but my motivations for coming back here were always the same, and so were my motivations for ultimately deactivating those accounts. Also, I never deactivated an account in order to immediately open up another account here under a different username. In other words, when I left, I left. Furthermore, when I engaged with some members here via private messages who might have encountered me when I posted under one of my “Live4Him” usernames, I always (with one exception) told them who I was. I also never fudged any details about my life on my profile pages, nor did I ever utter a single falsehood about myself in any of my posts. I did, however, conduct an experiment of my own which might be of some interest to you.

While posting under my “Live4Him” usernames, I made quite a few enemies here, and I will take partial blame for that. For example, there were times when I probably crossed the line of contending for the faith and wound up on the side of plain old contention. Normally, if not always, I did offer public apologies for that, but there were definitely quite a few people here who did not like me. I also ticked some people off with my weird sense of humor that I have since eradicated from my life. In fact, I believe that my humor caused one new member here to leave, and I still grieve over that very strong possibility. Furthermore, there were several times when poorly worded posts of mine, which were normally made in haste, were totally misinterpreted, and I basically got my head torn off for making them. As I used to say when I posted here, I am not a fan of communicating with people via written text. Not only can tone be read into a post where it was never truly intended, but it is also so easy to misconstrue what somebody else is actually trying to say. To that point, I have admittedly been guilty of the same myself at times, so I am not trying to just point the finger at others.

What does any of this have to do with an experiment?

Well, there were also many times when I perceived that it was not really “me” who people did not like, but rather certain biblical truths that I shared that ticked them off. Interestingly, but not surprisingly, when I came back under different usernames, and when I refrained from talking about certain biblical topics, I found that many of my previous enemies were now being quite friendly with me. How friendly? So friendly that several of my female enemies (I had a lot of male enemies as well) began flirting with me either publicly, or privately (many times), or both. Anyhow, I mention this not because I fancy myself to be any sort of gift to women (far from it), but simply to say that if any members here dislike other members here, then it might be good to introspectively examine the reasons for that before God.

In closing, I sometimes come back here (and to other forums I have posted on) to copy something from a post that I made in order to use it elsewhere. When I saw the question in your thread’s title, I registered here solely for the purpose of answering it from one Christian man’s perspective. Now, I devote my free time to writing. Presently, I am writing a Christian themed book that, if it is eventually published, might help people to find salvation through Christ.

I could say so much more, but I will end by simply saying that I sincerely hope that all of you are doing well. If I offended any of you in the past because my behavior did not reflect the behavior of Christ, then I truly am sorry. At the same time, if I offended any of you in the past by presenting biblical truths that you did not like, then I offer no apologies for that whatsoever. Either way, I hope that we all meet on the other side someday.

Farewell.

StillLiving4Him
Hello, Living.

For the record, this thread wasn't meant for anyone specifically. Lynx was teasing me the other day about Deja View -- when thread topics are repeated. Years ago, a mod said I was up to writing 400 threads here; I would guess it's at least 1000 by now -- I confess, I can't keep up that pace without a few repeats, so yes, this topic comes up on a regular basis.

But to be honest, I was 99% sure you'd post on this thread at some time. Whenever I bring up this topic, we get people who have been here under a few names. And to be honest, when I saw your last 2 names here, I was 99.9% sure you'd be reading along.

Thank you for taking the time to share.

Welcome back.
 
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But to be honest, I was 99% sure you'd post on this thread at some time.
Then you must be a prophetess of sorts. I say that because I honestly (You lie, you fry) had no intention of ever posting on this forum again. Instead, I saw this thread's title when I am came here yesterday for a different reason, and I figured that I would attempt to not only answer your question because I totally matched the description, but to also bring final closure to my participation here.

Before I go, I do have a favor to ask of you. You will probably decline my request, and I certainly understand, and do not blame you, if you do. I was wondering if you could send me a private message so I could explain something to you before leaving? If not, then, again, I understand. Either way, I wish you nothing but God's best in this life and eternal life in the world to come.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
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#54
Who is better equipped to answer your question than someone who has had several different accounts here over the years, but never more than one at the same time?

Hi, Seoul.

It is me. Tom.

Between the years of 2021-2023, I had three different accounts here (but only one at a time) when I posted under the usernames of “Live4Him,” “Live4Him2,” and “Live4Him3.” Obviously, with consecutive usernames like those, there was absolutely no intent on my part to deceive anybody or to in any way hide my true identity. I ultimately asked to have all three of those accounts deactivated, and it was always for the same reason:

In the public forums, and especially in the BDF, I was just wasting my time or just spinning my wheels. Seeing how Christians are called to redeem the time wisely, I left whenever I felt that I was no longer doing the same.

At the same time, however, I was always a paying member here, and I spent the bulk of my time engaging in private conversations with different people. My normal modus operandi was to hang out around the threads where new members introduced themselves and the “Prayer Requests” threads. If I saw that a new member’s spiritual status said “unsure,” then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help to lead them to Christ. Also, if a problem of a personal nature was mentioned either there or in the “Prayer Requests” threads, then I again reached out to people privately because I felt that there might be a better chance of someone opening up privately as opposed to publicly. There were also quite a few times when I privately contacted members who were asking questions in the BDF. As I trust we would all agree, the BDF is basically a hotbed of strife and contention, so if I saw someone there who I felt was sincerely looking for help, then I reached out to them privately to hopefully help them in a strife-free environment.

Although most of my attempts to help people privately were ignored or turned down, over the years, I did have the opportunity to minister to quite a few people here via private messages. Some of those private conversations branched out to email conversations, phone calls, and even in-depth Bible studies.

Knowing a little bit about you and your own heart, I think that it will interest you to know that there are/have been some people here who have been through HORRIFIC SITUATIONS in life that are not regularly addressed in a “church” setting or a public forum. For example, I spent years here, under two different usernames (at different times), trying my best to help a female member who used to post here by reaching out to her via private messages. In her case, she had been lured/manipulated into a lifestyle of being a sex slave through a crafty perversion of scripture by people who claimed to be Christians. As you might imagine, that experience, which continued over the course of many years, totally ruined her psyche and her life, and it also greatly negatively affected the child she later had (without even knowing who the father is).

Anyhow, my intended point is that just because somebody posts here under different usernames at different times, this does not necessarily mean that their intentions are evil or deceptive in nature. I know that my intentions never were.

After my three runs under the “Live4Him” usernames, I did briefly reappear here at different times, and under different usernames, but my motivations for coming back here were always the same, and so were my motivations for ultimately deactivating those accounts. Also, I never deactivated an account in order to immediately open up another account here under a different username. In other words, when I left, I left. Furthermore, when I engaged with some members here via private messages who might have encountered me when I posted under one of my “Live4Him” usernames, I always (with one exception) told them who I was. I also never fudged any details about my life on my profile pages, nor did I ever utter a single falsehood about myself in any of my posts. I did, however, conduct an experiment of my own which might be of some interest to you.

While posting under my “Live4Him” usernames, I made quite a few enemies here, and I will take partial blame for that. For example, there were times when I probably crossed the line of contending for the faith and wound up on the side of plain old contention. Normally, if not always, I did offer public apologies for that, but there were definitely quite a few people here who did not like me. I also ticked some people off with my weird sense of humor that I have since eradicated from my life. In fact, I believe that my humor caused one new member here to leave, and I still grieve over that very strong possibility. Furthermore, there were several times when poorly worded posts of mine, which were normally made in haste, were totally misinterpreted, and I basically got my head torn off for making them. As I used to say when I posted here, I am not a fan of communicating with people via written text. Not only can tone be read into a post where it was never truly intended, but it is also so easy to misconstrue what somebody else is actually trying to say. To that point, I have admittedly been guilty of the same myself at times, so I am not trying to just point the finger at others.

What does any of this have to do with an experiment?

Well, there were also many times when I perceived that it was not really “me” who people did not like, but rather certain biblical truths that I shared that ticked them off. Interestingly, but not surprisingly, when I came back under different usernames, and when I refrained from talking about certain biblical topics, I found that many of my previous enemies were now being quite friendly with me. How friendly? So friendly that several of my female enemies (I had a lot of male enemies as well) began flirting with me either publicly, or privately (many times), or both. Anyhow, I mention this not because I fancy myself to be any sort of gift to women (far from it), but simply to say that if any members here dislike other members here, then it might be good to introspectively examine the reasons for that before God.

In closing, I sometimes come back here (and to other forums I have posted on) to copy something from a post that I made in order to use it elsewhere. When I saw the question in your thread’s title, I registered here solely for the purpose of answering it from one Christian man’s perspective. Now, I devote my free time to writing. Presently, I am writing a Christian themed book that, if it is eventually published, might help people to find salvation through Christ.

I could say so much more, but I will end by simply saying that I sincerely hope that all of you are doing well. If I offended any of you in the past because my behavior did not reflect the behavior of Christ, then I truly am sorry. At the same time, if I offended any of you in the past by presenting biblical truths that you did not like, then I offer no apologies for that whatsoever. Either way, I hope that we all meet on the other side someday.

Farewell.

StillLiving4Him
Believe me, bro, there was never any doubt when you returned to this forum. It has always been very evident, whatever the nickname was.
 
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Believe me, bro, there was never any doubt when you returned to this forum. It has always been very evident, whatever the nickname was.
I know that is not true in an overall sense, and I already stated one reason why in my initial response here. Again, many people who were my avowed enemies during my "Live4Him" runs suddenly became my friends under new usernames that I used. Obviously, there was some doubt in their minds, and, quite frankly, that was deliberate on my part. You (and others) might not agree with this analogy, but I considered Jesus' encounter with the two men on the road to Emmaus when choosing to come back under different usernames.

In Jesus' case, he hid his identity from those two men in order to expose something that was in their hearts. Of course, his intent was not evil, but rather his intent was to ultimately help them.

In my case, my motivations were the same. In other words, I honestly believed that certain members here really had a beef with Jesus more than with me, and that proved to be true. Why did I engage in such an experiment? To somehow think evil of these people? No, not at all. Rather, I regularly prayed for such people, and I also sought to bridge the gap between us even though they did not know who they were conversing with.

Ultimately, God wants us to love our neighbors, and even our enemies. We are also instructed to live peaceably with all men as much as we possibly can.

Anyhow, if I had wanted to totally throw people off of my tracks in some sort of deceptive manner, then I could have easily changed my very-recognizable posting style, but I obviously never did. Whatever anybody here might think of me, Christ's opinion, as our ultimate Judge, is the only opinion which will ultimately matter in the end, and he knows what my true intentions were here.

Were there times when I crossed the line or when my behavior was not truly reflective of Christ?

I have already admitted that there were, and I have also sincerely apologized for the same.

Anyhow, if possible, I would like to privately clarify one thing with Seoul before leaving, so I will stick around briefly to see whether or not I can do the same.
 
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Then you must be a prophetess of sorts. I say that because I honestly (You lie, you fry) had no intention of ever posting on this forum again. Instead, I saw this thread's title when I am came here yesterday for a different reason, and I figured that I would attempt to not only answer your question because I totally matched the description, but to also bring final closure to my participation here.

Before I go, I do have a favor to ask of you. You will probably decline my request, and I certainly understand, and do not blame you, if you do. I was wondering if you could send me a private message so I could explain something to you before leaving? If not, then, again, I understand. Either way, I wish you nothing but God's best in this life and eternal life in the world to come.
It's interesting that you mention this. I don't think I'm a prophetess, but I was told at a church that I have "prophetic tendencies," so thank you for that. I never really pursued it though, because many of the people I've met who claim to be prophets think they somehow have an edge with God over everyone else, therefore, claim you MUST listen to them because they think they're ALWAYS speaking for God -- and that's not who I want to be.

As for guessing people will be back, I just see it as noticing patterns. From the time I came here in 2009, I've noticed the same patterns. People who like posting here all the time just tend to stay here, in one form or another. And when they leave or disappear, it's not long before "someone else" sounding very much like them shows up -- so it's just a matter of lining up the blocks. Block A - the person is here posting most every day. Block B - said person, for whatever reason, leaves or stops posting. Block C - "New Person" shows up, saying all the same things, and in the same way, the previous poster did. And it all lines up.

The draw here is too strong for them -- they can't stay away, because they crave the interaction.

Nothing prophetic about that, just common sense. :)

As for the PM, I will have to decline, but thank you. Whatever name you appear under here, if you should rejoin in the future, please keep any contact with me on the threads.

Under one of your Living4Him names, you posted a long list of critiques of me, saying that my best course of action would be to follow all of your instructions -- which is perfectly fine. This is the internet, and that's to be expected. And I only mention this because it was in the public threads -- I wouldn't bring it up if it were in private.

But you also specifically stated that you would not listen to anything I had to say in return. Again, I understand this. That's why I love writing, and that's why I write threads that are meant to be interactive -- no one is trapped here, and people can walk away or ignore whatever segments they choose. But everyone can also choose to have a voice.

In a PM, I would feel as if you would want to tell me all about your perspective, but would have no interest or value in mine. The most important thing to you would be you expressing your feelings and experience to me, which I understand, but I would have no way of sharing my side in return, because you could easily just disappear without ever hearing my side.

We disagree on many things, and that's normal -- my closest friends here and I disagree often. But they still genuinely listen to my side. You and I disagree in many areas, and we will just have to keep it at that.

I only have so much time and energy, so I'd like to keep any communication you and I have in the threads.

This way, at least I know I have a fighting chance of being heard.

May God bless you on your way, whether you stay or come back, under whatever name you choose.
 
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Under one of your Living4Him names, you posted a long list of critiques of me, saying that my best course of action would be to follow all of your instructions -- which is perfectly fine. This is the internet, and that's to be expected. And I only mention this because it was in the public threads -- I wouldn't bring it up if it were in private.

But you also specifically stated that you would not listen to anything I had to say in return. Again, I understand this. That's why I love writing, and that's why I write threads that are meant to be interactive -- no one is trapped here, and people can walk away or ignore whatever segments they choose. But everyone can also choose to have a voice.
That is not even remotely true, but that is what I had hoped to discuss with you privately. Seeing how you obviously are okay with addressing it publicly, I will try one last time to reason with you.

Admittedly, I did make a VERY POORLY WORDED post about you in the past. Also, in fairness to you, I can certainly understand why you interpreted it in the manner that you did, but, with God as my Witness (just ask him yourself), my intent was totally misconstrued. Basically, what I was attempting to say back then was this:

As I have already mentioned, I have left here every time because I felt that I was just spinning my wheels. At the same time, however, there were reasons why I stayed here as long as I did. One of those reasons, as I already stated in my initial response, was because of my private interactions with people. As important a reason as that was, it was not the only reason why I stayed. I also stayed because, at times, other people's posts ministered to me. At times, those posts were your posts. In other words, at times you would post threads that were move devoted to God's word, helping people, ministering to people, etc., etc., etc. For me, personally, I loved those types of posts. At other times, you would post on more playful topics, and, although there is absolutely nothing wrong with them, I simply prefer the other types of posts because, again, they truly ministered to me. When I made the VERY POORLY WORDED post that obviously offended you, all that I was trying to say was that, at that time, your posts about God were the only remaining things that were keeping me here. When you briefly stopped making them, I had no other reason for staying. In other words, whereas I meant my comments to be complimentary in that those types of posts ministered to me, because I so VERY POORLY WORDED it, you felt as if I was somehow condemning or judging you for your other types of posts. Again, with God as my Witness (just ask him yourself), that was never my intent.

That truly stated, that is why I did not bother to read all of your massive rebuke of me (I did read some of it). Granted, I understood why you were upset, but your rebuke was totally unwarranted in my eyes because I never really stated or meant what you were rebuking me for.

Anyhow, that is in the past, but I did not want to leave without attempting to clarify that one last time.
In a PM, I would feel as if you would want to tell me all about your perspective, but would have no interest or value in mine. The most important thing to you would be you expressing your feelings and experience to me, which I understand, but I would have no way of sharing my side in return, because you could easily just disappear without ever hearing my side.
Wow. Just wow. Obviously, you do not truly know me at all because I would never do such a thing, nor even consider doing such a thing. I already explained to you why I did not read your full rebuke in the past. If you choose to believe otherwise, then there is nothing that I can ever say to change your mind. I would simply ask, once again, that you ask God for his perspective on the matter. He knows that I am telling the truth.

Two last things:

1. I wanted to have this discussion privately because I did not want to possibly come across as being disrespectful to you, and especially not in one of your own threads. Whether you believe it or not, I am a respectful gentleman, and this massive disagreement/misunderstanding aside, I still do respect you as a person, and I want both you and your friends here to know that.

2. This is something else that I wanted to say to you privately, but I obviously have no other choices but to say it publicly or to leave it unsaid. Although it was not in a "flirting" manner, you are one of my past experiments. In other words, I did post here very briefly under a different username in the past, and I honestly cannot recall what username that was, but I do recall that I had a watchman on a tower as my avatar. Seoul, you liked me, the real me, as that poster, and you even left me a rose emoji when I deactivated that account. Anyhow, I did not reveal my identity to you at that time because I felt bad about our previous disagreement/misunderstanding, and, if nothing else, I had the brief opportunity of being your friend, and not your enemy.

I have said enough.

Out of respect for you, I will stick around to give you a chance to respond, and then I will ask the moderators here to deactivate my account.

If you remember nothing else from this post, then I hope that you will simply ask God if what I have testified here is the truth or not. Obviously, you doubt my integrity, but I trust that you know that he will never lie to you. Just ask him. I honestly never meant you any harm or disrespect. Not then, and certainly not now.

I wish you nothing but the best in Christ.
 
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That is not even remotely true, but that is what I had hoped to discuss with you privately. Seeing how you obviously are okay with addressing it publicly, I will try one last time to reason with you.

Admittedly, I did make a VERY POORLY WORDED post about you in the past. Also, in fairness to you, I can certainly understand why you interpreted it in the manner that you did, but, with God as my Witness (just ask him yourself), my intent was totally misconstrued. Basically, what I was attempting to say back then was this:

As I have already mentioned, I have left here every time because I felt that I was just spinning my wheels. At the same time, however, there were reasons why I stayed here as long as I did. One of those reasons, as I already stated in my initial response, was because of my private interactions with people. As important a reason as that was, it was not the only reason why I stayed. I also stayed because, at times, other people's posts ministered to me. At times, those posts were your posts. In other words, at times you would post threads that were move devoted to God's word, helping people, ministering to people, etc., etc., etc. For me, personally, I loved those types of posts. At other times, you would post on more playful topics, and, although there is absolutely nothing wrong with them, I simply prefer the other types of posts because, again, they truly ministered to me. When I made the VERY POORLY WORDED post that obviously offended you, all that I was trying to say was that, at that time, your posts about God were the only remaining things that were keeping me here. When you briefly stopped making them, I had no other reason for staying. In other words, whereas I meant my comments to be complimentary in that those types of posts ministered to me, because I so VERY POORLY WORDED it, you felt as if I was somehow condemning or judging you for your other types of posts. Again, with God as my Witness (just ask him yourself), that was never my intent.

That truly stated, that is why I did not bother to read all of your massive rebuke of me (I did read some of it). Granted, I understood why you were upset, but your rebuke was totally unwarranted in my eyes because I never really stated or meant what you were rebuking me for.

Anyhow, that is in the past, but I did not want to leave without attempting to clarify that one last time.
Wow. Just wow. Obviously, you do not truly know me at all because I would never do such a thing, nor even consider doing such a thing. I already explained to you why I did not read your full rebuke in the past. If you choose to believe otherwise, then there is nothing that I can ever say to change your mind. I would simply ask, once again, that you ask God for his perspective on the matter. He knows that I am telling the truth.

Two last things:

1. I wanted to have this discussion privately because I did not want to possibly come across as being disrespectful to you, and especially not in one of your own threads. Whether you believe it or not, I am a respectful gentleman, and this massive disagreement/misunderstanding aside, I still do respect you as a person, and I want both you and your friends here to know that.

2. This is something else that I wanted to say to you privately, but I obviously have no other choices but to say it publicly or to leave it unsaid. Although it was not in a "flirting" manner, you are one of my past experiments. In other words, I did post here very briefly under a different username in the past, and I honestly cannot recall what username that was, but I do recall that I had a watchman on a tower as my avatar. Seoul, you liked me, the real me, as that poster, and you even left me a rose emoji when I deactivated that account. Anyhow, I did not reveal my identity to you at that time because I felt bad about our previous disagreement/misunderstanding, and, if nothing else, I had the brief opportunity of being your friend, and not your enemy.

I have said enough.

Out of respect for you, I will stick around to give you a chance to respond, and then I will ask the moderators here to deactivate my account.

If you remember nothing else from this post, then I hope that you will simply ask God if what I have testified here is the truth or not. Obviously, you doubt my integrity, but I trust that you know that he will never lie to you. Just ask him. I honestly never meant you any harm or disrespect. Not then, and certainly not now.

I wish you nothing but the best in Christ.
Yes, Living.

I do ask God about you. I've been asking ever since you wrote the posts I referred to in my reply to you, because I asked Him what and if I needed to start working on the things you listed in your posts in which you felt you were correcting me. And I've been asking him how to handle it ever since you PM'ed me under one of your other names, though you didn't mention under that name who you were.

I've continually asked about you. And when you came back under another name (before this one but after the name you PM'ed me under,) I believe God told me, "From now on, keep all your communication with him public."

And so that's exactly why I wrote what I did, and that's what I'm choosing to do.

This has always stuck me as funny. When people correct me in the threads, they say things like this. "Why don't you ask God?" As if others don't think of that or have daily talks with God about the encounters I have. Believe me, when disagreements come up in my threads, God is the first person I ask!

Now, seeing as you asked me to PM you, perhaps you believe God has told you to talk to me privately. I'm always intrigued by cases in which God seems to tell two people the exact opposite course of action.

But I truly believe this is what God has told me, and that's what I'm going to follow.

One of the benefits some find to closing old accounts is that the posts made under them are then nearly impossible to find. But, they can be bookmarked -- and thereby saved. I have your old posts I referenced in my reply in my bookmarks, though I do have a lot of bookmarks and it would take some time to find them. But I was actually getting PM'S at that time from others who had seen your posts and were asking me about them, so I'd at least know where to start.

You can even make your bookmarks available for public view, but I've tried to make an effort to keep all of mine private.

And even if shared, I suppose it's all a matter of interpretation.

To be honest, it seems pointless to drag this out any further, as I would truly rather spend my time and energy on other things.

You've had your say, so I truly hope you've found some relief with doing so.

While I appreciate your thorough explanations, I never feel that if I take the time to write one back to you, that they are really taken to heart, and I understand that. We'll always encounter people with varying communication styles.

I'm sure you'll have the blessing of meeting many here who are much better at your style of communication than I am.

Best wishes.