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Sipsey said:
Paul wrote approximately 13 out of the 27 books in the New Testament, which accounts for roughly 29% of the total word count in the New Testament.
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How much would this picture change due the Misnomer that The NT
"started at the beginning of the gospels" when it Actually "started at
the Death Of The Testator, Jesus Christ," leaving Most of the "gospels in
the OT, eh?

Amen.
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
How much would this picture change due the Misnomer that The NT
"started at the beginning of the gospels" when it Actually "started at
the Death Of The Testator, Jesus Christ," leaving Most of the "gospels in
the OT, eh?

Amen.
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Not sure, but it could easily be calculated.
 
Magenta

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GRACE_ambassador said:
How much would this picture change due the Misnomer that The NT
"started at the beginning of the gospels" when it Actually "started at
the Death Of The Testator, Jesus Christ," leaving Most of the "gospels in
the OT, eh?

Amen.
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It is not a misnomer. What's with people making up their own definitions? .:unsure::oops::censored:
 
Nehemiah6

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Sipsey said:
Paul wrote approximately 13 out of the 27 books in the New Testament, which accounts for roughly 29% of the total word count in the New Testament.
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Here are the epistles of Paul. Not "approximately 13" but exactly 14:
  1. Romans
  2. 1 Corinthians
  3. 2 Corinthians
  4. Galatians
  5. Ephesians
  6. Philippians
  7. Colossians
  8. 1 Thessalonians
  9. 2 Thessalonians
  10. 1 Timothy
  11. 2 Timothy
  12. Titus
  13. Philemon
  14. Hebrews
14/27 = 52%

Here are the other books:
  1. Matthew
  2. Mark
  3. Luke
  4. John
  5. Acts
  6. James
  7. 1 Peter
  8. 2 Peter
  9. 1 John
  10. 2 John
  11. Jude
  12. Revelation
12/27 = 48%

So which is greater? 52% or 48%? Paul wrote OVER HALF the NT by book count.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Already refuted. Just count the epistles vs the rest of the NT.
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to have a better representation, if you do a word count for each book of the bible the O.T and the first 4 gospels make 90 % of the bible. so Paul did not write more than 7-8% probably less. I did not calculate myself but probably will.

source; https://deanebarker.net/other/bible/
 
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Nehemiah6

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vassal said:
to have a better representation, if you do a word count for each book of the bible the O.T and the first 4 gospels make 90 % of the bible. so Paul did not write more than 7-8% probably less. I did not calculate myself but probably will.
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Nobody does "a word count" so that is just nonsensical. Also are you going to exclude all the words in italics in the KJB? Let's be reasonable and realistic instead of making this A FARCE. All that matters in the total number of books, and those of Paul exceed all the others.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Nobody does "a word count" so that is just nonsensical. Also are you going to exclude all the words in italics in the KJB? Let's be reasonable and realistic instead of making this A FARCE. All that matters in the total number of books, and those of Paul exceed all the others.
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Really? if the 14 books of Paul were 2 words each, would you still say he wrote most of the N.T.? please be serious! A Word count is much more representative then the number of volumes.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Here are the epistles of Paul. Not "approximately 13" but exactly 14:
  1. Romans
  2. 1 Corinthians
  3. 2 Corinthians
  4. Galatians
  5. Ephesians
  6. Philippians
  7. Colossians
  8. 1 Thessalonians
  9. 2 Thessalonians
  10. 1 Timothy
  11. 2 Timothy
  12. Titus
  13. Philemon
  14. Hebrews
14/27 = 52%

Here are the other books:
  1. Matthew
  2. Mark
  3. Luke
  4. John
  5. Acts
  6. James
  7. 1 Peter
  8. 2 Peter
  9. 1 John
  10. 2 John
  11. Jude
  12. Revelation
12/27 = 48%

So which is greater? 52% or 48%? Paul wrote OVER HALF the NT by book count.
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You are calculating using a different formula. You are using the number of books written vs the number of words written. They are both valid observations, but the number of words written by each writer, in my opinion, is a better comparison.
 
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YWPMI said:
I remember reading somewhere that we are not supposed to consider what the person we give to does with their gift. But I cannot, for the life of me, remember WHERE it is? Does ANYONE know? no lectures please... I just wanna know WHERE it is in The Bible. Thank you!
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I think the CONCEPT is there, but not sure that actual verse is.

The Temple is a good example. Jesus gave a Temple tax, and commended the poor woman who gave all she had. Even though He knew the Pharisees were misusing the funds in various ways.

So on the macro, giving to your Church, or an organization in some sense we do what the Lord asked us, and it is incumbent upon the receiver to rightly use the money.

But in the micro, we should probably be more discerning. You wouldn’t want to just give a drug addict money for instance. That’s not to say you wouldn’t help them though in other ways.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
You are misunderstanding Paul. His "I wills" were not his own opinions. God gave him the revelations he needed and he spoke with apostolic authority. We should never forget that Peter called ALL of Paul's epistles Scripture. And they are indeed the Word of God. Over 50% of the NT consists of his epistles.
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I disagree somewhat.... there are several instances where Paul himself says basically... "this is my opinion, it is not law from God... it's strictly my opinion" It's all still scripture, but Paul himself makes a distinction....
 
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YWPMI said:
Y'ALL ARE JUST ARGUING and not even coming CLOSE to giving me a decent GODLY answer! Thanks for nothing!
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You want an answer? What you asked is not stated in the Bible. There is your answer.

If discussion of principles that deal with the notion of giving without asking bothers or angers you, perhaps you should close this thread and move on?

There are many scriptures that deal with giving, give cheerfully, give to anyone that asks, give to the needy, etc.... but none of them state "do not ask what this money will be used for"....
 
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hornetguy said:
I disagree somewhat.... there are several instances where Paul himself says basically... "this is my opinion, it is not law from God... it's strictly my opinion" It's all still scripture, but Paul himself makes a distinction....
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Yes. I believe the Lord gave Paul the authority to make those personal remarks equivalent to what the Lord Himself would say. Paul would not have dared to simply present his own ideas within those epistles, since Peter makes them all equal to Scripture. Paul does point out his apostolic authority several times to show that those who scoffed at him were mistaken.
 
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Magenta said:
You have refuted nothing disputing the fact that only about 28% of the NT was penned by Paul.

The gospels alone account for close to 50% of the NT.
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Yup! :D

Magenta wins the chicken dinner here folks! :p(y)

I opened my NT up at the midpoint and came out in the early part of Acts. Paul had not yet contributed anything.
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
How much would this picture change due the Misnomer that The NT
"started at the beginning of the gospels" when it Actually "started at
the Death Of The Testator, Jesus Christ," leaving Most of the "gospels in
the OT, eh?

Amen.
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All of the Gospels contain "the Death Of The Testator, Jesus Christ". The birth of Jesus is certainly part of the "Good News". I think that this may even be what Gospel means.
 
oyster67

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Nehemiah6 said:
Nobody does "a word count" so that is just nonsensical. Also are you going to exclude all the words in italics in the KJB? Let's be reasonable and realistic instead of making this A FARCE. All that matters in the total number of books, and those of Paul exceed all the others.
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Oh my! I feel so dumb and foolish now. :confused::unsure::oops:

...Mag has probably already eaten the chicken dinner by now! :cry:

Sorry Nehigh. :(
 
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