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Sounds like a threat ----Your not mu Judge ----God said this ---and you should take his advice ---when your judging ---
there is no Religious OCD ----OCD is a worldly term ---there is only SATAN who makes you think you have RELIGIOUS OCD ---you should brush up on who your Enemy is and how he works ------that is my suggestion to YOU -----and know your in a Spiritual war every minute of every day ----WHO WILL WIN YOUR THOUGHTS TODAY ____and by your post Satan has your thoughts on his agenda
Believer08
OH! and by the way ---Jesus took all sicknesses and diseases with him on the Cross -----there is no OCD ---stress --anxiety and worldly cares bring Dis--ease in the Body and DIS+EASE in the Body causes Disease today ------as Well as Satan who can put a thought in your mind that you have Religious OCD ----
Better get to know your Scriptures better --I say
Matthew 8:17
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This fulfilled the word of the Lord through the prophet Isaiah, who said, “He took our sicknesses and removed our diseases.”
You Win or loose the Battle in the Mind
OH! and by the way ---Jesus took all sicknesses and diseases with him on the Cross -----there is no OCD ---stress --anxiety and worldly cares bring Dis--ease in the Body and DIS+EASE in the Body causes Disease today ------as Well as Satan who can put a thought in your mind that you have Religious OCD ----
Better get to know your Scriptures better --I say
Matthew 8:17
NLT
This fulfilled the word of the Lord through the prophet Isaiah, who said, “He took our sicknesses and removed our diseases.”
You Win or loose the Battle in the Mind
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Yet, in order to say I’m judging, you’d also have to be judging. You’d do well to take your own advice. You are also incorrect about there not being no mental health problems, which shows you are absolutely clueless. Time to put you on the ignore list.Sounds like a threat ----Your not mu Judge ----God said this ---and you should take his advice ---when your judging ---
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there is no Religious OCD ----OCD is a worldly term ---there is only SATAN who makes you think you have RELIGIOUS OCD ---you should brush up on who your Enemy is and how he works ------that is my suggestion to YOU -----and know your in a Spiritual war every minute of every day ----WHO WILL WIN YOUR THOUGHTS TODAY ____and by your post Satan has your thoughts on his agenda
Yet, in order to say I’m judging, you’d also have to be judging. You’d do well to take your own advice.
your quote ---------You are also incorrect about there not being no mental health problems, which shows you are absolutely clueless.
Your just grasping at straws now ---
-------Your Quote Here -------Time to put you on the ignore list.This is what God says about putting one on the IGNORE LIST
TAKE HEED
Take God's advice here ----and Get Understanding ----
Sorry i am late with this reply Believer08 My computer died and i had to go through all the troubles of getting a new one and setting it all up.. 
Hope you are still visiting CC and will read this reply of mine.. GBU
Hope you are still visiting CC and will read this reply of mine.. GBU
I, love all you stated here in your post, thank you
Yet one thing sticks out to me
That is the using the word atonement. Atonement was set up once a year to get forgiven for the past year sins. Done once a year, to atone, never take away
Yet, when Jesus did it, (Hebrews 10) it was done once for everyone to choose to believe God or not, consciously
So, is it done? John 1:29, John 19:30 did he fulfill the Law and Prophets or not?
I see Jesus won, and Father accepted this as done. Rose him from the dead for the disciples to see it and many others as well
Now, today we know him no more in flesh and blood as did back then (2 Cor 5:16)
God seeks us in God's spirit and Truth to us each, at least for me. I, now see in Spirit of Father and Son alone. John 4:23-24 and all flesh is now condemned to flesh as said in Romans 8:1-3
Yet one thing sticks out to me
That is the using the word atonement. Atonement was set up once a year to get forgiven for the past year sins. Done once a year, to atone, never take away
Yet, when Jesus did it, (Hebrews 10) it was done once for everyone to choose to believe God or not, consciously
So, is it done? John 1:29, John 19:30 did he fulfill the Law and Prophets or not?
I see Jesus won, and Father accepted this as done. Rose him from the dead for the disciples to see it and many others as well
Now, today we know him no more in flesh and blood as did back then (2 Cor 5:16)
God seeks us in God's spirit and Truth to us each, at least for me. I, now see in Spirit of Father and Son alone. John 4:23-24 and all flesh is now condemned to flesh as said in Romans 8:1-3
I will answer Yes.. Jesus did fulfill the law.. But i have a nagging feeling you are asking a different question?? I am not sure what that question actually is?
True..
The issue that exists is no one truly has a complete understanding of the Word of God and everything related to it. We don't actually know if Grace means how we define it or not. The same with Mercy. We have a general concept but thinking we can live this way versus that way we don't have concrete Biblical evidence to say modern day definitions match Biblical meaning.
So thinking about how I stand before God based upon the actions and sins I committed each day is just easier to solve by having a daily Prayer like the Lord's Prayer where you ask for forgiveness and offer forgiveness to those who sinned against you seems like a viable and essential habit to keep.
I've always believed if your mind is constantly worried about the sins you commit you are better off going to God about them and seeking forgiveness.
So thinking about how I stand before God based upon the actions and sins I committed each day is just easier to solve by having a daily Prayer like the Lord's Prayer where you ask for forgiveness and offer forgiveness to those who sinned against you seems like a viable and essential habit to keep.
I've always believed if your mind is constantly worried about the sins you commit you are better off going to God about them and seeking forgiveness.
If not clear, I am stating Jesus took away the sin of the world for us in Father to see us new and not beat us up as was seen doing that in the Old Testament with sin sacrifice once a year, having Atonement is over, seeing the shed blood of our Lord Jesus took away all sin at his one time willing death, once for us all as forgiven first.once believe new life gets given to see
no more sacrifice for any sin is left. Not in Daddy’s sight, to me at least.
John 19:30 finished, 1:29 taken away, Matt 5:17Law and Prophets fulfilled, 18, not destroyed
Therefore what to do? Since no more sacrifice for any sin left? No more shedding of any blood left.
i require
Mercy over Sacrifice
sin and death now separated to now have a personal relationship and love all as Father has from day one of the fall of Adam
i am loved so I love all, yes even those that have harmed also
i am reconciled, forgiven by God as soon as I sin again, instantly, thanks to Son for me. that I am appreciated by God for sincerity, the same for everyone in sincerity
hope this now might be clearer
to have to atone for any sin after it is taken out of the way by God Father through The done work of Son is unbelieving in God's taking it away to me at least. Set free to love all in this mercy and truth, can’t hate anyone anymore and it is not I that does it or did it. All God
Jesus plus nothing else thanks
love the post regardless
just sharing my view given me too, thank you
Ok having re-read your former post you expressed you had a problem with the word Atonement.. It seems from reading it you think the definition of Atonement is offering a sacrifice yearly.... So i can respond to that by saying the Atonement of Jesus was still an Atonement even though it was only performed Once.. Jesus does not need to get sacrificed daily or weekly or yearly for His Atonement to Atone for all our sins.. Once was enough for all the sins of all the people who would come to believe Jesus and trust in His Atonement..
I'm not actually bipolar but experience more extreme fluctuations than most, almost certainly due to troubling events when very young. That list literally sums up how i fret about things when i'm on a real downer, i'm pretty new to strong belief too. At first, i very much felt God wouldn't accept me but it was my negativity/self doubt, as i mainly have times where i feel blessed/connected. Being imperfect and the type i am, sure i'll always have lows where i just can't see the light but there'll be fewer occurences as i grow in trust and confidence.
Brave thread believer08, know how important it is for some, to say everything in their spiritual garden always comes up roses. However, there are plenty who are upfront about troubles they experience but they still love and trust the Lord. It's clear one size doesn't fit all in ordinary life, let alone spiritual life, will keep an eye on this post as there might well be some interesting discussions to me.
therefore, you see Atonement as done by Son for you too and yet use Atonement still as is done. to each there own thank you, Atone means not taken away, Hebrews 10, thank you
I see it as done gone, no more sacrifice to be forgiven or get anymore. That is done by Son who did that once for us all to be reconciled, since no one in flesh and blood but him could ever do it perfect, proven to me in the first testament everyone failing and continuing to fail, today by Son that is done (2 Cor 5:17-20) we are all reconciled as forgiven in the one time willing death of Son. Then came the risen Son, where new life can be installed in us from belief to Father between us and Father personally, now in the risen Christ doing his love and mercy through us to all people, not only those one's we might choose or not choose as we all do that of first born flesh nature. I do not see the taking away of Sin by Son as an Atonement anymore, I see it is done by Son in his one time willing death for us all to be born new in Father's mercy and truth on that cross once for us all (Hebrews 10) To believe, receive and be new in love to all too, thank you for your view appreciated
God simply loves us all, otherwise Son would not have ever gone to that cross willingly, you think? I see this as truth now, and Praise God for it by God for us all to choose to believe God or not. To see self or anyone else we, I at least need God hope all mothers see their own depravity too
Hmm, another derailed thread, so many seem more in love with bullying people who disagree with them, than they do with spiritual discussion.
To Atone is to pay a penalty or to pay compensation..
If i owe a fine for a traffic infringement, lets say $500 and my Sister pays that fine, Then my sister has provided Atonement for my traffic transgression.. So i disagree with your definition of the Word atonement which seems to be the core problem here..
I see Daddy, Father, PaPa will and does use all things, good or bad to work it out for the good in the long haul, fro us all, in love with us all.
Romans 8:28. As we the people all interpret differently, and either share back in care and continue not to make it my way or the highway attitudes of the first born flesh nature, wanting to be in charge
Hoping it is not derailed and there is learning from it all. I see true, from Daddy, wait and hear, that might take a while to hear that answer, that has happened to me many times over the years, not denying God and going through troubles also
So much love and wisdom in your comments, exactly what i need at the moment precious friend, cheers.
I did not disagree with your view, please re-read the post, thank you
I agree to disagree as everyone has their own personal interpretations
If, you free and do not live like a refugee, thank you, if you do, that be your free choice, not mine
God, I see relieves stress in people, one person at a time, for me that is true, thank you, as others put stress in others to not rest in their sermons of better do or else attitudes of the first born flesh and blood, whether that be in a Church or not
Love you and respect you, thank you