The body of Jesus was begotten by God. Jesus always existed. Jesus is God. Jesus moved into the body prepared for him in the womb of Mary. That body was begotten by God the Father.
Gods will vs mans free will
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The body of Jesus was begotten by God. Jesus always existed. Jesus is God. Jesus moved into the body prepared for him in the womb of Mary. That body was begotten by God the Father.
No, Jesus (the name of a man) did not always exist. The Son of God always existed, but Jesus came into this world in space and time to become God incarnate.
The life that God wants us to choose is not eternal life, which Christ has already accomplished on the cross for those that God gave him, but is that good and abundant life of peace, joy and contentment as we sojourn here on earth. This life can only be chosen by those who have been born again.
Death, according to Strong's concordance is "a separation". The life, in Duet 30:19, is not referencing eternal life, but abundant life of joy and peace that his children can have if they choose to follow his commandments. If they choose death, they will separate themselves from God's fellowship, but not from their eternal inheritance.
Nice to see you again, FGC... I hope you are well .
I am well and doing fine. Looking forward to my 90th birthday in January.
FAQ: Was Jesus an implanted baby or a biological baby? In other words: was Mary his
surrogate mother or his natural mother?
REPLY: In the beginning, a prediction relative to Eve, said:
"I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he
will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." (Gen 3:15)
Also: the angel informed Mary that she would conceive in her womb. Well; according to
the birds and bees, a woman's ovum has to be involved in a baby's birth in order for the
little tyke to be considered a conception.
FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male gender?
REPLY: In the beginning, Eve's entire body-- inside and out, front to back, top to
bottom, and side to side --was constructed with material taken from Adam's body. (Gen
2:21-22) So if God could construct an entire woman from some material taken from a
man's body, then it shouldn't be too difficult for Him to construct a teensy little
chromosome from a woman's body.
Seeing as how Eve is the mother of all women (Gen 3:20 & Acts 17:26) then any
material taken from Mary's body to construct a Y chromosome for baby Jesus would be
owed to Eve's body; and by construction: Adam's body.
The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken from Mary's
body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but would be 100% natural, and
easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and from thence to the very dust that was used
to construct Adam's body.
I sincerely believe that what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the
Most High overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then
little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew-- biologically descended not only from David and
Abraham as all other Jews, but also from the Man that God created in the book of
Genesis.
● Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way.
FAQ: Was the blood in Jesus' body human blood or God's blood?
REPLY: Jesus was put on track to take David's throne.
● Luke 1:31-33 . .You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him
the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord
God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of
Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.
Candidates under consideration for David's throne have to be-- first and foremost --one
of his natural descendants.
● Ps 132:11 . .The Lord has sworn in truth unto David; and He will not turn from it: "Of
the fruit of your body will I set upon your throne"
The New Testament verifies Jesus is the fruit of David's body spoken of in that oath.
● Acts 2:29-30 . . Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David,
that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day. Therefore
being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of
his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.
● Rom 1:3 . . . His son; descended from David according to the flesh
The thing is: according to Lev 17:11, the life of the flesh is in the blood. So if the life in
Jesus flesh had been due to God's blood instead of David's blood, then Jesus' flesh
would not have been David's flesh; and Jesus would've failed to qualify for David's
throne.
* One of the oldest creeds in Christianity states that Jesus is fully God and fully Man.
Well that creed would be grossly mistaken if something other than natural blood was in
Jesus' flesh. Plus: on numerous occasions Jesus referred to himself as "Son of Man"
which, likewise, would be patently false were other than natural blood in his flesh.
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Eternal salvation was accomplished on the cross, by the sacrifice of Christ, for all of those that his Father gave him. Jesus's sacrifice was an offering to God, for God's acceptance, and not to mankind for their acceptance.
God has given mankind the freedom to choose how he wants to live his life here on earth, but God foreknew that none would choose to seek God, therefore, he chose a people to adopt as his children.
In the adoption process the father chooses the children whom he wants to adopt, and the children have no choice in the adoption.
No, not really. Jesus the man did not always exist. Read Luke's genealogy, for example. Does it say that Adam descended from Jesus or the [preexistent] Son of God? Father, Son and Holy Spirit always existed but Jesus did not. The Son of God became a man.
From where did you get this notion that Eve is "the mother of all women"? Eve is the [spiritual] mother of all her godly seed, since Gen 3:15 implies that Eve was reconciled to God.
No we are not. We are born with a sin nature and that is in the body not the mind. Romans 7 could not be true if we were born with evil hearts (souls).
But I showed you the word translated born or begotten is not monogenes as you keep trying to tell us but is gegennemenos. You want to ignore your basic premise is wrong, go ahead. I'm moving on.
Have a nice day.
No he is not right because he assumes freedom means "without restraint" but that is not free at all. There can only be true freedom when true authority (restraint) is exerted. Without authority there is only chaos.
Yes, the Bible seems filled with paradoxes, if you are a Calvinist. And they keep "finding" more and more of them as they keep needing to explain away the logical contradictions inherent in their broken systematic. But you can't keep on fixing new patches onto an old garment and have the garment maintain its integrity.Well...on the other hand, the bible is filled to the brim with paradoxes...so what's one more?
And how does that sin nature not make man inherently evil? And why did Christ place great emphasis on the hearts of men from which all evil flows? And why did God promise under the New Covenant to give his chosen people new hearts? How come he didn't promise to give us all new bodies in this age?
Matt 15:18-20
18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart , and these make a man 'unclean.' 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.'"
NIV
Job 15:14 is spoken by a man who God says did not speak correctly. I see you agree with that man. Join the dots.
Jesus did not say, "If you being completely evil know how to give good gifts..."
All kinds of evil proceeding from somewhere does not mean all that proceeds from there is evil.
"The heart is more deceitful than all else" does not mean that the heart is only capable of deceit.
Your eisegesis is showing,
There are no contradictions within the Doctrines of Grace. Those "contradictions" are monsters of your own worldly imagination. Maybe a friendly exorcism would do the trick for you...
