Give me 3 solid online Pastors to follow

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1) Rick Warren

need two more...
Depends on what level.
Full gospel?
Cessationist ( Baptist)?
Prophetic?
If you want American safe non power stuff...any Baptist will be OK.
You can list a hundred of them.

If you want higher, as in the authority of the believer, I could list a few, but the Pharisees will throw a fit at anything with the Holy Spirit or Power.

Best to just resign to some safe cessationist canned messages.

Shrug.
 
Full gospel?
Cessationist ( Baptist)?
Prophetic?
If you want American safe non power stuff...any Baptist will be OK.
You can list a hundred of them.

hello Psalm 1. Good to meet you. After some years in Full Gospel Business Men's Meetings and an AOG church I left that stream and joined a Baptist Church in 2009. While some Baptists are cessationist I would say that not all are. And I would say that as far as Full gospel is concerned, there's a difference between God speaking and people making stuff up (Jeremiah 14:14), but no accountability for the distinction to be enforced. I think the main beef many have with Baptist Churches (in my experience) is that there is some level of accountability and care for the sheep, whereas my experience of Full Gospel was a free for all, with unstable but outgoing persons allowed free reign to do what they wanted to the sheep, without accountability. Most people I knew from Full Gospel Circles including myself were given false personal prophecies, the person who gave the false prophecy was never held to account. Sometimes these false prophecies were unsolicited and given publicly, for example one single guy and friend of my uncle was put on the spot at a Full Gospel meeting by a 'prophetess' and publicly accused of cheating on his wife. A single man!! The preached word of God has power and is flawless, every word of God is flawless and is a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces.

One Baptist speaker I would recommend is John Mackay from Creation Research, I have heard him speak and have met him.

Another would be Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis

God Bless All :)
 
hello Psalm 1. Good to meet you. After some years in Full Gospel Business Men's Meetings and an AOG church I left that stream and joined a Baptist Church in 2009. While some Baptists are cessationist I would say that not all are. And I would say that as far as Full gospel is concerned, there's a difference between God speaking and people making stuff up (Jeremiah 14:14), but no accountability for the distinction to be enforced. I think the main beef many have with Baptist Churches (in my experience) is that there is some level of accountability and care for the sheep, whereas my experience of Full Gospel was a free for all, with unstable but outgoing persons allowed free reign to do what they wanted to the sheep, without accountability. Most people I knew from Full Gospel Circles including myself were given false personal prophecies, the person who gave the false prophecy was never held to account. Sometimes these false prophecies were unsolicited and given publicly, for example one single guy and friend of my uncle was put on the spot at a Full Gospel meeting by a 'prophetess' and publicly accused of cheating on his wife. A single man!! The preached word of God has power and is flawless, every word of God is flawless and is a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces.

One Baptist speaker I would recommend is John Mackay from Creation Research, I have heard him speak and have met him.

Another would be Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis

God Bless All :)
Your post is Baptist good, all full gospel bad.

I have thousands of awesome experiences in full gospel churches.
Many bad ones as well.

The bible warns about wolves and false teachers.
Anywhere the spirit of God is moving satan is there as well to stop it.
The bible actually is conceding that there are dangers in the full gospel churches.
Power gets misused.
The solution for me is never to trade the anointing for a sleepy religion.

I could never just give up on heaven and trade it for a powerless denomination.
 
Paul Washer is one of my favorite Pastors.My top 3 YT channels are:
Change is coming soon
Latterrain333
Godshealers7 endtimes prophecy channel.
 
Your post is Baptist good, all full gospel bad.

Hello Psalm 1. Good to hear from you. My post was meant to say that in my experience one aspect of Full Gospel can be bad. In my experience there are no checks and accountability on who can give words, especially words of knowledge and words of prophecy and it leads to vulnerable people being led up the garden path. With checks and accountability it would perhaps work better.

I could never just give up on heaven and trade it for a powerless denomination.

Your post is Full Gospel good, all Baptist bad?

Wherever the gospel is preached there is power, for it is the power of God unto Salvation for all who believe. God Bless :)
 
Hello Psalm 1. Good to hear from you. My post was meant to say that in my experience one aspect of Full Gospel can be bad. In my experience there are no checks and accountability on who can give words, especially words of knowledge and words of prophecy and it leads to vulnerable people being led up the garden path. With checks and accountability it would perhaps work better.



Your post is Full Gospel good, all Baptist bad?

Wherever the gospel is preached there is power, for it is the power of God unto Salvation for all who believe. God Bless :)
Powerless.
Sad.
Unless you can point me to a full gospel baptist church.
I am currently attending a Baptist Bible Study 3 times a week.
So I don't see them as personally bad. However, there is no power in any of those people. Even their doctrine concerning the authority Of the believer, is completely absent.
They have no idea of the authority of the believer.
And I don't see how any of them can get any answers to prayer. They are faithless indeed
 
They have no idea of the authority of the believer.
And I don't see how any of them can get any answers to prayer. They are faithless indeed

It really seems impossible to find a church or a ministry which covers it all.

It's like some of them focus entirely on prophecy or holiness or healing or deliverance, but nobody has it all. :(
 
It really seems impossible to find a church or a ministry which covers it all.

It's like some of them focus entirely on prophecy or holiness or healing or deliverance, but nobody has it all. :(
Ok.
Seek out full gospel churches.
( those that still believe in miracles signs and wonders)
Now...in those churches is the "remnant believers"
( believers sold out to Jesus and obsessed with Him)

Hang around those "strange ones".
You will soar.
You will never be the same.

Be madly in love with Jesus and let this world of pain go wherever it will.

Try out 4 or 5 churches....or more, and find home groups.
 
Ok.
Seek out full gospel churches.
( those that still believe in miracles signs and wonders)
Now...in those churches is the "remnant believers"
( believers sold out to Jesus and obsessed with Him)

Hang around those "strange ones".
You will soar.
You will never be the same.

Be madly in love with Jesus and let this world of pain go wherever it will.

Try out 4 or 5 churches....or more, and find home groups.

But the "full gospel" churches which believe in healing and all that are often times weird charismatic churches, at the same time!

Just because a pastor believes in healing,miracles,tongues etc does not mean he cannot be a heretic or a dangerous person.

What about the NAR folks? I am sure they also believe in all this stuff.
 
But the "full gospel" churches which believe in healing and all that are often times weird charismatic churches, at the same time!

Just because a pastor believes in healing,miracles,tongues etc does not mean he cannot be a heretic or a dangerous person.

What about the NAR folks? I am sure they also believe in all this stuff.
Ok.
Whatever
 
Ok.
Whatever

Are mad now?

I would REALLY like a sound church/ministry which believes in everything which is NOT freaky and weird at the same time.

This seems impossible to find. It's like you gotta choose between a church which is normal and traditional and does NOT believe

in miracles and all this, OR you gotta go for a weird,charismatic,freaky church which believes in everything.

I am done with freaky charismatic churches. I have had my fair share of this. It made me feel like I'm in a madhouse!
 
Hi,

thanks to those who wrote helpful stuff in my threads.

I have decided to leave this forum for various reasons:

- Unfriendly users who impudently dare to question my salvation (this is unacceptable for a christian forum, such things should not be tolerated!)

- Apparently it's not permitted here to create any threads with a critical opinion of Trump (I wasn't aware that this is a maga forum...)


In summary:

This is not a forum I'd recommend to anyone. Off to find a nicer, safer place with FREEDOM OF SPEECH
 
francis chan.

takes a lot of balls and character to walk away from a mega church you started. He's one that's definitely not in it for the money. i like and watch his vids sometimes, I particularly like his older stuff.
 
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