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[posthuman]

רָקִיעַ
7549. raqia ►

Strong's Concordance
raqia: an extended surface, expanse

Original Word: רָקִיעַ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: raqia
Phonetic Spelling: (raw-kee'-ah)
Definition: an extended surface, expanse

Air pressure is not a "solid," but capable of elevating solids.

here's some light music to consider expanses by...

title is 'haraquia' -- a Czech transliteration of the Hebrew

does it sound flat?

case closed lol

 

[Blain]

i've wondered if gases aren't included under 'water' in ancient Hebrew

the stars, nebulae etc all being gaseous

nevertheless yeah, clouds.

what about rain? couldn't they simply be refering to rain?

 

[posthuman]

what about rain? couldn't they simply be refering to rain?

there wasn't any until the flood?

 

[DanielLL]

sphere or orb

Circle means sphere or orb? What does sphere mean then?
And where are you getting this from? I can't find it:
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
circle, circuit, compass
[חוּג] verb draw round, make a circle

 

[DanielLL]

Air cannot be seen with the eyes.

It doesn't matter what you can't see, The Word is Truth, not "verifiable reality". Because Heaven and Earth will pass away, but His Word will never pass away. And the Word is: FIRMAMENTUM, Solid since the times of the Hebrews. And also Strong:

Joel 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

לֵב ׳ח firm, hard, of sky Job 37:18

-firm
adjective
having a solid, almost unyielding surface or structure.

-hard
adjective
solid, firm, and rigid; not easily broken, bent, or pierced.

-solid
adjective
1. firm and stable in shape; not liquid or fluid.
strongly built or made of strong materials; not flimsy or slender.
3. not hollow or containing spaces or gaps.

So, of course, the logical conclusion is that the entire English language is wrong, Hebrews are wrong, Strong's is wrong, dictionaries are wrong, everyone is wrong except Mangenta. And Im the one who's the "conspiracy theorist" here, yeah sure.

 

[Blain]

Circle means sphere or orb? What does sphere mean then?
And where are you getting this from? I can't find it:
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
circle, circuit, compass
[חוּג] verb draw round, make a circle

Circle, sphere: ח֣וּג – chug
Circle, sphere: ח֣וּג – chug

• to draw a circle, to circumscribe, Job 26:10.
  • masc. circle, sphere,
  • fem. compass, compasses, Is 44:13.
• it also is used in moder day hebrew to describe thinggs like basket balls or something like that. or something round or flat and circlular

 

[Magenta]

It doesn't matter what you can't see, The Word is Truth, not "verifiable reality". Because Heaven and Earth will pass away, but His Word will never pass away. And the Word is: FIRMAMENTUM, Solid since the times of the Hebrews. And also Strong:

Joel 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

לֵב ׳ח firm, hard, of sky Job 37:18

-firm
adjective
having a solid, almost unyielding surface or structure.

-hard
adjective
solid, firm, and rigid; not easily broken, bent, or pierced.

-solid
adjective
1. firm and stable in shape; not liquid or fluid.
strongly built or made of strong materials; not flimsy or slender.
3. not hollow or containing spaces or gaps.

So, of course, the logical conclusion is that the entire English language is wrong, Hebrews are wrong, Strong's is wrong, dictionaries are wrong, everyone is wrong except Mangenta. And Im the one who's the "conspiracy theorist" here, yeah sure.

לֵב ׳ח
Strong's Concordance
leb: inner man, mind, will, heart
Original Word: לֵב
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: leb
Phonetic Spelling: (labe)
Definition: inner man, mind, will, heart

 

[DanielLL]

Circle, sphere: ח֣וּג – chug

A site that supports sodomites, this is your "source".

Anyways we are not in Job 26:10. But not even in Job 26:10 does sphere work, that is why no translation ever translates it as sphere. If you translate as sphere you lose all meaning and sound phrasing of the sentance, it makes no sense. As a matter of fact, I challenge you to present me with a singular translation that has translated the word "chug" to mean sphere, in any verse that the word chug is used. There isn't one singular example of the word chug beeing translated as sphere. Only your sodomite sources could err this bad.

 

[Dino246]

A site that supports sodomites, this is your "source".

Anyways we are not in Job 26:10. But not even in Job 26:10 does sphere work, that is why no translation ever translates it as sphere. If you translate as sphere you lose all meaning and sound phrasing of the sentance, it makes no sense. As a matter of fact, I challenge you to present me with a singular translation that has translated the word "chug" to mean sphere, in any verse that the word chug is used. There isn't one singular example of the word chug beeing translated as sphere. Only your sodomite sources could err this bad.

Kindly provide the evidence for claiming his source “supports sodomites”. Do you reject the evidence on that basis alone?

 

[DanielLL]

Kindly provide the evidence for claiming his source “supports sodomites”. Do you reject the evidence on that basis alone?

I challenge you to present me with a singular translation of the Bible that has translated the word "chug" to mean sphere, in any verse that the word chug is used. There isn't one singular example of the word chug beeing translated as sphere.

 

[oyster67]

Trolling the Milky Way for Starfish! Cool!

Duuuuude !!!

Cool indeed!

 

[oyster67]

old cluster of grapes on a tectonic cheese plate

Too Cool!

 

[posthuman]

Circle means sphere or orb? What does sphere mean then?
And where are you getting this from? I can't find it:
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
circle, circuit, compass
[חוּג] verb draw round, make a circle

the projection of a sphere onto any plane is a circle.

God is not confined -- His thoughts are not our thoughts, and His ways not our ways.
that includes that: His ways are not your ways or my ways. His thoughts are not your thoughts or my thoughts.

we may 'have the mind of Christ' if we are so blessed. but it is still His mind, not ours.

never think of Him as a man, like you. never think of His words as though they are the words you would speak.
that is a certain path to lacking understanding.

 

[oyster67]

i've wondered if gases aren't included under 'water' in ancient Hebrew

I'm gonna havta dry my underwear then.

 

[oyster67]

there wasn't any until the flood?

Dew?

 

[oyster67]

Air cannot be seen with the eyes.

It can in LA.

 

[Dino246]

I challenge you to present me with a singular translation of the Bible that has translated the word "chug" to mean sphere, in any verse that the word chug is used. There isn't one singular example of the word chug beeing translated as sphere.

That’s a complete dodge. You are guilty of slander until you present the requested evidence.

 

[Grandpa]

i've always considered the conspiracy section of the forum to be tantamount to 'bizarre ideas that hardly matter go here'

it's traditionally the home of flat-earth threads, consensus being, there really is no Biblical or scientific basis for such thought, and who cares?? the only people who do care -- who do science and engineering where the shape of the earth actually matters, all know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the earth is not a frisbee.
the handful of verses flat-disciples refer to are all fairly figurative language that could lend itself to various geometric interpretations.
there are thousands of evidences that it is wrong.

God just doesn't seem to find it terribly important to fill scripture with physics in such a manner - it is a book revealing Christ, not a book revealing cosmological topology.

@DanielLL
Foucalts Pendulum is an experiment showing the rotation of the Earth.

The Earth is NOT stationary. It rotates. As PROVEN by experiment and experience.

So, ALL the scripture that 'flat-earth' theorists use must re-interpret in a way that shows the FACTS.


But then the facts refute their theories...

 

[Blain]

A site that supports sodomites, this is your "source".

Anyways we are not in Job 26:10. But not even in Job 26:10 does sphere work, that is why no translation ever translates it as sphere. If you translate as sphere you lose all meaning and sound phrasing of the sentance, it makes no sense. As a matter of fact, I challenge you to present me with a singular translation that has translated the word "chug" to mean sphere, in any verse that the word chug is used. There isn't one singular example of the word chug beeing translated as sphere. Only your sodomite sources could err this bad.

This is my source https://www.mattysparadigm.org/circle-sphere-chug/ Let others see for themselves if it supports sodomy
Now as far as translation goes you and I both know that isn't possible unless of course you can hebrew because it is a hebrew word no english bible says it in this way but like I said the hebrew words open the bible in a whole new way. the old testament was written in the original hebrew language not english

 

[Blain]

That’s a complete dodge. You are guilty of slander until you present the requested evidence.

This is my source https://www.mattysparadigm.org/circle-sphere-chug/