What do you believe OSAS is ?
It is a false doctrine.
Here’s the biblical gospel:
Repent and believe the gospel.
Continue grounded and settled.
Endure unto the end.
What do you believe OSAS is ?
Did Adam and Eve believe in God?
previously refuted:
I AM the Resurrection and the Life: he who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live, and whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this? - Jesus Christ, Lord of heaven and earth
For there are certain men crept in unawares...these are Satan's ministers.Jude 1:4 KJV
[4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
THIS IS WHAT OSAS DOES!
But if the Holy spirit has sealed us to Glorification. how are we lost ?You said "How can someone actually be lost when he is glorified"
To which my responses were......he is not glorified yet. He can still be lost on the journey. Salvation happens at the end of the journey. The JUST shall LIVE (ongoing) by faith.
For what its worth, some of the worst behaviour I've seen has been from those who hold to conditional salvation .
But if the Holy spirit has sealed us to Glorification. how are we lost ?
But if the Holy spirit has sealed us to Glorification. how are we lost ?
Yes but what Good news do we preach ? is it 'build an alter to the Lord ' burnt offerings? yes by faith . But if you believe you can preach without the 'death, burial and resurrection then you would be preaching a false gospel and no one is going to be saved by your Gospel.The O/T Saints where saved by their Faith in God and by their Faith in that sacrifice they took to the high priest would forgive them of their sins. All whose faith was only in God and forsook the sacrifice went to hell.
The N/T Saints are doing the same as the O/T Saints. They say their faith is in Jesus (God), but have no faith in the atoning Sacrifice (the Lamb of God-Christ Crucified 1 Cor. 2:2). This is called Apostasy. Matthew 7:14, Matthew 7:21-23
The scripture says, "Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar." Genesis 8:20
Noah had Faith in the sacrifice that it would forgive him of his sins.
We need to understand -- in context -
There are many who say they are saved but are not. There are many who don't know if they are saved but are.Perhaps the unsaved have no insight! Especially the religionists!
Jude 1:4 KJV
[4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
THIS IS WHAT OSAS DOES!
Jude 1:4 KJV
[4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
THIS IS WHAT OSAS DOES!
Wow your adding things to what the verse does not say .It also doesn't say those that quench the Spirit that He leaves either . The bible doesn't say Jesus wasnt a champion figure skater either . If I said your contract is until 2030 when does your contract end?You are sealed with Him (in other words He dwells in the believer). It doesnt mean the rebel who quenches the Spirit will be saved.
You have an amazing way of Jumping to another text with a separate context avoiding the first text ?.Hebrews 10 v29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” [g]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.”
I gave you Heb 10v29Wow your adding things to what the verse does not say .It also doesn't say those that quench the Spirit that He leaves either . The bible doesn't say Jesus wasnt a champion figure skater either . If I said your contract is until 2030 when does your contract end?
More confused thinking. Salvation begins AT THE BEGINNING and continues for eternity. Salvation is of the LORD.He can still be lost on the journey. Salvation happens at the end of the journey.
More like you are struggling to see the connections.You have an amazing way of Jumping to another text with a separate context avoiding the first text ?.
Were in Ephesians ? the bible isn't fighting with itself.I gave you Heb 10v29
engendering lasciviousness is exactly what the actual gospel is naturally, and slanderously accused of:
And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”? — as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just. (Romans 3:8) why?
why not use grace as an excuse for lasciviousness is the precisely the obvious question raised by the actual gospel:
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?(Romans 6:1)why?
More confused thinking. Salvation begins AT THE BEGINNING and continues for eternity. Salvation is of the LORD.
CALLING ----> JUSTIFICATION----->SANCTIFICATION--->GLORIFICATION
Glorification is predestined: For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. (Rom 8:29,30)