Demonstrate how it is essential. A person can be saved without knowing this fact.
Essential Christian Doctrines
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Demonstrate how it is essential. A person can be saved without knowing this fact.
If I put my faith in a rock that I named "Jesus", that rock will not save me. But yes, people can initially not fully understand that Jesus is God. But if they persist in that Arian heresy even after being taught, then they are not a Christian.
I vaguely remember you attacking me and me defending myself, but I always try to discuss issues rather than attack anyone.
Because you did not answer my questions I was forced to infer your answers, and I am dumbfounded by your disagreement with me saying a person who does not worship God is not saved.
If I were completely honest and detailed in answering that question, I would be restricted from this site, and you wouldn't believe it, anyway.
I'm not looking for someone to debate this with, I'm looking for someone who is willing to seek the truth, against tradition and dogma.
I don't follow
I have no interest in the Arian heresy, nor the councils and creeds that redefined Scripture over the centuries.
I have no interest in the Arian heresy, nor the councils and creeds that redefined Scripture over the centuries.
Jesus' Words in John 8 verses 23b plus 24b ~ Unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.
Yes, God did come to us in human flesh, but that human flesh didn't exist before it was born...
As well, even though Jesus, the human, didn't exist prior, once the Holy Spirit alighted on him, he received the memories of God, because he became God in human flesh.
It wasn't until
So you know where this forum stands and you have made it clear where you stand. It's just so refreshing to find someone like yourself who insists only they have and know the 'truth' and you are seeking like minded people. Well, I want to know God as He is and not as He is represented by so many of these 'truthseekers' so I will trust Him, in His faithfulness, to lead me in HIS truth.
By all means then, do not be completely honest. That sentence alone is off putting.
Every single question you ever asked me was answered by me. I have never attacked you. If anyone would like to see how you discuss issues, they can just look over the posts you have already made in this thread, that you did NOT start, that you have sidetracked and this is how you act in every thread that offers any sort of 'in' for you to advertise YOUR threads and then YOUR website.
I don't traffic in dishonesty and care for it even less when it makes itself the prime directive in the way others conduct themselves, here or in real time. Stop whimpering about how myself or anyone else has treated you, because those statements are false as you know, be a real person and adjust yourself to be honest in how you post. I'm not holding my breath.
There is no because. It's just you with your passive aggression. Gives me the ick.
Well, I suggest we forget the past--which is not difficult for me--and I invite you to reprove me without the pejoratives.
Apparently you are unaware that NightTwister started this thread for the purpose of discussing with me and anyone else
interested in discussing essential doctrines, because he did not want to do so on the Kerygma thread that I had started
for that purpose.
I do not understand why you are so upset that I invite folks to use the website as a resource, which I view as OURS
because I invite folks to submit amendments that I add at the appropriate place.
I traffic in truth without whimpering, but feel free to quote me doing otherwise.
Apparently NightTwister is also unaware.
I don't care if you send every single person using this forum an invitation to your website. Not sure the owner might like that but I digress. When I was first posting with you, (after an absence from this forum cause this is not my first profile as I have made clear a number of times to different people) you were polite but then I mentionned I might start a thread about salvation and it was on after that. First you said I should just trot on over to your kery thread but I said no...politely I might add...and then I started a thread with questions about healing and you inserted yourself there with some very unhelpful posts so yeah; your behavior is not 'an angel walks among us unawares' as you seem to think. More like intrusive and questionable with the added 'benefits' of denying what you do.
Yeah I don't think most people here want to add to your website. One time I posted something and said I did not write it but you grabbed it anyway and stuck it in your site. It was about the Holy Spirit. You took it down, or said you did, when I brought your attention to the fact it was not my list so you can't just do that. As it was, if it had been my list? I would not have agreed. You never asked; just assumed.
It's past time for you to acknowledge what you do and change your behavior and understand we are not all here for your benefit for you to preach at us and tell us where we should post. You do not answer questions and I know that because I have asked you plenty. You dodge, avoid and twist words. You do not address any scripture given by others questionning your 'teaching'; it's just one big runon with you and if you can change that at your age (as you have said) well good on you.
I don't want to reprove you. Your personality has no room for that. I stated you were taking the op off course and then you came back with made up nonsense and here we are. Your desire to turn this forum into your personal teaching platform is obvious to anyone who has exchanged posts with you and had the nerve to question you.
How about YOU seeing my post #4, and what you posted on the Keygma thread was "I'm not going to respond anymore in this thread. Feel free to engage or not in the other one. It's your choice."
Apparently NightTwister is also unaware.
I don't care if you send every single person using this forum an invitation to your website. Not sure the owner might like that but I digress. When I was first posting with you, (after an absence from this forum cause this is not my first profile as I have made clear a number of times to different people) you were polite but then I mentionned I might start a thread about salvation and it was on after that. First you said I should just trot on over to your kery thread but I said no...politely I might add...and then I started a thread with questions about healing and you inserted yourself there with some very unhelpful posts so yeah; your behavior is not 'an angel walks among us unawares' as you seem to think. More like intrusive and questionable with the added 'benefits' of denying what you do.
Yeah I don't think most people here want to add to your website. One time I posted something and said I did not write it but you grabbed it anyway and stuck it in your site. It was about the Holy Spirit. You took it down, or said you did, when I brought your attention to the fact it was not my list so you can't just do that. As it was, if it had been my list? I would not have agreed. You never asked; just assumed.
It's past time for you to acknowledge what you do and change your behavior and understand we are not all here for your benefit for you to preach at us and tell us where we should post. You do not answer questions and I know that because I have asked you plenty. You dodge, avoid and twist words. You do not address any scripture given by others questionning your 'teaching'; it's just one big runon with you and if you can change that at your age (as you have said) well good on you.
I don't want to reprove you. Your personality has no room for that. I stated you were taking the op off course and then you came back with made up nonsense and here we are. Your desire to turn this forum into your personal teaching platform is obvious to anyone who has exchanged posts with you and had the nerve to question you.
I trust that what I just posted to NightTwister will make everyone aware.
If you are not obsessed by the website, why did you mention it?
Your version of our history is worthless without quotes and post #s.
Regarding healing, in my experience no one has the gift.
Hopefully, folks do not amend the website because they find it fine as is.
Yes, I thought you were being helpful by posting something regarding the HS for us to use--boy was I wrong!
I deny intentionally not answering questions at least once, but I admit not repeating myself more than necessary.
If there are some you think I never answered, please ask them again.
My personality has repeatedly invited loving reproof, which your diatribe obviously is NOT.
If the OP wants me not to participate on this thread, I will stop posting.
I see that I struck a nerve with you and I apologize for offending you,
but so far you have not been specific enough for me to know what to work on.
I agree that what happened is weird.
If you notice me being mean on this thread, please let me know.
And just so you know, I intend to amend the Kerygma lesson on our website pending what we decide is essential doctrine here.
So far so good i would say despite folks wanting to arrange certain sentence structures, the essentials remain in good shape.
Expect that one person who doesn't like Trinity.
Expect that one person who doesn't like Trinity.
Soon I'm going to create a "Non-Essential Christian Doctrine" thread. That should be fun
Have you considered writing fiction? You could definately write fiction, but due to your inability to follow a train of thought, the story line would be convoluted beyond the interest of an intelligent being trying to follow it. You have backpeddled so hard, you may have actually gone back in time at least an hour.
At this point, I am wondering if we should address you in the plural?