Essential Christian Doctrines

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Boughtwithaprice said:
Yes, God did come to us in human flesh, but that human flesh didn't exist before it was born...

As well, even though Jesus, the human, didn't exist prior, once the Holy Spirit alighted on him, he received the memories of God, because he became God in human flesh.

It wasn't until
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Then why did John leap in Elizabeth womb. John also recognized the lamb of God, and we can take a visit with the two temple prophets.
Moses and Elijah also recognized him.
Not judging I don't think the trinity should be a doctrine but it is a good tool to use to understand what many see in scripture.
 
God-fearing said:
Then why did John leap in Elizabeth womb. John also recognized the lamb of God, and we can take a visit with the two temple prophets.
Moses and Elijah also recognized him.
Not judging I don't think the trinity should be a doctrine but it is a good tool to use to understand what many see in scripture.
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I'll take 1700 years of established church doctrine over someone's decision it shouldn't be there.
 
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pinebeach said:
Have you considered writing fiction? You could definately write fiction, but due to your inability to follow a train of thought, the story line would be convoluted beyond the interest of an intelligent being trying to follow it. You have backpeddled so hard, you may have actually gone back in time at least an hour.

At this point, I am wondering if we should address you in the plural?

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All I can say at this point is that I bet my thoughts are closer to the mind of Christ than yours,
but we will find out in heaven, so happy trails until then.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I think in determining what are essential Christian doctrines the question needs to be asked, "essential for what?" It seems that Christians are more focused on driving as many stakes in the ground as possible in order to separate themselves from others, rather than on doing the things that are essential, like faith and love.

The world doesn't know we are Christ's disciples through doctrine, but through the love we have for one another. When everyone's busy distinguishing their brand from others, love takes a backseat.

A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. In this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34-35​
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That's how you do it.

Focus on that single defining attribute of God.

Once you understand what the gift of love means.

Then you will comprehend that God is love.

Heaven is in the presence of that divine love for eternity.

Everything and I mean everything is fulfilled by loving others.

That is the commandment that Jesus gave us.
 
lrs68 said:
I'm not getting involved in this or that but you and I have had conversations where I have mentioned Church Fathers so it's obvious that I am Church History advocate.

So to answer your question based upon Church History it was rejected by the RCC!

They also pray first to Mary.

I'm done just wanted to enlighten the readers to who actually rejected the belief.
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The Pope and Mary are venerated.

Veneration is not worship.

You can only worship Jesus.

The RCC are a twisted church but not that twisted that they worship anyone but God alone.
 
Inquisitor said:
The Pope and Mary are venerated.

Veneration is not worship.

You can only worship Jesus.

The RCC are a twisted church but not that twisted that they worship anyone but God alone.
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But these rules are recent within past 1,000 years.
 
pinebeach said:
cliffhanger

Sorry. I'm past being serious with certain things being said that are east and west when a comparable is made between true and untrue
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Wow, that is the most incoherent sentence I've read in months...

Do you have a point? Or do you just comment random stuff on random threads?
 
God-fearing said:
Then why did John leap in Elizabeth womb. John also recognized the lamb of God, and we can take a visit with the two temple prophets.
Moses and Elijah also recognized him.
Not judging I don't think the trinity should be a doctrine but it is a good tool to use to understand what many see in scripture.
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When Moses and Elijah recognized Him, it was after the Holy Spirit ascended upon Him.

Yes, when in Elizabeth's womb, John had the Holy Spirit, and He (the Spirit) reacted, via the fetus of John.

Even unclean spirits recognized Him, but after the Spirit alighted on Him.

The concept of "trinity" suppresses the fullness of God...

It limits God...

It pigeonholes God into doctrines...

He is MUCH more than a mere "trinity."

I pray that others can perceive the image of God, and the purpose of His "image" as it relates to us.
 
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NightTwister said:
I'll take 1700 years of established church doctrine over someone's decision it shouldn't be there.
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Sorry for the
NightTwister said:
I'll take 1700 years of established church doctrine over someone's decision it shouldn't be there.
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That's fine and i have no problem with that. There are many scriptures that prove the trinity doctrine no doubt.
I myself see it also. I not here to disprove it but to say to make it doctrine is to say one can teach the mystery of God.
 
GWH said:
All I can say at this point is that I bet my thoughts are closer to the mind of Christ than yours,
but we will find out in heaven, so happy trails until then.
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This comes across as some very childish nah nah nah nah nah

While scripture tells us to esteem others better than ourselves. Yeah you do have the mind of something, but not Christ.
 
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Boughtwithaprice said:
Wow, that is the most incoherent sentence I've read in months...

Do you have a point? Or do you just comment random stuff on random threads?
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aww. Don't be shy. I was quoting you after all :LOL:

I guess you have found out this forum does not appreciate people denying the Trinity so now you gonna take two steps back and one step forward. Your forward steps should not consist of trying to insult or belittle others though. That's not gonna fly either.
 
Boughtwithaprice said:
Yes, God did come to us in human flesh, but that human flesh didn't exist before it was born...

As well, even though Jesus, the human, didn't exist prior, once the Holy Spirit alighted on him, he received the memories of God, because he became God in human flesh.

It wasn't until
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And there is that cliff hanger sentence you seem to want others to ignore. Where do we learn that Jesus received the memories of God?
 
NightTwister said:
It's been 6 years since this was a topic, and there has been some discussion on other threads recently, so a new thread seems to make sense. What are the ESSENTIAL Christian doctrines? These are doctrines that divide us from other quasi-Christian religions (e.g. LDS, JW, etc.). I'll start things off with an edited list of Statement of Beliefs from my church on the essentials:

God
God is the Creator and Ruler of the universe. He has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal and are one God.
Biblical References: Genesis 1:1, 26–27, 3:22; Psalm 90:2; Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14; 1 Peter 1:2

Jesus
Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is co-equal with the Father. Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered himself as the perfect sacrifice by dying on the cross. He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death. He ascended to Heaven’s glory and will return again someday to claim His own and take them to that same Heaven.
‍Biblical References: Isaiah 9:6; Matthew 1:22–23; John 1:1–5; 14:10–30; Acts 1:9–11; Romans 1:3–4; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; 1 Timothy 6:14–15; Titus 2:13; Hebrew 4:14–15

Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is co-equal with the Father and the Son. He is present in the world to make men aware of their need for Jesus Christ. He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation. He is our intercessor and provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual truth, and guidance in doing what is right.
‍Biblical References: John 14:16, 16:7–14, 17; Acts 1:8; Romans 8:26–27; 1 Corinthians 2:12, 3:16; 2 Corinthians 3:16–17; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 1:13; 5:18

The Bible
The Bible is God’s Word to us. Human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit, wrote it. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is God inspired, it is the truth without any mixture or error.
‍Biblical References: Psalm 119:105, 160; Proverbs 30:5–6; Matthew 5:18; 2 Timothy 3:16–17; 1 Peter 1:25; 2 Peter 1:20–21, 3:15–16

Eternity
People were created to exist forever. We will either exist eternally separated from God by sin, or eternally with God through forgiveness and salvation. To be eternally separated from God is Hell. To be eternally in union with him is eternal life. Heaven and Hell are real places of eternal existence.
‍Biblical References: John 3:16; 14:17; Romans 6:23; 8:17–18; 1 Corinthians 2:7–9; Revelation 20:15

This should be a good starting point. Feel free to agree, disagree, modify, add, etc.
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Agree on all
 
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