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Alcohol is recommended under certain circumstances and in particular situations; although sobriety
is definitely the ideal, conditions exist under which alcohol was recommended, and celebrations were
one such occasion. If drinking was a sin, Jesus would not have created over a hundred gallons of wine
at the wedding in Cana. Jesus also commented to Pilate that the one who turned him over had a greater
sin, so yes, there are levels to the severity of sin, though there is only one that is unforgivable.
is definitely the ideal, conditions exist under which alcohol was recommended, and celebrations were
one such occasion. If drinking was a sin, Jesus would not have created over a hundred gallons of wine
at the wedding in Cana. Jesus also commented to Pilate that the one who turned him over had a greater
sin, so yes, there are levels to the severity of sin, though there is only one that is unforgivable.
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“Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go ahead and enjoy your meals as you eat. Drink your wine
with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.
Psalm 104:14-15 “You make grass grow for cattle and make vegetables for humans
to use in order to get food from the ground. You make wine to cheer human hearts,
olive oil to make faces shine, and bread to strengthen human hearts.”
1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water only, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent illnesses.
Proverbs 31:6-7 Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in
anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
Philippians 4:5 “Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.”
Proverbs 25:28 “Like a city with breached walls is a man without self-control.”
with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.
Psalm 104:14-15 “You make grass grow for cattle and make vegetables for humans
to use in order to get food from the ground. You make wine to cheer human hearts,
olive oil to make faces shine, and bread to strengthen human hearts.”
1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water only, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent illnesses.
Proverbs 31:6-7 Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in
anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
Philippians 4:5 “Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.”
Proverbs 25:28 “Like a city with breached walls is a man without self-control.”
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Alcohol has a few purposes.
1. Solvent for herbal extracts
2. Chemical for many useful compounds
3. Fuel
4. Solvent/ cleaner for tough oil based or water based grime like sticky tars or sap
5. Antiseptic
6. Vasodilator for emergency
There are a handful of legitimate nonsinful uses off the top of my head.
Drunkenness is a sin according to the Bible.
Yes, there are varying degrees and types of sins.
See this short video below for further explanation.
1. Solvent for herbal extracts
2. Chemical for many useful compounds
3. Fuel
4. Solvent/ cleaner for tough oil based or water based grime like sticky tars or sap
5. Antiseptic
6. Vasodilator for emergency
There are a handful of legitimate nonsinful uses off the top of my head.
Drunkenness is a sin according to the Bible.
Yes, there are varying degrees and types of sins.
See this short video below for further explanation.
Here's a good study on the subject.
If you find this helpful, there may be a good IFB church in your area. This pastor and others have online sermons that can get you started too if that's of interest.
https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/02preaching/Sermons_Pastor_Anderson/All_Sin_Is_NOT_Equal.mp4
If you find this helpful, there may be a good IFB church in your area. This pastor and others have online sermons that can get you started too if that's of interest.
https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/02preaching/Sermons_Pastor_Anderson/All_Sin_Is_NOT_Equal.mp4
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“Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.”
1 Corinthians 6:18 KJV
It affects us differently than other sin but all sin is sin how it can affect the person is different
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10KJV
We have to repent of sin all together but fornication and all sexual sin homosexuality , adultery ect this is sinning against this
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
when we commit sexual sin it’s like we are uniting Gods holy temple with a diseased prostitute it is an offense to defile Gods temple a unique offense that is actually able to become part of us when we are called to keep the temple clean for his ever living presence in us
but a lie , adultery , idolatry , coveting is all sin and we need to as we recognize it repent of it
as Christian’s God is always with us not just in the pew on so day but at midnight on Friday night Jesus is right there witnessing , when no one else is around Jesus is right there with us , when we gnhink no one knows what we did on secret jesus is fully aware of every word and deed
when we accept and believe it , it is a powerful thing to bring us out of sin because often we simply think we’re alone and no one knows because we keep it secret so this allows us to think “ it’s not a big deal everyone does it “ but when we are aware God is right there ups oir actions change in his presence ? Would we act much more like in the pew on Sunday ? If we knew God is watching and present ?
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
1 John 3:4 KJV
any sin makes us a sinner
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
James 2:10 KJV
if I lie , I’m no different from an adulterer We’re both lawbreakers and liars who don’t repent end up in the same boat as a murderer , the unbeliever the abominations , idolaters and witches ect in other words all sinners who will not repent
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:8 KJV
Sexual sin can affect our walk with Jesus differently because we are becoming one with someone else for a moment when we have sex . Sex is actually meant to be a pure and clean and holy blessing from God between a married couple for pro creation
but perversions have made it wicked and about pleasure and animal instinct. It’s also somethkng that can bind and addict people like a drug because of the pleasure receptors it fills chemically making us feel good for a moment
God shaped everything right but then we come and defile everything he gave us speech to speak truth and love but we speak lies and deceit and insult
he gave us a sacred bond in a marriage and way to pro create and multiply having precious children but we pervert it into a pleasure we freely seek after
everything God made us to be and do , we have perverted jesusnis about re establishing everything the right way showing us the truth we had long forgotten the ways of zoos meant for mankknd from the beginning before we followed the lie and were corrupted
the earth is out of order
“How long will ye judge unjustly, And accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: Do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: Rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
They know not, neither will they understand; They walk on in darkness: All the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; And all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: For thou shalt inherit all nations.”
Psalm 82:2-8 KJV
Christ has come to teach us truth of Gods judgements we have perverted and forgotten and lost long ago
1 Corinthians 6:18 KJV
It affects us differently than other sin but all sin is sin how it can affect the person is different
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10KJV
We have to repent of sin all together but fornication and all sexual sin homosexuality , adultery ect this is sinning against this
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.”
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
when we commit sexual sin it’s like we are uniting Gods holy temple with a diseased prostitute it is an offense to defile Gods temple a unique offense that is actually able to become part of us when we are called to keep the temple clean for his ever living presence in us
but a lie , adultery , idolatry , coveting is all sin and we need to as we recognize it repent of it
as Christian’s God is always with us not just in the pew on so day but at midnight on Friday night Jesus is right there witnessing , when no one else is around Jesus is right there with us , when we gnhink no one knows what we did on secret jesus is fully aware of every word and deed
when we accept and believe it , it is a powerful thing to bring us out of sin because often we simply think we’re alone and no one knows because we keep it secret so this allows us to think “ it’s not a big deal everyone does it “ but when we are aware God is right there ups oir actions change in his presence ? Would we act much more like in the pew on Sunday ? If we knew God is watching and present ?
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
1 John 3:4 KJV
any sin makes us a sinner
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
James 2:10 KJV
if I lie , I’m no different from an adulterer We’re both lawbreakers and liars who don’t repent end up in the same boat as a murderer , the unbeliever the abominations , idolaters and witches ect in other words all sinners who will not repent
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:8 KJV
Sexual sin can affect our walk with Jesus differently because we are becoming one with someone else for a moment when we have sex . Sex is actually meant to be a pure and clean and holy blessing from God between a married couple for pro creation
but perversions have made it wicked and about pleasure and animal instinct. It’s also somethkng that can bind and addict people like a drug because of the pleasure receptors it fills chemically making us feel good for a moment
God shaped everything right but then we come and defile everything he gave us speech to speak truth and love but we speak lies and deceit and insult
he gave us a sacred bond in a marriage and way to pro create and multiply having precious children but we pervert it into a pleasure we freely seek after
everything God made us to be and do , we have perverted jesusnis about re establishing everything the right way showing us the truth we had long forgotten the ways of zoos meant for mankknd from the beginning before we followed the lie and were corrupted
the earth is out of order
“How long will ye judge unjustly, And accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: Do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: Rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
They know not, neither will they understand; They walk on in darkness: All the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; And all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: For thou shalt inherit all nations.”
Psalm 82:2-8 KJV
Christ has come to teach us truth of Gods judgements we have perverted and forgotten and lost long ago
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“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
Genesis 6:5-6 KJV
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Jeremiah 17:9 KJV
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
Mark 7:21-23 KJV
“A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.”
Ezekiel 36:26 KJV
“When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.”
Matthew 13:19 KJV
“But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”
Matthew 13:23 KJV
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
Hebrews 4:12
“But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
Hebrews 5:14 KJV
Genesis 6:5-6 KJV
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Jeremiah 17:9 KJV
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
Mark 7:21-23 KJV
“A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.”
Ezekiel 36:26 KJV
“When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.”
Matthew 13:19 KJV
“But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”
Matthew 13:23 KJV
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
Hebrews 4:12
“But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
Hebrews 5:14 KJV
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Thanks for the replies and I am going to possibly get a bit lengthy and personal in this post so if no one replies I don't blame you. I haven't had a drink of alcohol since 4 Aug. 1989 and feel bad that I can remember that date more distinctly than any day that I accepted Jesus as my Savior which I cannot remember as a certain day. What I do remember is that on 24 May 2021 late in the night or possibly, after midnight, reading passages about Jesus praying in Gethsemane and also reading various commentaries about Jesus' prayers in Gethsemane and coming across some commentary that was mentioning the cup being turned to joy and that the Greek word for joy is chara. I was really tired at this time as I had been reading for some time so my understanding of what I was reading and exactly what I understood was fuzzy to say the least. At this time in my life; i.e. early to mid 2021, my praying was possibly still uncertain as I recall. I would pray to the Father in Jesus name asking for the Holy Spirit to lead me to the truth, but then I would ask that I would get some sign that I was doing right and I would think that there is a verse that says that Jews ask for signs and I am almost certain that I'm not Jewish, although from past friends I have known from Latvia and Lithuania and Russia and Ukraine and Syria and Palestine some saying that they are Jews I would start wondering who are these people that call themselves Jews. Just seems to me if some of these past friends really are Jews, anybody can be a Jew. (Sammy Davis)? I also had been in contact by phone with a local group here calling themselves House of Jacob, which I still talk with on occasion, and they are dark tan skin folks that claim to be the "true Israelites". And that is a whole other kettle of 153 fish (Jn.21:!!) which I fixate on at times. So back to asking for a sign; early morning of 25 May 2021 I check the US geological earthquake website, a quirky habit of mine, and it shows a 4.5 magnitude quake near Novaya Chara in Russia. Chara same word as I remembered for joy in the Greek. I had been daily checking that website for maybe two years and never saw any reports of quakes near Novaya Chara. I posted some of this previously on this site and a reply was that yes God does at times give us a sign in response to prayer. And I had searched for the etymology of the Russian word Chara and came up with it possibly meaning cup.I have other occurrances in my life which I can only now explain as God sometimes having to really get the rod out “trying” to get my attention.Maybe I should say that I was finally accepting of Jesus as my savior 25 May 2021.
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Probably not many. It’s such a rare condition. It’s being drunk without drinking though. I wonder if it’s a sin? Personally I see it more like a disability rather than willful disobedience.
If the apostles found a drunk person who had auto brewery syndrome would they have known the difference from a real drunkard?
If the apostles found a drunk person who had auto brewery syndrome would they have known the difference from a real drunkard?
Although I have not had a drink in over 42 years, my liver enzymes always come back with GGT very high. That's the enzyme that shows if a person is drinking too much alcohol. But I never drink, and I don't feel drunk. Something is affecting my liver, and now I am getting liver damage. I have always wondered if I have this. Not enough alcohol to be drunk, but a small amount daily 24/7 might be affecting my liver. Thanks for mentioning this name. Something I need to talk about with my liver specialist.
As to whether it is a sin if you have this syndrome? Of course it is not sin! Sin is something you make a choice to do. How can it be a sin if you have no control over it, and never even knew you had it?
As to whether it is a sin if you have this syndrome? Of course it is not sin! Sin is something you make a choice to do. How can it be a sin if you have no control over it, and never even knew you had it?
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