Romans 8:7 NLT - "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will."
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Romans 8:7 NLT - "For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will."
Did Santa send you to this forum?
See I have been feeling like the forum was getting a bit dull. I wrote a letter to Santa asking for something to spice things up around here, a little entertainment.
Did you get referred to this forum by a fat guy with a big white beard, in a really fuzzy red suit with a really wide black belt around the waist?
If you see him again, tell him I said thank you.
It isn't a test. It's Scripture pointing out that willful disobedience is the result of not having turned to Christ for the removal of the Sinful Nature, the very Purpose of Christ. Until the Curse of the Sinful Nature has been removed, we remain "dead" to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Colossians 2:11, 13 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. ... 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins."
Hence, post #3. The most "loving" post anyone is capable of offering (the Holy Truth).
The Holy Truth needs to apply before it is applied. And I guess that is the point @Lanolin is making.
The OP author is a sister and she became a believer ten years ago. She was abused in her marriage and is separated according to her profile - not divorced. She was married at least ten years so it would be reasonable to believe that she came to faith when she was already married. The rest of what she expresses in the OP is essentially a cry for support. So because she is a sister in the Lord - then it is that meaning which is needful and not necessarily a form of doctrine. Just how I see it brother.
Hello and welcome to CC!
As you are fairly newly single, I would encourage you to subscribe to the daily devotional from DivorceCare.org. It is biblically sound wisdom specifically for your situation. I see someone already mentioned them.
Otherwise, lean on the Lord and trust Him to work in you for healing. It will likely take longer than you think.
Thank you, I will do that.
And, don't worry, I ignore people like 2Timothy. He doesn't worship Jesus Christ. He worships the same god the pharisees worshiped, and it's not the God of the Bible.
Ah good. I was concerned he might scare you away.
We occasionally get Pharisees here, but they never last long. They can be downright entertaining while they last though. Give it a few days and he'll blow away.
I was with my abusive husband for 25 years. He completely drained all life out of me and I no longer recognized myself. He was not a father to our children, I was the only parent, yet I got all the criticism if he thought I was being a bad parent.
Regardless of what the pharisees say, Christ does not expect his daughters (or sons) to suffer in abandoned marriage. And my marriage was spiritually and emotionally and, from a marital point of view, physically abandoned.
We are not called to suffer abuse for abuse sake. The only time we're called to endure suffering is for the cause of Christ. Any other abuse (persecution), we're told to flee from. You can't evangelize a man who has abused you for 25 years. His heart is dead.
I am not ashamed for leaving my husband. I know who Christ is, he's the man who defended the adulteress from the pharisees because their abuse of her was more heinous to Christ than her adultery. They were breaking one of the two NT laws...love thy neighbor as thyself. And, in doing so, were actually breaking both of them. (Love the Lord with all your heart.) He addressed her adultery, but with love and compassion and not until AFTER the abusive pharisees were dealt with and sent on their way. Their threat to her was eliminated FIRST.
That's the Christ I worship. Not the false one devised by ignorant OT law keepers who have no real understanding of the scriptures regarding new testament marriage.
Well, it's clear. Peter and Paul were Pharisees (according to the OP). Why? Because they taught the below heresy!
Peter wrote (as the Word of God)
1 Peter 2:19-23 NKJV - "For this [is] commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit [is it] if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this [is] commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth"; 23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed [Himself] to Him who judges righteously . . ."
Paul wrote (as the Word of God)
1 Corinthians 7:16-17 NLT - "Don't you wives realize that your husbands might be saved because of you? And don't you husbands realize that your wives might be saved because of you? 17 Each of you should continue to live in whatever situation the Lord has placed you, and remain as you were when God first called you. This is my rule for all the churches."
Unbelievable.
Peter wrote (as the Word of God)
1 Peter 2:19-23 NKJV - "For this [is] commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. 20 For what credit [is it] if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this [is] commendable before God. 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth"; 23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed [Himself] to Him who judges righteously . . ."
Paul wrote (as the Word of God)
1 Corinthians 7:16-17 NLT - "Don't you wives realize that your husbands might be saved because of you? And don't you husbands realize that your wives might be saved because of you? 17 Each of you should continue to live in whatever situation the Lord has placed you, and remain as you were when God first called you. This is my rule for all the churches."
Unbelievable.
I think some underestimate the cross. God knows the heart, in the end it’s up to Him to decide. So turned off by self righteous holier than thou attitudes. Legalism won’t win hearts to Christ. The Bible can be misinterpreted and many twist it to their beliefs or favor. Jesus didn’t come to start a religion, He came to show us the love of God.