Does man have a freewill ?

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Do you think that hearing the word of God caused a change in you? If so, did this change result in and new relationship with God himself?
Ephesians 1 explains what occurred better than I can ...

Ephesians 1:12-13 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise

after we heard, we trusted ... after we trusted, we believed ... then sealed with that holy Spirit of promise.


Cousin shared the gospel of Christ with my husband and me. The gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation. Cousin took out his bible and showed us ... we heard the Word of God ... we saw what was written ... God gave the increase.
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You argue endlessly about whatever suits you because you're not trying to convince anybody of anything...

And here I had respect for you,


or so you say. I am not convinced. If you are the person who was originally eternally gratefull then you are the first person I recall arguing with me trying to prove that you were right and I was wrong about something after I first joined 10 years ago... but you can keep pretending you're not trying to convince anybody of anything. It doesn't look like anything has changed except your name. I have not read the full exchange between you and Cameron, and why you would expect me to get involved in it anyway, and admit to something I do not know, is ridiculous. I barely engage with you because of your general attitude. My guess is you've received many infractions over the years because of it. I also believe that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose.
Once again, I am not discussing doctrine. I am discussing being falsely accused.

Discernment in this chatroom is at an all time low

I am done. It is evident than people are not going to admit wrong. so I can not respect them. so moving on
 
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We all agree, already! No need to continue!
whatever dude

Your right, no need to continue

no humility here. people make claims. they get questioned of those claims. theyn they change their claims and deny they even said something/

and the one trying to hold them accountable gets attacked.

good day!
 

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As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”

2 Tim 2: 25

God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, 26and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.

Romans 8:5-8

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. 8Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

1 Cor 2:14-16

14The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16“For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

Look man I can go on and on and on with this because I'm not pushing a "dark theology", I'm simply repeating scripture that you very openly reject. It's Gods word that teaches what you call "dark" and reject while claiming yourself a Christian and seeming to imply others that believe this are not. It's you that seems completely blind to the 2 different and VERY distinct natures that a man can have. It's you that seems ignorant of spiritual truths unveiled when we are born again. If you think we aren't ALL born broken haters of God unable to please Him, then I have to conclude you don't know the difference in being born of the flesh and being reborn of the Spirit. Anyone who has been born again in truth KNOWS the difference and will testify of it, yet you openly reject it and call it "Dark."

So you said "God does not gift or "grant" us repentance", yet the bible says "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth", Acts 11:18 ""When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”
Acts 5:31 31God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. 32And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”

So who should I listen to? You or Gods word? I know who I trust more. You completely contradict scripture to make your point. Is that not a red flag to you?
Excellent as usual, Jim, just love your contributions and your heart for God! Thank you also for the inspiration .:D


There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one. Romans 3:11-12 God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. 2 Tim 2: 25-26 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8:5-8