Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?
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I have said what I said and did not stutter. Read what I posted it's public record.
Jesus Christ applys salvation on them He died for. That's His Job as Saviour. He sends His Spirit to them and gives them life.
There are unsaved people whose sins have been paid for, but they refused. They'll pay for their own sins.
God wants people who want Him, He does not make people want Him.
If there is no free will, no choice, then love is meaningless.
Just so I understand...God requires people to pay for sins that He has already paid for?
Untrue. Bible is not Calvinism. The contextual scripture teachings are not made void by the false accusations of Calvinism.
By the by, John Calvin was preceded by others who rightly divided the word of truth.
It's Bible not Calvin.
The Man Who Refused A Pardon
February 9, 2015/in Monday Manna /by CBMC International
Imagine being convicted of a crime you deeply regretted – intentional or unintentional – and being offered a pardon to absolve you of any penalty. Would you accept it? Let me tell you about a man who did not.
In 1829 two men, George Wilson and James Porter, robbed a United States mail carrier. Both were subsequently captured and tried in a court of law. In May 1830 both men were found guilty of six charges, including robbery of the mail “and putting the life of the driver in jeopardy.” Both Wilson and Porter received their sentences: Execution by hanging, to be carried out on July 2.
Porter was executed on schedule, but Wilson was not. Influential friends pleaded for mercy to the President of the United States, Andrew Jackson, on his behalf. President Jackson issued a formal pardon, dropping all charges. Wilson would have to serve only a prison term of 20 years for his other crimes. Incredibly, George Wilson refused the pardon!
I'm not interested in the actions of people. I'm interested in the truth about God. The Bible says God is just. You also said there are people in hell whose sins are paid for.
Now I'm asking if the 2 are contrary or compatible. Can God be just and require people to pay for sins He has already paid for?
God's justice is an immutable attribute. It is not contingent on man's response. In other words, God is just or not just independent of what people do.
The Gift of salvation
And the (payment) atoning blood of Jesus Christ
Are there for us to accept/receive at the point of repentance/a contrite heart.
Satan will certainly accuse God if he does not give us a choice.
God is a gentleman, he does not force his gift on anyone.
So God is just to allow people to be in hell whose sins are paid for? It's either true or not. I'm asking which it is.
None, not one. You and brightflame continuing to parrot each other means nothing. Nothing has been refuted.