Do we know how Yeshua lived his life?

[Rainrider]

You ask about conversion and I will explain:

1. The Believing Pharisees were very puzzled at Non-Jews entering salvation as the disciples were and believed you had to convert. Paul sums up you don't have too and also Judaism today agrees.

2. Now what if you want to convert and you feel pulled to Jewish teachings? This is a long one but in short, Jesus went to save the Lost 10 Tribes and that means Jews intermarried or got lost in various countries. However G-d wants them back and back as Jews if possible but some lost their Jewishness via intermarriage and so forth. Jesus then hits the heart of a few people and these people seem to feel a deep connection with Judaism. Therefore it could be that this person was Jewish before or carries Jewish blood still and now wants to convert. This would be the work of Jesus saving the 10 Lost Tribes.

3. But now you get into a mess because how can you convert and keep Jesus? Well this is a very deep topic, hence why Paul says, "The Gospel is a Mystery" because it is very deep. But as a Christian, this is not necessary to dwell into but Christians should realize that the New Testament is a Jewish Text and can only be best understood by a Jew if there are those who are humble to admit this. If you'd like more info, please email me. Thanks

First, as Paul is the most misunderstood writer in the Word, I have asked that he not be brought into this thread. It isn't that I can't place his teachings in context with the teachings of Yeshua. As we all know and understand, the Word must be one coherent thought from start to finish. If not we have a faith built not on truth, rather on division. HaShem really doesn't care if your Jew, or gentile, He wants us to follow His ways, and His laws. This is made clear from Gen.1:1 to Rev. 22:21. Or from in to Amen.

 

[Rainrider]

You ask about conversion and I will explain:

1. The Believing Pharisees were very puzzled at Non-Jews entering salvation as the disciples were and believed you had to convert. Paul sums up you don't have too and also Judaism today agrees.

2. Now what if you want to convert and you feel pulled to Jewish teachings? This is a long one but in short, Jesus went to save the Lost 10 Tribes and that means Jews intermarried or got lost in various countries. However G-d wants them back and back as Jews if possible but some lost their Jewishness via intermarriage and so forth. Jesus then hits the heart of a few people and these people seem to feel a deep connection with Judaism. Therefore it could be that this person was Jewish before or carries Jewish blood still and now wants to convert. This would be the work of Jesus saving the 10 Lost Tribes.

3. But now you get into a mess because how can you convert and keep Jesus? Well this is a very deep topic, hence why Paul says, "The Gospel is a Mystery" because it is very deep. But as a Christian, this is not necessary to dwell into but Christians should realize that the New Testament is a Jewish Text and can only be best understood by a Jew if there are those who are humble to admit this. If you'd like more info, please email me. Thanks

Sorry I didn't reply to the full post. I wish to correct that now.
If you had read my writings on here, there are many places I tell others NOT to convert to Judaism. It is not as you said not needed. However as stated above, like Ruth we do become a part of the covenant of Avrham. Though I do wish Paul to remain out of this discussion, we must look at Rom. chapter 10 and 11 to see this.
Next Yeshua came to for the First, and then the Gentile. So make a claim that he only came for the Jew, would not only remove Israel from your wording, it would remove the Gentile as well. Before you get up set, we follow the Word in all that said. That includes the division between the Jews, (that being the tribes of Benjamin, and Judea) and Israel, (that being the 10 northern tribes. As we know the 10 northern tribes were taken by Assyria, and have yet to return. True there have been a small number of Israel that have.
Also one must understand there were Gentiles at Mount Sinai. Remember the multitude of others that left Egypt with Israel? So your claim that we gentiles have no connection with Torah is a bit misguided. Though some will argue that there were no Gentiles at Sinai, there is also no Biblical evidence to show there wasn't. This leaves us with 2 possible out comes for them.
1 they were absorbed into Israel, and 2 at some point they left the people. Like I said we are not told what became of them, so we can't show one way or the other.
Last you say that the N.T. can only be understood by a Jew. I strongly disagree. You see the Word isn't Jewish only, after all Yeshua did come for the Gentiles as well as the People. Also if you find anything you don't understand, simply search the Word. It will explain everything. Even Paul's writings are based on Torah.
As you know, (as it seems you are Jewish) the Torah is the bed rock on witch all scripture is built. Both old and New Testaments. HaShem has not hidden anything from any of His children, neither the Jew or Gentile. To make that claim one must first remove the FACT that HaShem wants all of his creation to return to Him. As the Word said, Romans 1:16, The Jew first, and also the Gentile. So why would the Word not be open to us gentiles understanding it? Even Rabbi Richman acknowledges this. I can add others that understand this as well.
In closing, though it is true there are parts of the Torah that are for the People alone, such as Temple services, the Laws that govern the temple priest, and others, there are also parts that govern the faith of the Gentile.

 

[Rainrider]

Jesus from the view I am given to see, came to earth in flesh and blood to fulfill Law and prophets, not destroy it (Matthew 5:17) then went and did all that was right in love and mercy for everyone. Jesus never convicted, abused or harmed anyone. Yet from the religious one's they did, trying to accuse him and he only answered truth. Kept on healing, even on the Sabbath, even ate from the show bread and Wass accuse again. The leaders (Pharisees) there then, jealous, seeing no one. coming to them to get anymore advice from them, only to find out where Jesus was at then. They got even further furious, when they saw Lazarus risen.
The plotted to kill him! For what doing good?

Now risen, where new life for anyone that choose God in risen Son for them, start new life, God moves in, Spirit and Truth. the fight between Spirit flesh and Spirit Father begin. Yet the Holy Spirit, God himself will not fight you or anyone else. Will wait patiently for one, anyone to see their futility of Ecclesiastes, going on in them
However, New life begins, once anyone turns to God Father in risen Son fro them These see they vt God are accepted, forgiven and sealed to see truth over error. Just stand and remain willing for God to teach you over self and or anyone else Phil 3:1-20 Thank you Father for Psalm 103:12, Psalm 100:4

Yet in all His fulfilling not all has been. Had you read mat. 5:18 you would see that the Yeshua made clear,
Mat 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved.
As it is clear that not all the Laws, or prophesies have been fulfilled. We are still waiting on the beast of Rev. 13 and Yeshua's return. There also the feast to think about. When Yeshua was here the first time, He fulfilled 4 of the feast. Passover, First fruits, unleavened bread, and the feast of weeks, or Pentecost as many know it today.

 

[Rainrider]

Mat 13:18 “Now listen to the explanation of the parable about the farmer planting seeds:
Mat 13:19 The seed that fell on the footpath represents those who hear the message about the Kingdom and don’t understand it. Then the evil one comes and snatches away the seed that was planted in their hearts.
Mat 13:20 The seed on the rocky soil represents those who hear the message and immediately receive it with joy.
Mat 13:21 But since they don’t have deep roots, they don’t last long. They fall away as soon as they have problems or are persecuted for believing God’s word.

I wish to use this to address something that was said in a prior post. The idea that a Gentile doesn't have a Biblical history like the Jewish people do, so we can't understand the Word is a bit out there. It is true that many of us don't hold the the insight of the Sages, or that we also don't take the time to study the Word in a proper manner, that doesn't mean we are so stupid we can't learn. We must simply learn a new way of thinking. You see most western people think in a linear fashion. In otherwords, we think that because this was said in Gen, when we see it in Rev. it holds a new meaning. that simply isn't true. We must build on a foundation of solid rock. That rock being the same foundation as the Word, i.e. the Torah. Once we find a way to do this, nothing can pull us up, or make us stumble.
Mat 13:22 The seed that fell among the thorns represents those who hear God’s word, but all too quickly the message is crowded out by the worries of this life and the lure of wealth, so no fruit is produced.

Though I see no reason to give commentary on this others in our group think it is called for. So from our beloved Rabbi, who tells us, Many times people will hear the truth, then get swept up in denominational teachings. Though said teachings may be found in the Word, they simply don't follow the Word. The best example of this would be the debate over the law. Though it is true that Yeshua came to fulfill the Law, and the Prophets, they use this to say the law has been removed. Yet as made clear in this thread, and the post above, Yeshua has not fulfilled all the Laws or prophecies as yet. It is hard for a tree to produce fruit if only has 1/4 of the root system need to keep it alive. Yes this holds for both Jew and Gentile.
Mat 13:23 The seed that fell on good soil represents those who truly hear and understand God’s word and produce a harvest of thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times as much as had been planted!”

We are divided on some things here. So we are going to just place what we do agree on. The Good soil is the Whole of the Word. No rocks to trip us up, no had pan to slow or stop the roots from going deep. Though we may see some things a bit different, it doesn't mean we are not working to find what we may have missed. It is this line of thinking that has brought together people from many walks of life. Just in our study group we have, Orthodox Rabbis, a Baptist pastor, a lawyer, An ultra Orthodox Rabbi, and not the last or the lest, a Catholic priest. The fun part, when we first started, we all though it would last maybe a month. Yet almost 7 years later we are still at it. There has been some changes in the way of think, and even more changes in what we think we know. (Just a reminder we say what we think we know to keep us humble. You see, when a person thinks they know everything, they become unteachable. We know that what we think we know, is nothing more than where we stand now. Over time, with new ideas and a better understanding, we may find that we we now think we know isn't 100%. That would mean we made a mistake and we must correct our thinking accordingly. That is what we agree on. Why just that? Because without knowing we are human, and can make mistakes, we can not keep learning.

 

[homwardbound]

Truth is if we are to follow Yeshua, we must do so in every aspect of His life. One thing to note is that the Torah is in fact HaShem's Laws as given to His people. Once any person makes the choice to follow Yeshua, they become an adopted member of the Avrhamic covenant. Just as Ruth, the Hebrew people become our people, and their G-d becomes ours.
Now if we are to act as though we are not a part of the covenent made with Avrham, we are saying we are not a child of HaShem.

believe God
See from God
And be new in God
Then freely love all, yes even those that have done you wrong
Got anyone in you that you hate still? Can't forgive, even though by God in Son you are forgiven, reconciled?
This is asking you between God and you, not me and you, thank you

 

[homwardbound]

Yet in all His fulfilling not all has been. Had you read mat. 5:18 you would see that the Yeshua made clear,
Mat 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved.
As it is clear that not all the Laws, or prophesies have been fulfilled. We are still waiting on the beast of Rev. 13 and Yeshua's return. There also the feast to think about. When Yeshua was here the first time, He fulfilled 4 of the feast. Passover, First fruits, unleavened bread, and the feast of weeks, or Pentecost as many know it today.

It is now by Son's done work, finished for me to walk new in Daddy's Father's, PaPa's Spirit and Truth, the Holy Spirit in love to all as is done by Son Jesus first. Which no other could do. Yet Son did it first, for anyone to turn in self to Father's Spirit and be made new by Father himself in Daddy's Spirit and Truth John 4:23-24
Thank you, next to turn to Dad, and be new by Father for them too. Quitting self works and be new in love to all in the same mercy and truth
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

I am only sharing what is shared with me, by Father and Son for us all to simply love all, in the same mercy and truth given us all presently after the cross of Son for us all to be new in the risen life, not the dead one. The dead one is done and over with. It is the risen Life of Son that saves that Father gives to each, in the right time, as Daddy sees ready or not yet for each person, to me at least we all grow in different stages, no one better than anyone else ever to me anyways. Hebrews 5:12-6:3

 

[Rainrider]

Mat 13:24 Here is another story Jesus told: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field.
Mat 13:25 But that night as the workers slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat, then slipped away.
Mat 13:26 When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew.
Mat 13:27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’

Now some have asked, "Why did they not see the weeds before the good seed started to produce?" As we know the good was wheat, and there are some weeds that look a lot like wheat. Things like fox tail, and so on. So it would be easy to think it was wheat, until the grain began to mature.
Mat 13:28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked.
Mat 13:29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do.

I am sure everyone has pulled a weed or 2 in your life. When you do, and there is something growing right next to it, you may have seen this in action.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’”

Though some may think we are going off the deep end, it must be said. With the way some people hold so tightly to their church teachings, there is no changing their minds. They may look as though they follow the Word on the surface, yet when one digs deeper they find this isn't really the case. Yet Yeshua said leave them, why? It may sound odd, yet we have found the answer maybe simple. It is to let the true followers flourish, spread the truth, and open the door to salvation.
Now I know that someone is going to try their best to use to say we are the weed. Good on you for trying. Just understand that I will look past that, because to do so you will turn to Paul. I have seen it more times than you have ever thought it. Not once have they ever given an answer that didn't come down to because I said so kind of thing.
(Mar 4:30–32; Luk 13:18, 19 )
Mat 13:31 Here is another illustration Jesus used: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed planted in a field.
Mat 13:32 It is the smallest of all seeds, but it becomes the largest of garden plants; it grows into a tree, and birds come and make nests in its branches.”

Now don't get me wrong, the mustard seed may not be smallest seed in the world, so why say it is? In all truth the Word speaks to us in a way we can relate. I am sure that some people may have grown mustard in their garden at some point. Or seen it growing. It does get rather large, and Birds could easily build a nest in it. We have came to the understanding that in this story, the bird may well be seen as an evil doer. Just as the mustard plant is those that follow Yeshua.
(Luk 13:20, 21 )
Mat 13:33 Jesus also used this illustration: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like the yeast a woman used in making bread. Even though she put only a little yeast in three measures of flour, it permeated every part of the dough.”

For any that don't understand what yeast symbioses, it is sin. So from this one can see that even the smallest sin can take over the whole of persons being. Their mind, body, and soil.

 

[PaulThomson]

We are divided on some things here. So we are going to just place what we do agree on. The Good soil is the Whole of the Word. No rocks to trip us up, no had pan to slow or stop the roots from going deep. Though we may see some things a bit different, it doesn't mean we are not working to find what we may have missed.

HI, Rainrider. It is odd that your group agree that the good soil is the whole Word of God, when the text clearly says the good soil is an honest and good heart. and the text says that the seed is the word of God. How did you arrive at the soil being the whole word of Goda?

 

[PaulThomson]

Now don't get me wrong, the mustard seed may not be smallest seed in the world, so why say it is?

The koinE Greek text says the mustard seed "which is a lesser of all the seeds", ὃ (which, relative pronoun) μικρότερον (a lesser, comparative anarthrous) μέν (indeed) ἐστιν (is) πάντων (of all) τῶν σπερμάτων (of the seeds ) - which it is.

 

[homwardbound]

Mat 13:24 Here is another story Jesus told: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field.
Mat 13:25 But that night as the workers slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat, then slipped away.
Mat 13:26 When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew.
Mat 13:27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’

Now some have asked, "Why did they not see the weeds before the good seed started to produce?" As we know the good was wheat, and there are some weeds that look a lot like wheat. Things like fox tail, and so on. So it would be easy to think it was wheat, until the grain began to mature.
Mat 13:28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked.
Mat 13:29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do.

I am sure everyone has pulled a weed or 2 in your life. When you do, and there is something growing right next to it, you may have seen this in action.
Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’”

Though some may think we are going off the deep end, it must be said. With the way some people hold so tightly to their church teachings, there is no changing their minds. They may look as though they follow the Word on the surface, yet when one digs deeper they find this isn't really the case. Yet Yeshua said leave them, why? It may sound odd, yet we have found the answer maybe simple. It is to let the true followers flourish, spread the truth, and open the door to salvation.
Now I know that someone is going to try their best to use to say we are the weed. Good on you for trying. Just understand that I will look past that, because to do so you will turn to Paul. I have seen it more times than you have ever thought it. Not once have they ever given an answer that didn't come down to because I said so kind of thing.
(Mar 4:30–32; Luk 13:18, 19 )
Mat 13:31 Here is another illustration Jesus used: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed planted in a field.
Mat 13:32 It is the smallest of all seeds, but it becomes the largest of garden plants; it grows into a tree, and birds come and make nests in its branches.”

Now don't get me wrong, the mustard seed may not be smallest seed in the world, so why say it is? In all truth the Word speaks to us in a way we can relate. I am sure that some people may have grown mustard in their garden at some point. Or seen it growing. It does get rather large, and Birds could easily build a nest in it. We have came to the understanding that in this story, the bird may well be seen as an evil doer. Just as the mustard plant is those that follow Yeshua.
(Luk 13:20, 21 )
Mat 13:33 Jesus also used this illustration: “The Kingdom of Heaven is like the yeast a woman used in making bread. Even though she put only a little yeast in three measures of flour, it permeated every part of the dough.”

For any that don't understand what yeast symbioses, it is sin. So from this one can see that even the smallest sin can take over the whole of persons being. Their mind, body, and soil.

Therefore choose, life or death
All first born flesh is reckoned as dead to begin with
Father sent Son to save us as if never sinned, what? Col 1
Yep, the way, the truth and new life offered everyone in the risen Son. Whoever seeks this out, it be Father that decides when to reveal truth to anyone in their walk. Time to get sincere I think, and yet see to not think, when I think, overthink, doubt seems to weave its way in and cause more troubles.
thanks Rainrider for your posts
In the risen Son given, with Father there too, Sin is over ridden and taken from us, at least me, those that are willing for Daddy's lead through them, come to see it, provided one will not quit belief to see it eventually. I saw, to come to the energy of my own flesh trying to be perfect and trust God Father in risen Son's done work first, seeing The Epistle to the Galatians, I see from Daddy, PaPa, Father the relation, and am thankful, seeing this, without Daddy, I am no one ever. Not, that I am anyone now, I am not, just a willing person in belief to Father's love and mercy for me and all others also, through risen Son over the dead one many are trying to imitate. I see, saw "I" can't "I" need Daddy's lead not mine or anyone else's thank you

 

[Rainrider]

HI, Rainrider. It is odd that your group agree that the good soil is the whole Word of God, when the text clearly says the good soil is an honest and good heart. and the text says that the seed is the word of God. How did you arrive at the soil being the whole word of Goda?

HI, Rainrider. It is odd that your group agree that the good soil is the whole Word of God, when the text clearly says the good soil is an honest and good heart. and the text says that the seed is the word of God. How did you arrive at the soil being the whole word of Goda?

Mat 13:23 The seed that fell on good soil represents those who truly hear and understand God’s word and produce a harvest of thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times as much as had been planted!”
Quoted from my post.
We are divided on some things here. So we are going to just place what we do agree on. The Good soil is the Whole of the Word.
We came to this by simply looking past the wording and seeking truth. If one looks to whole of scripture, (something that would take way to long on here), we find that the seed can't grow without soil, or being cared for. Though the seed is also the Word, the earth is it's soil. Don't get me wrong, both can be the Word, it is all about perspective.
When one plaints a seed, it is up to the soil if it grows or not. When one plaints a seed of faith, the earth, (or the people around them) can kill it before it has a chance to grow.

 

[Rainrider]

The koinE Greek text says the mustard seed "which is a lesser of all the seeds", ὃ (which, relative pronoun) μικρότερον (a lesser, comparative anarthrous) μέν (indeed) ἐστιν (is) πάντων (of all) τῶν σπερμάτων (of the seeds ) - which it is.

If you take the time to do a search on the smallest seed you will find the mustered seed isn't the smallest.
However, as we should all know when this was first penned, the people worked with they knew best. Knowing that more seen, plaited, and cared for the mustered seed, that was the symbol of choice. When we study, we look at everything that comes to mind. This topic did bring up the vary thing you asked about. The smallest seed know to us oddly belongs an orchid, species.
I am sure you seen the post above that made the claim Gentiles can't understand the Word. This is what he was speaking of, how most seldom look past the words to seek it's true meaning.

 

[Rainrider]

Therefore choose, life or death
All first born flesh is reckoned as dead to begin with
Father sent Son to save us as if never sinned, what? Col 1
Yep, the way, the truth and new life offered everyone in the risen Son. Whoever seeks this out, it be Father that decides when to reveal truth to anyone in their walk. Time to get sincere I think, and yet see to not think, when I think, overthink, doubt seems to weave its way in and cause more troubles.
thanks Rainrider for your posts
In the risen Son given, with Father there too, Sin is over ridden and taken from us, at least me, those that are willing for Daddy's lead through them, come to see it, provided one will not quit belief to see it eventually. I saw, to come to the energy of my own flesh trying to be perfect and trust God Father in risen Son's done work first, seeing The Epistle to the Galatians, I see from Daddy, PaPa, Father the relation, and am thankful, seeing this, without Daddy, I am no one ever. Not, that I am anyone now, I am not, just a willing person in belief to Father's love and mercy for me and all others also, through risen Son over the dead one many are trying to imitate. I see, saw "I" can't "I" need Daddy's lead not mine or anyone else's thank you

You speak well of what we as man kind face. Like any human, we face trials, and temptation. As you said, without HaShem, we have little hope.

 

[homwardbound]

Mat 13:23 The seed that fell on good soil represents those who truly hear and understand God’s word and produce a harvest of thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times as much as had been planted!”
Quoted from my post.
We are divided on some things here. So we are going to just place what we do agree on. The Good soil is the Whole of the Word.
We came to this by simply looking past the wording and seeking truth. If one looks to whole of scripture, (something that would take way to long on here), we find that the seed can't grow without soil, or being cared for. Though the seed is also the Word, the earth is it's soil. Don't get me wrong, both can be the Word, it is all about perspective.
When one plaints a seed, it is up to the soil if it grows or not. When one plaints a seed of faith, the earth, (or the people around them) can kill it before it has a chance to grow.

I see 1 Cor 15, does a beautiful Job, in revealing the truth along with John 16:33 Son, has overcome this world and was buried in soil and overcame it in his resurrection, that Father approved of for us all to choose to believe, God does love us all, and I see that as truth, otherwise Son would not have gone to that cross without any fight back, to me this I see and now am thankful, and thank you for your posts revealed to you too

 

[homwardbound]

You speak well of what we as man kind face. Like any human, we face trials, and temptation. As you said, without HaShem, we have little hope.

I read Ecclesiastes, the entire book of, in the wisdom given Solomon, there is a time for everything to do or not do, as Dad leads not me or anyone else. Son only did what Father said to do, only!
Seeing that and hearing please trust God first in all things. I am Learning to let go of impulsive thinking and stand in trust to Father and Son as won (One), to come to understand Luke 21:14-15 and Luke 21:1-4, as well as Matthew 10:16-20. especially Phil 3, with Phil 1:6
I got a message. "God just Loves us all" Otherwise, Son would never have willingly gone to that cross, Only one choice left, to believe God in risen Son or not. Me, I see to be dependent now on God and not self at all or others as well anymore. I see to listen to all, yet take all to Daddy, PaPa, Father in prayer to hear truth over error, that can take a while to hear, and has many a times in my walk here on earth, daily off a short pier, with the "I" of me in the way as religion(s) I see promote the self over God in the lead very sneakily
Which only Daddy, Father, PaPa can reveal and his children know and yet remain humble confidently
Thanks

 

[Rainrider]

One thing I notice about how Jesus lived His life in Luke 5:12-13.
I notice that it was always Jesus will to heal those who came to Him to do so. He did not leave anyone sick who came to Him for healing. He never attributed sickness to God. Why do so many think the Father, Son and Holy Spirit want them to be sick?

In my way of thinking, they hold little understanding of the Word. Although as seen, Yeshua also said not all illness is due to sin. John 2:2-3
Not all illness is because of sin, though some may be. It is the some may be that many people have held onto, due in part to them not knowing the Word. At lest that is how we understand it, though, we can't see into the hearts and minds of others, we are making an educated guess.

 

[Rainrider]

HI, Rainrider. It is odd that your group agree that the good soil is the whole Word of God, when the text clearly says the good soil is an honest and good heart. and the text says that the seed is the word of God. How did you arrive at the soil being the whole word of Goda?

It has been eating at me that I seem to have not really given a clear answer to this post. Please except my apology.
As we know, HaShem used His Word to create almost everything. By His Word the earth was created, as well as the seed. However when came to Man, He used his hands. He formed us from the dust of the earth, then breathed life into us.
It is this that leads us to understand 2 things about what you asked.
First HaShem created the earth, This, by way of seeing things, can be seen as what we call the old testament.
Second, the seed was created after the earth, and brought life to the earth. As this can be seen as the New testament, or as some of us think, the seed is Yeshua.
Now as we know, the earth wouldn't be the same with the seed. One completes the other, and helps the other in many ways. If you take a seed and put it in the sun it will rot, and do no one any good. Yet if we pare it with the earth, and care for it, it becomes a plant. This plant will feed us, or give us shade to rest in.
So the idea that whole of the earth, and the seed are the whole Word, is clear to us. Just as your idea of a kind heart can also be true. You see, only a kind heart would take the time to weed a garden, water it, do all they can to make sure it grows.
I hope this makes our understanding a bit more clear. Again I ask that you over look my past reply. When I answered you, I was faced with some things I had to work through in my own heart.

 

[Rainrider]

Mat 13:34 Jesus always used stories and illustrations like these when speaking to the crowds. In fact, he never spoke to them without using such parables.
Mat 13:35 This fulfilled what God had spoken through the prophet: “I will speak to you in parables. I will explain things hidden since the creation of the world.

When we look at this do we ever ask what is being explained? I know at one time I didn't. However, as time goes on and I started to truly study the word rather than just read it, many things have came to light. The best thing is that the world gives testimony to HaShem.
Mat 13:36 Then, leaving the crowds outside, Jesus went into the house. His disciples said, “Please explain to us the story of the weeds in the field.”
Mat 13:37 Jesus replied, “The Son of Man is the farmer who plants the good seed.
Mat 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the people of the Kingdom. The weeds are the people who belong to the evil one.
Mat 13:39 The enemy who planted the weeds among the wheat is the devil. The harvest is the end of the world, and the harvesters are the angels.
Mat 13:40 “Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world.
Mat 13:41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.

Though some may say, "See the Law has been removed, after all it is the reason for our sin." That isn't right. You see the Law only has the power to point out our sin, so that we may recognize it, and remove it from our lives. Here is a new way of looking at it. Let say your driving to the next town, and the speed limit is 65 MPH. So long as you drive at 65 your with in the law, and there is no condemnation. If you drive 75, your out side the law, and if you get pulled over, you are condemned by that law.
Much the same is true with HaShem's Law. So long as we walk with in the Law there is no condemnation. Yet if have a brain fart, and get out side of the Law, we then place ourselves under the condemnation of the Law. So will we be forced to pay the price for this? If we ask forgiveness no, we are not. If we don't ask, then yes we will answer for that sin when we face Judgement.
Mat 13:42 And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom. Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!

Two things here. The angles know their job, so they can remove the weeds without bring harm to the wheat. The other, we are told to listen and understand. How can we hope to understand when so many look past it, or only look at the words? Yes I know in past post I have said we must look at what is clearly stated. Yet at the same time I have said, we must look past the words, and seek what is behind them. No I am not asking anyone to try and pull the words from the page to look under them. As we have learned from our Rabbi, HaShem can be found in the blank spaces between the letters. I know it sound odd to say that, yet it has shown to be true.
Without getting into the full debate we had on this, we will just say this. When we study, we seek the meaning of the words. Not just this word or that one, the whole of the words placed before us. So if we are looking at the word feast, we feel it must looked at from what the Word gives us, in hopes of finding the who, what, when, where, and how. If you follow my writing, you already know that we do our best to leave no stone unturned. In turning over every rock, we may find something that was not said, yet was implied. That implied part, comes from between the words.

 

[TruthDefender]

Knowing this, and knowing that we are to emulate His life in our own why do so many know so little about Him?

If you read the whole NC, you will know Him as well as His Father, because they are one in understanding.

He instructed His 12 to lay down the pattern for us to live by in the NC…..

 

[Rainrider]

If you read the whole NC, you will know Him as well as His Father, because they are one in understanding.

He instructed His 12 to lay down the pattern for us to live by in the NC…..

If I may ask, what is the biblical definition of the New Covenant?