Do we have a choice?

[selahsays]

Plagiarize?

Yeah. He also has many aliases.

 

[Johann]

Who are you quoting here without giving credit? Also known as plagiarism. I have asked before and gotten no answer.

I found it here (<= link).

Nice try-from my e sword quoting Scriptures-the link you just share does not come from me.

Hinei, I have stood at the delet (door) DOFEK (“knocking,” SHIR HASHIRIM 5:2); if anyone hears my kol and opens the delet, indeed I will come in to him and we, the two of us, will dine together at the BEIT HAYAYIN [“Banquet Hall,” SHIR HASHIRIM 2:4].
The one who wins the nitzachon (victory), I will give to him to sit with me on the Kes (Throne) of me, as I also won the nitzachon and sat with Elohim Avi on the Kes (throne) of him.
The one having an ear let him hear what the Ruach Hakodesh says to the Kehillot.


ιδου εστηκα επι την θυραν και κρουω εαν τις ακουση της φωνης μου και ανοιξη την θυραν εισελευσομαι προς αυτον και δειπνησω μετ αυτου και αυτος μετ εμου
ο νικων δωσω αυτω καθισαι μετ εμου εν τω θρονω μου ως καγω ενικησα και εκαθισα μετα του πατρος μου εν τω θρονω αυτου
ο εχων ους ακουσατω τι το πνευμα λεγει ταις εκκλησιαις

Rev 3:20 Ἰδοὺ Idou|G2400|V-AMA-2S|Behold, ἕστηκα hestēka|G2476|V-RIA-1S|I stand ἐπὶ epi|G1909|Prep|at τὴν tēn|G3588|Art-AFS|the θύραν thyran|G2374|N-AFS|door καὶ kai|G2532|Conj|and κρούω· krouō|G2925|V-PIA-1S|knock. ἐάν ean|G1437|Conj|If τις tis|G5100|IPro-NMS|anyone ἀκούσῃ akousē|G191|V-ASA-3S|should hear τῆς tēs|G3588|Art-GFS|the φωνῆς phōnēs|G5456|N-GFS|voice μου mou|G1473|PPro-G1S|of Me καὶ kai|G2532|Conj|and ἀνοίξῃ anoixē|G455|V-ASA-3S|open τὴν tēn|G3588|Art-AFS|the θύραν, thyran|G2374|N-AFS|door, ‹καὶ› kai|G2532|Conj|then εἰσελεύσομαι eiseleusomai|G1525|V-FIM-1S|I will come in πρὸς pros|G4314|Prep|to αὐτὸν auton|G846|PPro-AM3S|him, καὶ kai|G2532|Conj|and δειπνήσω deipnēsō|G1172|V-FIA-1S|will dine μετ’ met’|G3326|Prep|with αὐτοῦ autou|G846|PPro-GM3S|him, καὶ kai|G2532|Conj|and αὐτὸς autos|G846|PPro-NM3S|he μετ’ met’|G3326|Prep|with ἐμοῦ. emou|G1473|PPro-G1S|Me.

You want the "link"

 

[Johann]

Yep, he does that a lot—plagiarizes, that is. Also, he has many aliases.

I have many aliases? Please provide the proof of this.

 

[Magenta]

Nice try-from my e sword quoting Scriptures-the link you just share does not come from me.

Quoting Scripture is one thing, and quite acceptable.

Not giving sources for other material is plagiarism. Now you know.

And what do you mean, nice try? I am doing you a favor.

You are not quoting Scripture, either, in that post I quoted.

Nor was it Scripture you had posted that I quoted when I asked before. When you did not answer. Here.

 

[selahsays]

I have many aliases? Please provide the proof of this.

Nah…. What for?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Gnosis-or epignosis?
Can you give me some Scripture references re your assertion?
J.

sure I can try to I’m just an amateur so near with me

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬

as we hear the truth Jesus came to teach mankind in the gospel

“….Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as we hear the gospel and begin to allow it to be truth it is creating a choice in us by revealing what we didn’t know before it can have this effect of we choose Christ

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

imagine a man who has been in prison many years but only he never knew he was in prison he was born there raised there among the other prisoners but he thought “ this is me , this is life “ in his mind he doesn’t even understand there’s an outside free world he’s never heard anything about it . All he knows is what he knows

but let’s say someone actuallly sneaks into the prison from tbe free world outside and starts telling the prisoners “ did you know you guys are in prison ? And tbat there’s a world outside where everyone is free and there aren’t theee walls and razor wire everywhere ? No armed guards looking over your shoulder dictating when and where and how you do everything you do ?

did you know there’s an outside world that’s far better than the prison ? And suppose he then starts telling them you can leave this prison and be free if you listen to the Lords gospel and believe him ! All you have to do is start learning from this one particular Guy he’s the governor nd rules over the warden he can pardon any one of you and set you free if you come to him ….


can you see on this sort of crude and poorly presented idea here ….how that would then begin to create a choice within the prisoners who heard and actually believed what the person was saying ? How it would begin to give them power to act knowing what to do now and going to the right words of truth that promises a new freedom and life outside the prison ? Under a totally new covenant ? Prisoners have one set of rules on tbe inside but the free folk enroll have a law it’s just a law for free folks and allows mercy and judgement ect rather than a list of prison rules ruling inmates who don’t have any choice until …..they here about it d believe and pursue it

 

[Johann]

Nah…. What for?

You are a accuser of the brethren-a little fox, please provide Evidential proof I am using different aliases-you and 2 other members are going on ignore-stat.
J.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

So you can't give me what I'm asking for?

I did johan, albeit it was a bit of an uppercut.

I was quoting Ephesians 6 the fight is until the end.

Which makes the world one big boxing ring, so there will be fighters and different fighters like Armenians and Calvinists.

 

[Magenta]

the link you just share does not come from me.

About this ^ part: that is immaterial, since multiple people/sites may be copying
the same material you are. What is important is that you give the source you used.

That should be easy enough for you to understand, yes?

Please let me know you understand...

 

[Johann]

About this ^ part: that is immaterial, since multiple people/sites may be copying
the same material you are. What is important is that you give the source you used.

I have warned you-making unsubstantial claims about me-instead of a apology, you persist.
Adieu
J.

 

[Johann]

sure I can try to I’m just an amateur so near with me

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬

as we hear the truth Jesus came to teach mankind in the gospel

“….Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as we hear the gospel and begin to allow it to be truth it is creating a choice in us by revealing what we didn’t know before it can have this effect of we choose Christ

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

imagine a man who has been in prison many years but only he never knew he was in prison he was born there raised there among the other prisoners but he thought “ this is me , this is life “ in his mind he doesn’t even understand there’s an outside free world he’s never heard anything about it . All he knows is what he knows

but let’s say someone actuallly sneaks into the prison from tbe free world outside and starts telling the prisoners “ did you know you guys are in prison ? And tbat there’s a world outside where everyone is free and there aren’t theee walls and razor wire everywhere ? No armed guards looking over your shoulder dictating when and where and how you do everything you do ?

did you know there’s an outside world that’s far better than the prison ? And suppose he then starts telling them you can leave this prison and be free if you listen to the Lords gospel and believe him ! All you have to do is start learning from this one particular Guy he’s the governor nd rules over the warden he can pardon any one of you and set you free if you come to him ….


can you see on this sort of crude and poorly presented idea here ….how that would then begin to create a choice within the prisoners who heard and actually believed what the person was saying ? How it would begin to give them power to act knowing what to do now and going to the right words of truth that promises a new freedom and life outside the prison ? Under a totally new covenant ? Prisoners have one set of rules on tbe inside but the free folk enroll have a law it’s just a law for free folks and allows mercy and judgement ect rather than a list of prison rules ruling inmates who don’t have any choice until …..they here about it d believe and pursue it

This was sweet brother. Thank you for the contribution.
Johann.

 

[Magenta]

I have warned you-making unsubstantial claims about me-instead of a apology, you persist.
Adieu
J.

What do you mean, unsubstantial claims? You copied material not
your own and did not give a source for it, which is against the rules.

Will you apologize to me for your false accusations? Very unlikely.

I'll just start reporting you for plagiarism.

No doubt there is a plethora of material to choose from.

 

[vassal]

The right knowledge creates a choice

I would rather say that Knowledge helps in making a choice, getting knowledge is also a choice. God directs us to know scripture and follow his word.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Psa 32:8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

I've got a pocket full of mumbles and my story must be told.

I take what I want and I disregard the rest.

This sounds funny lol

 

[Pilgrimshope]

This was sweet brother. Thank you for the contribution.
Johann.

Thanks also for your presentation and understanding through exhibiting the right spirit

“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty;

only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh,

but by love serve one another.

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:13-15‬ ‭

God bLess and keep you

 

[Johann]

Thanks also for your presentation and understanding through exhibiting the right spirit

“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty;

only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh,

but by love serve one another.

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:13-15‬ ‭

God bLess and keep you

Shalom to you and family dear fellow Pilgrim and thank you for the Scripture references.
Johann.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Shalom to you and family dear fellow Pilgrim and thank you for the Scripture references.
Johann.

your a good brother at heart johann, dont be disheartened.

But I want to equip you to take every shot on the chin.

I know a lot about predestination, I've had premonitions my whole life.

So I am equipped to help you.

 

[Magenta]

The Mennonites are a branch of the Christian church that originated from the radical wing of the 16th-century Protestant Reformation. They are part of the Anabaptist group, known for rebaptizing adult believers, and took their name from Menno Simons, a Dutch priest who converted to the Anabaptist faith in the mid-16th century. Mennonites are recognized for their emphasis on peace, justice, simplicity, community, service, and mutual aid. They maintain a strong commitment to pacifism and service to others as expressions of their faith. Mennonites have a diverse global presence, with churches in North and South America, Africa, Europe, and Asia. The movement has roots in Swiss and German heritage and continues to uphold traditions while adapting to modern contexts.

What was your source for this?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Shalom to you and family dear fellow Pilgrim and thank you for the Scripture references.
Johann.

The same to you brother thanks for the discussion in tbe right spirit and for the things you offer

 

[Johann]

your a good brother at heart johann, dont be disheartened.

But I want to equip you to take every shot on the chin.

I know a lot about predestination, I've had premonitions my whole life.

So I am equipped to help you.

Just watch my back with @Magenta @selahsays and one other member who are spreading lies about me on this Forum-accusing me of using different aliases and plagiarism-accusers of the brethren and I might report them to the Staff member.
And as to premonitions I have discernment from the Holy Spirit and as to the doctrine of sanctification-feel free to share what you know as I have made an in depth study on this, in the Hebrew Text and Greek.
Doesn't mean I know it all-I have just learned a bit on open theism and it is shocking.
Thanks
J.