Hebrews 1 says this:
Hebrews 1:
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Is Jesus the "express image" of the Father's person, making Him the One who is just like His Father?
Is Jesus a messenger for the Father in those verses?
6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Do the created ("maketh", vs 7) angels worship Jesus?
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Is Jesus anointed above His "fellows"? Who are the "fellows" in the context? Why are they His "fellows"? What is their job/position?
If Jesus is a messenger of the Father, is He the lowest or highest messenger of the Father?
Use the same argument:
Isa 43:28: "Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches."
Is Jesus a "prince" of "the sanctuary"?
I noticed that too a few years ago. If Michael was Jesus then he would not be just 'one' of the chief princes but 'the' chief prince.
This person, standing before Joshua son of Nun, is?
Joshua 5:
13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?
15 And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
Not in Revelation. Throughout that book He's consistently called the Lamb. If it was really him who defeated Satan, it would've said that the Lamb fought with Satan and his angels, not Michael.
Actually there's an important lesson there. Satan was a "covering cherub", like the two cherubim that cover God's throne on the Ark of the Covenant; Angels though are generally in much lower rank than cherub. But in Rev. 12, an archangel defeated Satan, not because Michael's angels are twice of Satan's, but Michael is empowered by God. It's very humiliating to Satan that he couldn't prevail over an underling archangel.
Is Michael your Savior? Don't you know? Jesus is my Savior.You are saying that the following is not a reference to the Son of the Father?
Ezek 34:24: "And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it."
Ezek 34:23: "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd."
Ezek 37:24: "And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them."
Ezek 37:25: "And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever."
Where does the NT say Michael is our Savior? It doesn't! It says ONLY Jesus is THE Savior. Michael is BARELY mentioned in the NT!You think so?
This is Christianity basics:
1 Corinthians 15:
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"Michael is your Savior? Show us that in the NT."You seemed to have lost the part of the reply where "SDA" believe that Jesus and Michael are but two names/designations for the same Person/Being, that of the Son. Just like Immanuel, or David or Adam, or Word, etc.
You haven't showed anywhere in the Bible that Michael is God nor Savior. Precise? Yeah, precisely evasive!No, I'm being precise and accurate.
You can't show Scripture that says Michael is God nor Savior. I know.Is the Word the Saviour?
Is Immanuel the Saviour?
Is the last Adam the Saviour?
Is the David of Ezekiel the Saviour?
If indeed that Michael is simply another name/designation for the Son of the Father, the question is simply answered, isn't it?
Why are you avoiding NT like it's plague?You are saying that the following is not a reference to the Son of the Father?
Ezek 34:24: "And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it."
Ezek 34:23: "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd."
Ezek 37:24: "And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them."
Ezek 37:25: "And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever."
How many times is Michael in the NT? How many times is Jesus in the NT? Jesus is my Savior. Not Michael, "one of the chief princes"! God isn't "one of the chief princes"!How many times is "Immanuel" in the OT and how many times is "Emmanuel" in the NT? The number of times in plethora or scarcity does not validate or invalidate a teaching. I do hope that you can begin to see the unbalance of your measuring scales.
Read the context.I noticed that too a few years ago. If Michael was Jesus then he would not be just 'one' of the chief princes but 'the' chief prince.
"princes" in that verse simply means 'ruler'. You are saying that "God" is not one of the rulers?How many times is Michael in the NT? How many times is Jesus in the NT? Jesus is my Savior. Not Michael, "one of the chief princes"! God isn't "one of the chief princes"!
Daniel 10:13 (NKJV)
13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia.