Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Jesus said it a little differently. Hearing isn't hearing but not listening, but rather hearing but not understanding, and seeing isn't seeing but not looking but seeing and not understanding the significance and meaning of what they see. In other words, the true meaning is lost to them.
It just came to mind as I was preparing a cup of coffee to assuage this migraine developing, in regard to the making the choice with Christ more precious, Adam is told that if he ate, in dying you will die which alludes to the second death. And I'm not sure dying, twice which seems to imply a complete death, is actually a revocation of a gift or a (what's the other fancy word that alludes to surrendering something over?".
Thank you! You have thought this out much deeper than I have. It's a lot to take in. I'm not laughing, but it will take some thought on my part.
The phrase God's gifts are irrevocable is paired with His call in Romans 11:29 ~ For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. Any who, Adam was of the natural world. I cannot count the number of times I have seen people say Adam was perfect. Eh? If Adam was perfect, would he have sinned? I don't think so. God called His handiwork good a number of times, and then very good after Eve was made. I don't know how free Adam's will was, and I do not believe slaves to sin have a will that is free either. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world.
I answered, it's just that you didn't accept it. But I don't begrudge you that freedom. I only request you ask yourself why actually believe something is so rather than using that particular belief as a "cookie cutter" to compare other perspectives against. Otherwise, you'll only see other cookie cutters as not the same as yours. But sometimes what looks like a star cookie cutter might actually turn out be a sunflower cookie cutter. Or an egg might actually be an egg. It's okay to think beyond what a teacher has shown you. I mean, I still love my kindergarten teacher for what she taught me.
All of that which God has to offer, all gifts from Him, is in waiting (in store) for anyone that asks. But too many are happy with the world's offerings, which is junk in comparison.
no its not. The question you purpose is TRICK ONE OR lacks context Biblically it can never be just yes or no. To you maybe. That is opinionated
Disagree but in my haste, I slightly mis-quoted the verse, however, I do not believe it fundamentally changed its meaning.
This is directly from the Bible. I don't see where any restriction or limitation explicitly or implicitly placed upon whom the
verse was intended to be for. It is a statement intended for all who read it. After all, it was written by God, not man, and as such, it was an instruction to man regarding how the Bible is to be approached in order to find its message.
[2Pe 1:19-20 KJV]
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
How can you reject Jesus without knowing what He said?
16 “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
How many times have you met someone and chose not to be a witness to them?
You control whether the Divine Appointment ever happens.
This doctrine God made me be saved is laughable.
Why didn't God open your mouth to be a Witness whenever you chose not to be one but had the opportunity to be one?
We're all guilty.
But we control many times whether the Divine Appointment happens or not.
Thank you! You have thought this out much deeper than I have. It's a lot to take in. I'm not laughing, but it will take some thought on my part.
Thank you BillyBob, I really appreciate your comment. At minimum, I hope it at least opens up another line of reasoning
normally not associated with those verses. Please keep me updated as to your thoughts on it, as we can all learn from each other.
Roger