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Is it me or is there an increase in those attacking the Trinity Concept today?

Please remember Brother sister if a Pastor, minister, or any one else for that matter spends there who Theological learning to prove one topic they are most likely wrong or have right :).

Pray read your Bible and you will see in the word of of God The Father who is God, the son who is God, and the Holy Spirit who is God yet one. if we leave it there and agree with what we see in the word of God you don't end up with

Modes, manifestation, Modalism, Sabellianism, or oneness.
 
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Is it me or is there an increase in those attacking the Trinity Concept today?
Perhaps the Trinity Concept isn't the only area of people being misled. Personally I am becoming increasingly aware that the church is under attack both from within and without with less than true teaching.The within part is really disturbing for me. I have recently seen a pastor teach error, quench the Holy Spirit. become an absolute control freak, become an egomaniac. We have left that church.
I went trough a demonic attack at a small home group (Called themselves Christian) meeting that eventually cost me my lower left leg.
I now realize that putting blind faith in any pastor/teacher is naive. According to scripture we are to 'test all thing, prove all things...'

Please remember Brother sister if a Pastor, minister, or any one else for that matter spends there who Theological learning to prove one topic they are most likely wrong or have right :).

Agreed as said above

Pray read your Bible and you will see in the word of of God The Father who is God, the son who is God, and the Holy Spirit who is God yet one. if we leave it there and agree with what we see in the word of God you don't end up with
Modes, manifestation, Modalism, Sabellianism, or oneness.

This is outside the area of my study for now. Hopefully I can remember to come back to it. The bible must be the ultimate safe source of knowledge and then become understanding
 

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Hello everyone, Today is Labor Day and the coming close of Summer. I hope you all are remaining in a prayerful mindset. The next couple of months are going to be very interesting. In the public school system in CA, many technology departments want to move all students to Fingerprint ID. In addition, the lawlessness is going as we see in Colorado. Many breaks are happening by migrant gangs. Now, some bike gangs are talking about going to CO. WE don't need a biker gang taking care of a migrant gang. We Need Jesus and move of God.
 

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Hello everyone, Today is Labor Day and the coming close of Summer. I hope you all are remaining in a prayerful mindset. The next couple of months are going to be very interesting. In the public school system in CA, many technology departments want to move all students to Fingerprint ID. In addition, the lawlessness is going as we see in Colorado. Many breaks are happening by migrant gangs. Now, some bike gangs are talking about going to CO. WE don't need a biker gang taking care of a migrant gang. We Need Jesus and move of God.
Please pray for me here in CA as I will preach a message Sunday Lord willing
 

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FAITH, PRAYER, and POWER
Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Three things seem very simple to believers in Christ, yet many today are unlearned. Everything God does for us must be done with those who are in a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 3:16-18

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Romans chapter 10: 9-10

9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.

Lord, help me to speak your word as You have, I believe, given it to me. Let everything bring you glory and edification to your Body in Jesus' name, I pray, amen.


I do my best to simplify the three: FAITH, PRAYER, POWER. This one three will have three parts and a closing
 

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What is faith?

Answer: Read Hebrews 11:1

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

What does this verse mean?

Faith is "real" or a substance that will produce hope in a person to receive things that only God can provide but have not received it. But as you wait, you are fully confident, persuaded, and believing God can do it. You Place your faith and hope and trust in GOD.

Read Hebrews 11:3-8 SAYS:

3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things seen were not made of visible things.
4 By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks.

5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.

Faith acts on the unknown but trusts God; we have faith God created THE HEAVENS and the Earth. Yet No man has seen the earth being made.

Noah had never seen rain or flood before, but God told him to prepare a boat because he was about to see something that had never been done before. He believed in God's Word. Over and over again, we see faith demonstrated by those who trusted God in His word to do what the world mocked and scoffed at that time. Noah was not put to shame; none in the testimony of faith, as we read in Hebrews 11, saw God fail. And we who trust in the Lord will never see Him fail us. amen

Without Faith, it is impossible to please God.
 

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Faith Leads us into Prayer.


When faith is in operation effective Prayer can be done.

Prayer done without faith is not praying at all. Jesus said in Mark 11:22-23

20 Now in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. 21 And Peter, remembering, said to Him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree which You cursed has withered away.”

22 So Jesus answered and said to them, “Have faith in God.

23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. 24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.

What is Prayer ?


The most basic definition of prayer is “talking to God.”
And it is waiting for GOD to speak back to you.


Prayer is Dialog between you and God through the method and channels HE has provided. We who have a relationship with Christ Must pray by faith through Jesus Christ our Lord and stand on the word of GOD. Jesus is the Door and the way. The word of God shows us many forms of prayer:

  • Supplication = asking God to be gracious, show favour, pity Ps 6:9 Phil 4:6
  • Interceding, or Intercession to bring light into a situation prayer being offered for anyone Romans 8:26 faith and prayer go hand in hand
  • Personal prayer, and Group Prayer
  • Praying in the Spirit, Spirit-filled prayer, and Spirit Led prayer
Prayer must be done in humility and cause the one to search their heart to ask God to Forgive you and to remove anything that would hinder or prevent God from hearing your prayer, let alone answering it.
One thing for sure that will Hinder your prayer is:

Unforgiveness. Jesus said in Matthew 6:15 NLT
“But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.”

Unsaved Isa 59:2
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Unrepented Ps 66:18
The Lord would not have listened if I had not confessed the sin in my heart.

Why is Faith and prayer important to you and me today?
Faith is what is needed to please God. Prayer is speaking with God, and God speaks back to you by HIS word so you receive the Power to be an effective Witness of the resurrected Lord. Prayer is a lifestyle and essential for a believer. One who doesn't pray is backslidden and playing, which leads to straying. We must ensure our ability to pray is as normal as Breathing and eating. amen
 

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POWER to be a Witness

The gift of the Holy Spirit is what God desires to give each and every one of you. When you open your mouth and tell everyone about Jesus, HE provides power to confirm to the hearers that Jesus is alive. Do you want that power of God, the Gift of the Holy Spirit that has to be received by faith through prayer if you are in a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ?

It is not about the gifts. It is about Jesus whom the Holy Spirit will speak about, as Jesus said in John 16:7-15



7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.


12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.


The Holy Spirit empowers you to be an effective and powerful witness of the resurrected Lord. Many have received emotional experiences and seek the gift more than knowing more of Jesus, the Baptizer in the Holy Spirit. It is not about speaking in tongues or Prophesying. The gifts of the Holy Spirit confirm the Gospel message of the Lord Jesus Christ, comfort and edify the body of Christ and Lead the unsaved into a relationship with our Lord. There is a hindering move of the Holy Spirit because of unforgiveness and unrepentance. The Holy Spirit will not be a part of foolishness. He knows mind and will of GOD. He will not fail. Seek the empowerment of the Holy Spirit as Jesus to baptize you in the Holy Spirit, lift up your hands, proclaim the word of God, and pray for the Lord to confirm His word with signs and wonders for HIS glory. Amen,
 

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Send you a Prayer request.
 

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Mario is a Brother whom I know and love. I have spoken to him only a few times, but this message I agree with and prayed about.
 

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The election is over, but the work has just begun. The church must still pray and call for repentance. I believe God has given America another opportunity to repent and return. We can not stand by any longer and pervert the love of God and accept the lies of the devil that have crept into the church.

  • Transgenderism and LGBTQ are of the devil, and Perverting Gods' love to give this a pass is a sin by those who hold the title of Pastor.
  • Allowing people to be on the streets and walk around naked and defecating in public is Demonic, and those who support people to do this are hating their brothers and sisters. And it is racist.
  • Pastors and churches who are afraid of what people think about them more than what GOD said we shall not do is SIN!
  • We must return to the word of GOD and Truth.
 

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Now that the election is over I would like to encourage you to please pray:

  1. Repentance for our Nation
  2. POTUS Biden and POTUS Elect Trump
  3. peace for Israel and protection from our enemies bind the spirit of murder and hate
  4. those who rule in local , state , and federal goverment
  5. the school sytem
 

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Now that the election is over I would like to encourage you to please pray:

  1. Repentance for our Nation
  2. POTUS Biden and POTUS Elect Trump
  3. peace for Israel and protection from our enemies bind the spirit of murder and hate
  4. those who rule in local , state , and federal goverment
  5. the school sytem

If US America falls, is there any hope left for Christianity? I don’t think so….. I believe the spiritual battle is being fought over America right now..
 

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If US America falls, is there any hope left for Christianity? I don’t think so….. I believe the spiritual battle is being fought over America right now..
there is hope because if the Church is still here, then we will prevail. In CA THE CHURCH IS WINNING AND REVIVAL IS HAPPENING IN THE YOUTH. We need to continue praying and repenting and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ unapologetically.
 

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there is hope because if the Church is still here, then we will prevail. In CA THE CHURCH IS WINNING AND REVIVAL IS HAPPENING IN THE YOUTH. We need to continue praying and repenting and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ unapologetically.

Hope yes! But if you look at the general statistics, such as crime, divorce, drug addiction… man I don’t know maybe a little bit at the margins. I understand your point that we gotta keep going and never give up and always persevere..
 

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Hope yes! But if you look at the general statistics, such as crime, divorce, drug addiction… man I don’t know maybe a little bit at the margins. I understand your point that we gotta keep going and never give up and always persevere..
amen. I live in CA, and we have seen great victory through prayer. many fled CA, which I fully understand. Many of them stayed and have been fighting for the past 4 years. And it is only because we have stood in the gap. It will get worse, yet the Church will overcome. They believe if they put enough pressure on us, we will quit. The Spirit of GOD doesn't Quit.
 

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amen. I live in CA, and we have seen great victory through prayer. many fled CA, which I fully understand. Many of them stayed and have been fighting for the past 4 years. And it is only because we have stood in the gap. It will get worse, yet the Church will overcome. They believe if they put enough pressure on us, we will quit. The Spirit of GOD doesn't Quit.

Where in CA are you brother?