Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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We already know all about all that stuff. They've already been exposed and cast down.
Really? I missed that. So they have already been tried, convicted and imprisoned. Can you share a link of that when the judged sentenced them. thanks
 

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Really? I missed that. So they have already been tried, convicted and imprisoned. Can you share a link of that when the judged sentenced them. thanks
We've already been vindicated and cut the square out of their tunic while they were sleeping. It is enough that they stop seeking our blood. We do not want to destroy our own house like them. It is enough that the Lord give America this chance for mercy and repentance and we need to make the most of it that our people be not consumed forever and our nation be put to the sword.
 

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We've already been vindicated and cut the square out of their tunic while they were sleeping. It is enough that they stop seeking our blood. We do not want to destroy our own house like them. It is enough that the Lord give America this chance for mercy and repentance and we need to make the most of it that our people be not consumed forever and our nation be put to the sword.
Tell that to the people who have died in Afghanistan, and Ukraine and the 100,000 who died from Fentanyl in the US. Tell that to those who were trafficked sex slaves.

Tell that to the millions who lost their homes in the mortgage crisis and then helped pay the bonuses of the bankers.

Tell that to the thousands killed on 911 only to have the evidence of the crime shipped to China and melted down.

Tell that to the people who lost their lives to a bioweapon and could have been saved from HCQ and Ivermectin but they made that illegal and instead gave them remsdevir, and recommended they be put on ventilators which was almost 100% fatal.

I'm not interested in being "vindicated" this has always been about justice and returning to Jesus and living in righteousness.
 

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Tell that to the people who have died in Afghanistan, and Ukraine and the 100,000 who died from Fentanyl in the US. Tell that to those who were trafficked sex slaves.

Tell that to the millions who lost their homes in the mortgage crisis and then helped pay the bonuses of the bankers.

Tell that to the thousands killed on 911 only to have the evidence of the crime shipped to China and melted down.
Putin will end his war on Ukraine or be wiped off the face of the Earth. The cartels will be crushed and the invaders deported. The economy will be fixed. Bin Laden is dead and if the muslims dare to do another 9/11 then the tomb of Muhammad will be turned into a latrine.
 

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Putin will end his war on Ukraine or be wiped off the face of the Earth. The cartels will be crushed and the invaders deported. The economy will be fixed. Bin Laden is dead and if the muslims dare to do another 9/11 then the tomb of Muhammad will be turned into a latrine.
That is your opinion, my opinion is that we are looking at the fulfillment of prophecy in Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38, and Isaiah 17 as well as Revelation 17 and 18, Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13. Not to mention Joel, Hosea and Amos.
 

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That is your opinion, my opinion is that we are looking at the fulfillment of prophecy in Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38, and Isaiah 17 as well as Revelation 17 and 18, Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13. Not to mention Joel, Hosea and Amos.
Well you're switching subjects too quickly. In terms of this though, yea we're not in those days even remotely by reason that there will be pretty unmistakeable and unmissable events that precede them. Kinda hard to miss our old Enemy being thrown down here to give his crappy power to Gog, much less the great earthquake that shakes the whole Earth well before even that day happens
 

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Well you're switching subjects too quickly. In terms of this though, yea we're not in those days even remotely by reason that there will be pretty unmistakeable and unmissable events that precede them. Kinda hard to miss our old Enemy being thrown down here to give his crappy power to Gog, much less the great earthquake that shakes the whole Earth well before even that day happens
The crime is treason and those who are found guilty get the death penalty. Election fraud was part of it, selling out Afghanistan to the Taliban was part of it, 911, Mortgage meltdown, open border, it is all part of it.

Now if you are going to thoroughly deal with this you must have a tribunal and public executions. Everyone even remotely involved needs to know that it is very serious and if they are not careful they too will be executed. Perhaps 100 public executions followed by bringing in 3,000 or even 30,000 people to talk to the FBI. They have no idea who talked to them or what you know and they understand if they lie to you they could end up being executed as well. That results in another 100 public executions and that is how you get the full story.

But if Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son gets pardoned? Everyone knows it is a joke. How do you execute someone who compared to Hunter was a peon?
 

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The crime is treason and those who are found guilty get the death penalty. Election fraud was part of it, selling out Afghanistan to the Taliban was part of it, 911, Mortgage meltdown, open border, it is all part of it.

Now if you are going to thoroughly deal with this you must have a tribunal and public executions. Everyone even remotely involved needs to know that it is very serious and if they are not careful they too will be executed. Perhaps 100 public executions followed by bringing in 3,000 or even 30,000 people to talk to the FBI. They have no idea who talked to them or what you know and they understand if they lie to you they could end up being executed as well. That results in another 100 public executions and that is how you get the full story.

But if Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son gets pardoned? Everyone knows it is a joke. How do you execute someone who compared to Hunter was a peon?
Nah we're not gonna do all that. You're getting too much blended together and want to take us into the vicious downward spiral, and that's just not gonna happen. Trump is going to move us forward and God is going to bless us again and we're going to make the most of the blessings and praise Jesus.
 

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Yea told you. Since Biden did this we will not fault him, we're going to use it to get the J6 hostages released, all the patriots of J6 will no longer be vilified or have to worry about a tyrannical Stalinesque reprisal because of this. We're going to restore truth and order. Trump is not so bloody as you may wish he were.
 

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Wow. The fog of legitimacy has finally burned off in the dawning of the day.
But the wise guys knew what the Bidenistas were all about from day one.

"Corrupt To The Core": Dems In Disarray Over Hunter Pardon As 'Rule Of Law' Narrative Implodes

Let's take a look back at the self righteous Democrat finger wagging and self delusion that led up to this embarrassing moment...
Ain't it amazing that the liberals are actually furious that Biden didn't destroy his own son just so they could keep gaslighting and hating the conservatives? That's the thing about Satan's kids, they don't even really love eachother, they'll do anything to keep their delusion going.
 

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Nah we're not gonna do all that. You're getting too much blended together and want to take us into the vicious downward spiral, and that's just not gonna happen. Trump is going to move us forward and God is going to bless us again and we're going to make the most of the blessings and praise Jesus.
Habakkuk 1:2 O Lord, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save! 3 Why dost thou shew me iniquity, and cause me to behold grievance? for spoiling and violence are before me: and there are that raise up strife and contention. 4 Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth.

Lord Jesus this is what we have seen these past decades. During 911 the forensic investigation was nothing more than a cover up. During the Mortgage meltdown they gave the American people the middle finger as millions lost their homes in what was a clear violation of the fiduciary responsibility of the bankers and instead of going to prison they got bonuses. In Afghanistan those that helped the US got their names given to the Taliban for them to torture and kill. During the 2020 election anyone who had the nerve to question the election was censored, silenced, mocked, ridiculed and even imprisoned. We had grandparents imprisoned for praying outside of abortion clinics. People imprisoned for trespassing during January 6th. If you mentioned Hunter Biden's laptop you were attacked as though you were working with Russia, yet we have confirmed the laptop is authentic. But what happens, Hunter Biden is "pardoned" of all crimes regardless of whether or not he has been prosecuted for them.

5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvelously: for I will work a work in your days which ye will not believe, though it be told you. 6 For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwelling places that are not their's. 7 They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves. 8 Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat. 9 They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand. 10 And they shall scoff at the kings, and the princes shall be a scorn unto them: they shall deride every strong hold; for they shall heap dust, and take it.

Amen Lord. I trust you to hold the guilty accountable and to save the just. Lord Jesus vengeance is yours, I will declare your righteousness and mercy and call on people to repent of their sins and to turn to you for your salvation.
 

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I really do not think that this pardoning scheme is going to work.

Kyle Becker on X: "President Joe Biden should be required, by law, to explicitly list every crime for which he intends to pardon his son, Hunter Biden. Anything less than full disclosure not only erodes public trust but also raises profound constitutional questions about the misuse of executive https://t.co/e1HEEC3iRw" / X

President Joe Biden should be required, by law, to explicitly list every crime for which he intends to pardon his son, Hunter Biden. Anything less than full disclosure not only erodes public trust but also raises profound constitutional questions about the misuse of executive power. If the president issues a blanket pardon—granting his son immunity without clearly specifying the offenses—it could establish a dangerous precedent that undermines the rule of law.

A blanket pardon of this nature is an affront to the Constitution. Legal scholars and historians alike agree: the Founding Fathers did not intend for the pardon power to serve as a get-out-of-jail-free card for the politically connected. The framers envisioned a government rooted in accountability and transparency, yet here we are, watching the very pillars of justice wobble under the weight of partisan abuse.

If Hunter Biden were allowed to walk away from his legal troubles without the American public knowing the full extent of his wrongdoing, it would signal open season for corruption. Worse, it would grant Hunter Biden something no other U.S. citizen enjoys: absolute immunity from prosecution. Such a privilege flies in the face of the most basic principle of our justice system—"No one is above the law."

Blanket immunity for any U.S. citizen is unconstitutional and ripe for legal challenge. The precedent it sets is chilling. Imagine if every president could pardon their family members or close allies in this way. It would create a two-tiered justice system: one for the elite, who can commit crimes without consequence, and another for everyone else.
 

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Real Mac Report on X: "🚨Breaking: IRS Whistleblowers Supervisory Special Agent Gary Shapley and Special Agent Joe Ziegler made the following statement after Joe Biden pardoned his son, Hunter Biden. "No amount of lies or spin can hide the simple truth that the Justice Department nearly let the" / X

"No amount of lies or spin can hide the simple truth that the Justice Department nearly let the President's son off the hook for multiple felonies. We did our duty, told the truth, and followed the law. Anyone reading the President's excuses now should remember that Hunter Biden admitted to his tax crimes in federal court, that Hunter Biden's attorneys have targeted us for our lawful whistleblower disclosures, and that we are suing one of those attorneys for smearing us with false accusations."

"President Biden has the power to put his thumb on the scales of justice for his son, but at least he had to do it with a pardon explicitly for all the world to see rather than his political appointees doing it secretly behind the scenes. Either way it is a sad day for law abiding taxpayers to witness this special privilege for the powerful."
 

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I really do not think that this pardoning scheme is going to work.

Kyle Becker on X: "President Joe Biden should be required, by law, to explicitly list every crime for which he intends to pardon his son, Hunter Biden. Anything less than full disclosure not only erodes public trust but also raises profound constitutional questions about the misuse of executive https://t.co/e1HEEC3iRw" / X

President Joe Biden should be required, by law, to explicitly list every crime for which he intends to pardon his son, Hunter Biden. Anything less than full disclosure not only erodes public trust but also raises profound constitutional questions about the misuse of executive power. If the president issues a blanket pardon—granting his son immunity without clearly specifying the offenses—it could establish a dangerous precedent that undermines the rule of law.

A blanket pardon of this nature is an affront to the Constitution. Legal scholars and historians alike agree: the Founding Fathers did not intend for the pardon power to serve as a get-out-of-jail-free card for the politically connected. The framers envisioned a government rooted in accountability and transparency, yet here we are, watching the very pillars of justice wobble under the weight of partisan abuse.

If Hunter Biden were allowed to walk away from his legal troubles without the American public knowing the full extent of his wrongdoing, it would signal open season for corruption. Worse, it would grant Hunter Biden something no other U.S. citizen enjoys: absolute immunity from prosecution. Such a privilege flies in the face of the most basic principle of our justice system—"No one is above the law."

Blanket immunity for any U.S. citizen is unconstitutional and ripe for legal challenge. The precedent it sets is chilling. Imagine if every president could pardon their family members or close allies in this way. It would create a two-tiered justice system: one for the elite, who can commit crimes without consequence, and another for everyone else.
Hey at least Joe Biden is consistent. We used to think that nothing erodes trust more than stealing an election, but selling us out to the Taliban, opening the border to 20 million illegals, killing 100,000 with fentanyl overdose, and now pardoning Hunter. You got to hand it to him, he is consistent.
 

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32 Then Samuel said, “Bring Agag king of the Amalekites here to me.” So Agag came to him cautiously.

And Agag said, “Surely the bitterness of death is past.”

33 But Samuel said, “As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women.” And Samuel hacked Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.