Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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Lady Liberty: "No one is above the law"

Joe Biden: "Hold my Geritol"
 

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"Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, 'All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.' " Matthew 4:8-9
 

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This a big story. Much bigger than most realize.

BRAVO: BOOM! TRUMP SHOCKS THE DEEP STATE WITH PRIVATELY-FUNDED TRANSITION—NO GSA, NO TAXPAYER MONEY, NO COMPROMISE!

Ann Vandersteel™️ on X: "BRAVO: BOOM! 🚨TRUMP SHOCKS THE DEEP STATE WITH PRIVATELY-FUNDED TRANSITION—NO GSA, NO TAXPAYER MONEY, NO COMPROMISE! Trump’s MAGA administration just dropped a nuclear bomb on Washington’s corrupt establishment. By rejecting taxpayer-funded GSA tools and launching a fully" / X

NO TAXPAYERS, NO OVERSIGHT, NO LEAKS! In a jaw-dropping move, Trump has #signed the Transition Agreement with the outgoing Biden administration—but with one massive twist. There’s no GSA involvement. No government phones. No government buildings. Nothing.
 

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MJTruthUltra on X: "We have a pretty significant development… The Trump Admin finally signed the Transition Agreement with the Outgoing Biden Administration to hand off Control of the Government— but with a Twist… The entire transition Will Be PRIVATELY FUNDED, Not to Use tax-payer Dollars, GSA https://t.co/cU2ljY0J09" / X

We have a pretty significant development…

The Trump Admin finally signed the Transition Agreement with the Outgoing Biden Administration to hand off Control of the Government— but with a Twist… The entire transition Will Be PRIVATELY FUNDED, Not to Use tax-payer Dollars, GSA Technology, or Government Buildings

• What this means…? It means Trumps MAGA administration has decided to go dark and will is creating a closed circuit loop of communication and security. Trump’s administration will not be using GSA provided cell phones, computers, offices or “any technology” provided by the GSA.

• Why? I can only speculate, but I have to imagine it’s most likely because they’re trying to prevent the same spying and deep-state surveillance scenario that Obama set up in 2016-2017…

A lot of bad people will not be sleeping well knowing they have no absolutely no idea what’s coming… Nessun Dorma = None shall Sleep
 

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Joe Biden Pardons His son, Hunter Biden…

And now… a certain door has opened.. Joe Biden gave immunity for all Of his Crimes, which go back 11 plus years.
That’s 2013’ish to 2024.

This means Hunter Biden just lost his 5th amendment right to refuse to testify on actions between 2013’ish-2024

As Trump says… Checkmate #
 

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"Joe Biden and the Democrats protecting the rule of law"
"Joe Biden pledged not to pardon his son"
"He has so much respect for the law that he has said he would not pardon his son"
 

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Hey, all of Trumps legal woes were politically motivated, right? I guess Hunter Biden's were too. I don't know how anyone can say one was and the other wasn't. I guess if you watch FOX News they'll tell you which is which. Trump's the one who started all the woe is me I'm being politically persecuted, so I guess you reap what you sow.
Wondering what this poster is going to sow.

Wouldn’t want any part of that rotten fruit.
 

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It should be obvious that the context here is the Millennial Temple. The absolutely gargantuan Millennial Temple that is one mile per side. The Tabernacle of David is being used synonymously for it here.

Will the "Tribulation Temple" actually be similar to David's original Tabernacle in scope? Rather limited in size?
Does this allow for the outer court being left for the gentiles? Sure maybe. In fact maybe this is a better fit than a brick and mortar Temple given the brevity of the time scale.

Doesn't matter much one way or the other though. More of a technicality than anything else. Because it still is a physical construct on a peculiar location within the confines of the Nation Israel.

[Amo 9:11 KJV]
In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

[Amo 9:12 KJV]
That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.

[Amo 9:13 KJV]
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt.

[Amo 9:14 KJV]
And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

[Amo 9:15 KJV]
And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Look, with all due respect, this is adding a LOT to scripture and then proof texting the heck out of what you've decided the text say.
This is eisegeses all the way, and what you are saying you are putting onto the text, not pulling from it, from my point of view anyway. After this idea is laid on the text, you then hunt down every combination of words you can find in the Bible that even sound like they support it, pull them out of their context and stack them all together, machine gunning them all at once like they present an air tight case. Again I'm not trying to sound or be insulting here, but that is not how we properly interpret scripture to get as close as we can to the writers intent.

Also I've found proof texting to be very unconvincing as an argument in and of itself anymore. You can make the bible say anything you want with this method. I'd suggest you try it, you can take random snips from the bible and turn it into a horror show, so just throwing a bunch of text out as "proof" of a view doesn't really carry much water, again by itself. We HAVE to dive deeper into each one and also into the whole context of the verse in relation to all those around it.

I also don't think the bible and it's prophesy is something we can take the news paper and set it beside His word and play the matching game with and it be accurate.

I just thought it might be worth sharing my opinion on how I read you comment here. This comment is much more about biblical approach to scripture and interpretation, then about the subject matter you were talking about. I was not trying to be ugly, or just dismiss everything you're saying, but thought hearing and outside perspective may help sharpen the way you come at it and even be able to strengthen your argument by seeing you should pull from the text and asking yourself where from the text do you pull everything you believe. I'm just sharing how I've been lead to approach the text so far, and it makes sense to me. You may already know all this and slap me with exactly where from the text you've pulled every bit of this along with the commentary on how the context of the verse in relation to all the others paints the picture that lines up with everything else and force me to reconsider my position, but I am, just sharing what I got from this comment. Regardless of all this have a great day man.
 

cv5

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Look, with all due respect, this is adding a LOT to scripture and then proof texting the heck out of what you've decided the text say.
This is eisegeses all the way, and what you are saying you are putting onto the text, not pulling from it, from my point of view anyway. After this idea is laid on the text, you then hunt down every combination of words you can find in the Bible that even sound like they support it, pull them out of their context and stack them all together, machine gunning them all at once like they present an air tight case. Again I'm not trying to sound or be insulting here, but that is not how we properly interpret scripture to get as close as we can to the writers intent.

Also I've found proof texting to be very unconvincing as an argument in and of itself anymore. You can make the bible say anything you want with this method. I'd suggest you try it, you can take random snips from the bible and turn it into a horror show, so just throwing a bunch of text out as "proof" of a view doesn't really carry much water, again by itself. We HAVE to dive deeper into each one and also into the whole context of the verse in relation to all those around it.

I also don't think the bible and it's prophesy is something we can take the news paper and set it beside His word and play the matching game with and it be accurate.

I just thought it might be worth sharing my opinion on how I read you comment here. This comment is much more about biblical approach to scripture and interpretation, then about the subject matter you were talking about. I was not trying to be ugly, or just dismiss everything you're saying, but thought hearing and outside perspective may help sharpen the way you come at it and even be able to strengthen your argument by seeing you should pull from the text and asking yourself where from the text do you pull everything you believe. I'm just sharing how I've been lead to approach the text so far, and it makes sense to me. You may already know all this and slap me with exactly where from the text you've pulled every bit of this along with the commentary on how the context of the verse in relation to all the others paints the picture that lines up with everything else and force me to reconsider my position, but I am, just sharing what I got from this comment. Regardless of all this have a great day man.
Well, we can rightly assume that the (undoubtedly modest) Tribulation temple will be built in 3 years or so.
So there is that to consider.

Ezr 4:24
Then ceased the work of the house of God which is at Jerusalem. So it ceased unto the second year of the reign of Darius king of Persia.

Ezr 6:15
And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king.

Ezr 3:12
But many of the priests and Levites and chief of the fathers, who were ancient men, that had seen the first house, when the foundation of this house was laid before their eyes, wept with a loud voice; and many shouted aloud for joy: