Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ResidentAlien

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Whens the trial? Im not an american so i dont follow these things. But I really wouldnt like to see him locked up. Locked up for WHAT?
Well, he's been indicted for four separate crimes, so take your pick. If you haven't been following it, there's too much to bring you up to speed on. Get online and research it if you're interested.
 

PennEd

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Whens the trial? Im not an american so i dont follow these things. But I really wouldnt like to see him locked up. Locked up for WHAT?
EVERY single charge and indictment is PURELY political. With the goal of preventing the current administration's clearest threat to it's power. To keep him off the ballot, where even their immense cheating probably won't be enough.

This is 3rd world, and 1930s fascism on full display. Surprising to see how many here and elsewhere support this pure fascism.

A VERY dangerous time here because of it.
 

ZNP

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Whens the trial? Im not an american so i dont follow these things. But I really wouldnt like to see him locked up. Locked up for WHAT?
He questioned the election and he decided to run again and he has threatened the deep state to prosecute them if elected and he held to opinions that were not approved by the deep state.
 

ZNP

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EVERY single charge and indictment is PURELY political. With the goal of preventing the current administration's clearest threat to it's power. To keep him off the ballot, where even their immense cheating probably won't be enough.

This is 3rd world, and 1930s fascism on full display. Surprising to see how many here and elsewhere support this pure fascism.

A VERY dangerous time here because of it.
There is only one way of escape at this point.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Whens the trial? Im not an american so i dont follow these things. But I really wouldnt like to see him locked up. Locked up for WHAT?

For a bunch of trumped up charges, no pun intended. They are people with a little power that have sworn they will get president Trump, right out of the gate they should be fired for that alone. The charges are some of the very same things this current president has done, only he was just VP at the time and had no authority to do so, but as president Trump did. They hate the man and they are scared to death he will win again. He knows too much. They either have to put him in prison or kill him. No other president has been attacked in this way. And if Americans allow this to happen they will be no different than Russia and any other country that puts their political opponents in prison or kills them. Not because it is Trump, if this was done to any other man I would say the same, what they are doing is treachery and they should be taken out and hung for it. In the early days of America, when people cared about the rule of the country, every one of them would be hung. They are liars, they are full of hate and malice and I pray they will be impaled on their own daggers. God will not bless a communist America and that will be the result if this is allowed to happen. As Trump says, if they can do this to me, imagine what they can do to you!! Just ask the Jan 4th people who are sitting in prison cells for no reason. smh America is falling and very few people see it. It turns my stomach and makes me weep for what will be lost if people don't wake up, soon!!
 
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Israel is responsible for all the evil in this world.

This people committed the worst sin by killing God on the cross. This people killed God. I repeat: Israel killed God.

This nation is responsible for all the evil and will soon be punished by God once and for all.

Those who are with this people will perish with this people.
I see the inevitable has occurred but I want to respond to this anyway

Every single human on the earth is guilty of the death of Jesus. Every single one of us is the reason God sent Jesus to
earth to die. He died because of our sin and He made the only way for us to become righteous before the Father

It is very sad how some people will twist what is plainly written in scripture.
 

ZNP

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This thread presumes the US as a nation will continue to 2024. The times of the nations is ending as we speak. On August 25th the censorship of the internet in Europe went into effect. Now the platforms in the US are impacted because they will be shut down in Europe if they don't abide their rules, as a result they are implementing the censorship on their platforms. Europe passes a law and the US has to abide by it. We saw this during the pandemic, it is about to come back with a vengeance where WHO and WEF are ruling everything you can do.

This isn't some diabolic plan from Satan, it is in God's word. The times of the Gentiles (nations) ends and the 70th week begins. The Lord Jesus will return as Lord of Lords and King of kings over the entire earth, not just one or two nations.

After the rapture the US will cease to exist as a world power, the restrainer will step aside (holy Spirit) and globalism will blast off. The best way to buckle up and prepare for what is coming is to take the Lord's blood and repent of your sins and give all glory to Jesus Christ, the coming king.
 

Komentaja

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For a bunch of trumped up charges, no pun intended. They are people with a little power that have sworn they will get president Trump, right out of the gate they should be fired for that alone. The charges are some of the very same things this current president has done, only he was just VP at the time and had no authority to do so, but as president Trump did. They hate the man and they are scared to death he will win again. He knows too much. They either have to put him in prison or kill him. No other president has been attacked in this way. And if Americans allow this to happen they will be no different than Russia and any other country that puts their political opponents in prison or kills them. Not because it is Trump, if this was done to any other man I would say the same, what they are doing is treachery and they should be taken out and hung for it. In the early days of America, when people cared about the rule of the country, every one of them would be hung. They are liars, they are full of hate and malice and I pray they will be impaled on their own daggers. God will not bless a communist America and that will be the result if this is allowed to happen. As Trump says, if they can do this to me, imagine what they can do to you!! Just ask the Jan 4th people who are sitting in prison cells for no reason. smh America is falling and very few people see it. It turns my stomach and makes me weep for what will be lost if people don't wake up, soon!!
As I said im not american but I can see it falling as well. Not just america but my nation as well, Europe as a whole. The entire world is falling into tyranny and godless rule.


I believe it is just meant to happen so that prophecy will be fulfilled in these last days
 

Komentaja

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He questioned the election and he decided to run again and he has threatened the deep state to prosecute them if elected and he held to opinions that were not approved by the deep state.
What do you mean by "deep state"?
 

ZNP

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What do you mean by "deep state"?
Politicians get elected for a 2 year or 6 year term, they are only temporary place holders and can be removed easily and quickly. Meanwhile people who work for the FBI, DOJ, Homeland Security, CIA, IRS, etc. can be there for a lifetimes. They develop their little fiefdoms and they can often wield much more power over their little fiefdom than the elected officials. No one elected them, they operate behind the scenes, and they may be there for 40-60 years, so we call them "the deep state". It is what we call Kaf·ka·esque.
 

Komentaja

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Politicians get elected for a 2 year or 6 year term, they are only temporary place holders and can be removed easily and quickly. Meanwhile people who work for the FBI, DOJ, Homeland Security, CIA, IRS, etc. can be there for a lifetimes. They develop their little fiefdoms and they can often wield much more power over their little fiefdom than the elected officials. No one elected them, they operate behind the scenes, and they may be there for 40-60 years, so we call them "the deep state". It is what we call Kaf·ka·esque.
Good point. I wonder how come all the leftwing nuts got into power in the FBIs and CIAs and even NATO i saw waving the rainbow flag recently.
 

ZNP

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Good point. I wonder how come all the leftwing nuts got into power in the FBIs and CIAs and even NATO i saw waving the rainbow flag recently.
No, it doesn't work that way. You probably have more conservatives and patriots go into those careers. However, the way FreeMasons work, if you can possibly help the career of another Freemason you are required to. This is why they get promoted to the top jobs and promote others. There is an incredibly high percentage of CEO's and corporate executives that are Freemasons. I saw this as a teacher, the people who get promoted are not in any way the best teachers or the most competent. At one school we had 24 teachers in the science department and the absolute worst teacher was promoted to AP of the department.

So what happens over time, and we are talking about a hundred years or more, over time you will see that all the key positions of decision makers are Freemasons even if they are a huge minority. I could go on and on about weird, unqualified and incompetent people being promoted and thoroughly defended by the higher ups.
 
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I found a more rational candidate than any of them running.
 

ZNP

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We assumed that we defeated England in 1783. But the kings and elites still were there. Today a fourth of the earth belongs to the king of England. China and Russia are tyrannical rule. Add to that the Vatican and a whole bunch of lesser dictators and kings and you can see the lion share of the money and resources of this world are in the hands of a few. These few don't just promote people to fit their needs, they can decide winners and losers. Facebook over myspace for example. Google over the other search engines. IBM, Apple, Pfizer, etc. If you control massive government budgets you decide who wins and loses. Why do you think many of these CEO's are nut jobs in their open worship of Satan? Why do you think that Starbucks had such success? Anyone can make coffee and everyone did. We know that the elites wanted Facebook so they could harvest your data and they actively recruited churches because they especially wanted to know who were the members. So what could be the benefit of offering free wifi at Starbucks? Does anyone still doubt that the music industry is completely satanic? Steve Wozniack, J. Edgar Hoover and Jesse Jackson are all Freemasons. Brad Smith -- Microsoft and Intuit CEO, freemason.
 

ZNP

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We assumed that we defeated England in 1783. But the kings and elites still were there. Today a fourth of the earth belongs to the king of England. China and Russia are tyrannical rule. Add to that the Vatican and a whole bunch of lesser dictators and kings and you can see the lion share of the money and resources of this world are in the hands of a few. These few don't just promote people to fit their needs, they can decide winners and losers. Facebook over myspace for example. Google over the other search engines. IBM, Apple, Pfizer, etc. If you control massive government budgets you decide who wins and loses. Why do you think many of these CEO's are nut jobs in their open worship of Satan? Why do you think that Starbucks had such success? Anyone can make coffee and everyone did. We know that the elites wanted Facebook so they could harvest your data and they actively recruited churches because they especially wanted to know who were the members. So what could be the benefit of offering free wifi at Starbucks? Does anyone still doubt that the music industry is completely satanic? Steve Wozniack, J. Edgar Hoover and Jesse Jackson are all Freemasons. Brad Smith -- Microsoft and Intuit CEO, freemason.
Why do you think Microsoft was plagued by viruses and you had to buy a antivirus software? They want to have access to your computer.

But you don't need everyone to be an avowed Satanist, Freemason, witch or involved in the occult. 95% can be useful idiots. Think of drug addicts, do you think the Lord led them to that? Of course not, so that makes gangs and cartels and organized crime one wing of Satan's kingdom. Why do you think the CIA was involved in importing drugs? How about pornography? Same thing, another wing of Satan's kingdom. Do you think the Holy Spirit leads someone to watch the Kardashians? What about Horror movies? What about any Hollywood movies? Even the "good" ones that are documentaries are like a soft sell for Hollywood. What about Disney? Do you think we jumped from the protestant ethic to putting pornographic books into elementary school libaries? A journey of a hundred miles begins with one step. One step at a time has led us to this day. What about the NFL, do you think it is accidental that they schedule games to conflict with attending church?

The whole world lies in the evil one, the majority of them are useful idiots. But I remember seeing many "palm readers" when I was in NYC, how do they stay in business if they don't have customers?

Climate change is not built on science, if you were to carefully look at the science you would instantly see many glaring problems. Yet if you bring this up they attack you like you have insulted Mohammed. Look at how people went insane when Roe v. Wade was overturned. They didn't outlaw abortion, they simply left it up to each state to decide and yet we saw people totally unhinged as a result. This is cult behavior.

If you are pro abortion you are clearly, at the very least, a useful idiot for Satan. But only 10% say it should be illegal. So let's assume those 10% are Christians in reality (not just nominal). But even among them how many watch Disney movies, go to NFL games, etc. We all live in the world, it is very difficult to truly not be of the world.