Corporal punishment in schools. Is it time to bring back the strap?
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As a teacher, what is the saddest thing you’ve found out about one of your students?
I’m a Biology teacher, and one day in one of my Year 9 classes (ages 14) we were dissecting a heart. This girl asked to be excused, and I allowed her to, as she looked extremely hot and flushed. I gave it a few minutes, then went and spoke to her outside. She managed to explain to me that the blood and the flesh reminded her of when her mother would mutilate her arms in front of her, and that she hasn’t been able to comfortably eat meat for a long time. I felt awful, because I was constantly giving this student detentions for missing homework and not paying attention in class. If she saw those things, she’s probably seen a lot of other things. Please look after your students.
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I dont know any teachers who leave their classes with the librarian and leave. I dont. I stay and supervise them. Classes will have one or two, maybe 3 children whose behaviour are undesirable and disrupt the class, its unusual to have a whole class that way.
I think everyone can agree that discipline should be taught at home whatever form that takes. If you are lucky enough to have kids that never needed correction then thats awesome but that is a minority. Smacking them with your hand while they are young is not a bad parenting strategy. You can then explain afterwards why you took that route and they soon learn you discipline with love as opposed to wanting to be your childs best friend.
Not every child responds to a soothing touch. A lot of children respond to an authoratative parent that is firm and sets boundaries. Physical discipline can be a part of that. I dont think normal parents confuse it with beating.
I dont understand the bit about sports being taught in a healthy manner. Most boys have energy that need a physical outlet. I dont see physical discipline as violence, its another form of correction, usually for most parents its the last resort. And at school/s its the same students in detention, disrupting the class, doing counselling. The following year the same students being discussed in the staffroom between last year and this years teachers.
If youre not allowed to discipline your kids according to your values at home then what? If the softer approach isnt working at home, why do you think it works at school? It doesnt fix every child.
I know you dont have children and this is why I say this. Being a parent is different than being an aunt or uncle. You can have the most well thought out plan A and plan B scenarios and consequences ready but even your own children are going to come along and challenge everything you thought you knew big time.
I think everyone can agree that discipline should be taught at home whatever form that takes. If you are lucky enough to have kids that never needed correction then thats awesome but that is a minority. Smacking them with your hand while they are young is not a bad parenting strategy. You can then explain afterwards why you took that route and they soon learn you discipline with love as opposed to wanting to be your childs best friend.
Not every child responds to a soothing touch. A lot of children respond to an authoratative parent that is firm and sets boundaries. Physical discipline can be a part of that. I dont think normal parents confuse it with beating.
I dont understand the bit about sports being taught in a healthy manner. Most boys have energy that need a physical outlet. I dont see physical discipline as violence, its another form of correction, usually for most parents its the last resort. And at school/s its the same students in detention, disrupting the class, doing counselling. The following year the same students being discussed in the staffroom between last year and this years teachers.
If youre not allowed to discipline your kids according to your values at home then what? If the softer approach isnt working at home, why do you think it works at school? It doesnt fix every child.
I know you dont have children and this is why I say this. Being a parent is different than being an aunt or uncle. You can have the most well thought out plan A and plan B scenarios and consequences ready but even your own children are going to come along and challenge everything you thought you knew big time.
you dont understnad about sports?
are you are parent?
you think a parents is a best friend??
you dont know teachers who leave their class alone with a librarian? are they not human and need to go to the toilet or have a break?
you dont know any schools that have up to 7 neurodiverse children in one class, maybe undiagnosed?
what planet are you living on?
did you even read what I said about Jesus?
are you are parent?
you think a parents is a best friend??
you dont know teachers who leave their class alone with a librarian? are they not human and need to go to the toilet or have a break?
you dont know any schools that have up to 7 neurodiverse children in one class, maybe undiagnosed?
what planet are you living on?
did you even read what I said about Jesus?
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Regarding neruodiverse children they need restraining sometimes rather than hitting.
They need to feel secure. If you a parent you need to do a lot of one on one work with them, and hold them a lot. In a class, they need to be in a calm learning environement because of sensory overload.
Recall how Helen Keller behaved as a child when she couldnt see or hear...she acted up majorly trying to communicate. When she found out how to communicate, all that behaviour vanished. She could then talk.
They need to feel secure. If you a parent you need to do a lot of one on one work with them, and hold them a lot. In a class, they need to be in a calm learning environement because of sensory overload.
Recall how Helen Keller behaved as a child when she couldnt see or hear...she acted up majorly trying to communicate. When she found out how to communicate, all that behaviour vanished. She could then talk.
Everyone's situation is different so I'm not going to judge anyone
Of course you don't kick your kid out of the house just for misbehaving but did you see the story about the 10-year-old kid who murdered his mom over a VR headset?
So if you have a child in your house who's violent and unstable, maybe the safest thing for everyone is to get that child out of the house
Of course you don't kick your kid out of the house just for misbehaving but did you see the story about the 10-year-old kid who murdered his mom over a VR headset?
So if you have a child in your house who's violent and unstable, maybe the safest thing for everyone is to get that child out of the house
I understand sports, I dont understand you wanting to soften sports up? Sports like boxing, rugby, wrestling etc should be left alone. You keep changing the rules may as well cancel the sport, It wont be the same.
Yes I am a parent and a teacher. I dont borrow or have anyones children on loan for a few minutes. A few minutes is hardly 6 hours with them on a daily.
There are parents who have children with behavioural problems that think they have to be the childs best friend. Ask any psychologist.
Thats an extreme case of 7 neurodiverse students in one class and if diagnosed most principals would not allow that many in one class. So no unless its a classroom specifically for that intent, then its unlikely. Its too easy to say oh there might be 7 nd in any one class. Youre only guessing at that point.
Nobody in the thread said they hate children - that is a ridiculous statement to make and at the other end of extreme.
A smack on a toddlers hand to correct the child is not the same as beating the crap out of them til they are in hospital.
And no, physical discipline is not allowed in NZ.
Yes I am a parent and a teacher. I dont borrow or have anyones children on loan for a few minutes. A few minutes is hardly 6 hours with them on a daily.
There are parents who have children with behavioural problems that think they have to be the childs best friend. Ask any psychologist.
Thats an extreme case of 7 neurodiverse students in one class and if diagnosed most principals would not allow that many in one class. So no unless its a classroom specifically for that intent, then its unlikely. Its too easy to say oh there might be 7 nd in any one class. Youre only guessing at that point.
Nobody in the thread said they hate children - that is a ridiculous statement to make and at the other end of extreme.
A smack on a toddlers hand to correct the child is not the same as beating the crap out of them til they are in hospital.
And no, physical discipline is not allowed in NZ.
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As someone who comes from a generation where corporal punishment was not frowned upon either at school or home, I think it's not right.
Maybe that responsibility could be left to parents and only in extreme situations.
As someone who had endured corporal punishment. That trauma stays with you for life. It does give you discipline, no doubt. But to bring that in schools is a big no. It could leave a lot of trauma that lasts a lifetime in the child.
Why would any parent want someone else doing that to their child even if they think corporal punishment is right? And that gives teachers the power to abuse a child they don't like at will. Often times, kids used to get beat up when they didn't deserve it. Till the very end of school, I've seen teachers hit students. This was in 2007. It's changed now. The teacher could lose the job and be criminally prosecuted.
And beyond a certain age, corporal punishment should stop. Or the receiver will become the giver.
There are effective methods to punish your child where you don't have to hit the child. It goes a long way to make them better human beings.
Maybe that responsibility could be left to parents and only in extreme situations.
As someone who had endured corporal punishment. That trauma stays with you for life. It does give you discipline, no doubt. But to bring that in schools is a big no. It could leave a lot of trauma that lasts a lifetime in the child.
Why would any parent want someone else doing that to their child even if they think corporal punishment is right? And that gives teachers the power to abuse a child they don't like at will. Often times, kids used to get beat up when they didn't deserve it. Till the very end of school, I've seen teachers hit students. This was in 2007. It's changed now. The teacher could lose the job and be criminally prosecuted.
And beyond a certain age, corporal punishment should stop. Or the receiver will become the giver.
There are effective methods to punish your child where you don't have to hit the child. It goes a long way to make them better human beings.
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