Christians, Are you Praying about this Election?

[Cameron143]

You mean Detroit? DC? Or are you referring to the dodgy AG's like in Philadelphia, NYC, Portland, etc?

Dodge City is a famous western town. Since I had previously used 6 shooter I just gave an example in keeping with the original theme. But Dodge can certainly be a metaphor for major US cities currently.

 

[ZNP]

Dodge City is a famous western town. Since I had previously used 6 shooter I just gave an example in keeping with the original theme. But Dodge can certainly be a metaphor for major US cities currently.

NYC and Washington DC have more street gunfights that they did, and LA has been famous for street gunfights ever since Boyz in the Hood, and Baltimore was made famous for this with the TV show "The Wire". Chicago has a much bigger body count if you want to be an undertaker. But if you want that feeling of wild west and lawlessness, go to the southern border with Mexico. If you are drawn to those depictions of towns run by crooks try Portland, San Francisco or even the entire state of California. But if you yearn for the smell of feces where Cows and horses would leave their plops in main street I hear San Francisco is definitely the place for you.

 

[Cameron143]

NYC and Washington DC have more street gunfights that they did, and LA has been famous for street gunfights ever since Boyz in the Hood, and Baltimore was made famous for this with the TV show "The Wire". Chicago has a much bigger body count if you want to be an undertaker. But if you want that feeling of wild west and lawlessness, go to the southern border with Mexico. If you are drawn to those depictions of towns run by crooks try Portland, San Francisco or even the entire state of California. But if you yearn for the smell of feces where Cows and horses would leave their plops in main street I hear San Francisco is definitely the place for you.

So many choices; so little time.
That's actually a rather well considered answer especially for my line of buffoonery. If you are this detailed all the time you do well.

 

[Cameron143]

NYC and Washington DC have more street gunfights that they did, and LA has been famous for street gunfights ever since Boyz in the Hood, and Baltimore was made famous for this with the TV show "The Wire". Chicago has a much bigger body count if you want to be an undertaker. But if you want that feeling of wild west and lawlessness, go to the southern border with Mexico. If you are drawn to those depictions of towns run by crooks try Portland, San Francisco or even the entire state of California. But if you yearn for the smell of feces where Cows and horses would leave their plops in main street I hear San Francisco is definitely the place for you.

What I'm hearing is plenty of opportunity and job security.

 

[Handyman62]

The building in that video?

That was an intentional demolition implosion.
Looks like the towers when they came down doesn't it?

In Jersey,across the water from the towers, people were filming on 9/11.

Just before the towers imploded you could hear explosions going off. Just like in that video. And see flashes of light in the floors windows well below where the planes struck.

Then the collapse. YouTube use to carry the footage. I can't find it now.

It does not look like the towers when they came down. There were no demolition explosions. The towers did come down in a predictable fashion given their design and how metal softens when heated sufficiently.

The towers were not constructed like most modern steel buildings. They were constructed as large rectangular tubes with their heavy concrete & steel floors hung on the inside of the tube/building. The outer walls support the whole building.

When the metal brackets that held one of the floors was heated enough the hangers could no longer support the floor they stretched and let loose. The lower floor couldn't support the weight of the upper floor falling on it and it let loose which set up a domino effect as the floors continued pancaking all the way down. As they came down it pulled the outer walls in with them.

Anyone who has done any work with steel knows that it takes a lot less heat than most think for metal to become pliable. So it's not at all unreasonable for the towers to come down exactly the way they did. Perhaps one could find fault in the quality of the metal brackets supporting the floors but no matter what the quality of the steel, given enough heat the result would have been the same.

And then of coures there's the videos of the planes impacting the buildings. Yes I know many claim they were faked. To which I have to say, what about all the eye witnesses? Were they faked too?

 

[EDENgate]

It does not look like the towers when they came down. There were no demolition explosions. The towers did come down in a predictable fashion given their design and how metal softens when heated sufficiently.

The towers were not constructed like most modern steel buildings. They were constructed as large rectangular tubes with their heavy concrete & steel floors hung on the inside of the tube/building. The outer walls support the whole building.

When the metal brackets that held one of the floors was heated enough the hangers could no longer support the floor they stretched and let loose. The lower floor couldn't support the weight of the upper floor falling on it and it let loose which set up a domino effect as the floors continued pancaking all the way down. As they came down it pulled the outer walls in with them.

Anyone who has done any work with steel knows that it takes a lot less heat than most think for metal to become pliable. So it's not at all unreasonable for the towers to come down exactly the way they did. Perhaps one could find fault in the quality of the metal brackets supporting the floors but no matter what the quality of the steel, given enough heat the result would have been the same.

And then of coures there's the videos of the planes impacting the buildings. Yes I know many claim they were faked. To which I have to say, what about all the eye witnesses? Were they faked too?

No, the planes were real. So too was the detonations on the lower floors well below them.

There were witnesses to that as well.

 

[Handyman62]

No, the planes were real. So too was the detonations on the lower floors well below them.

There were witnesses to that as well.

My discernment say's there were no credible witnesses.

 

[EDENgate]

My discernment say's there were no credible witnesses.

Claims like that aren't credible.

 

[Handyman62]

Claims like that aren't credible.

Just because you believe yours or the claims of others doesn't make them more credible than mine.

 

[Edify]

My discernment say's there were no credible witnesses.

My discernment says all credible witnesses died mysteriously before they had a chance to testify.

 

[EDENgate]

Just because you believe yours or the claims of others doesn't make them more credible than mine.

Of course the same applies to your theory.

 

[Gojira]

If you read closely you would know that I believe one comes from the other. So when I don't see one I know it's because the other isn't present.

I was getting you confused with Edengate.

 

[Cameron143]

I was getting you confused with Edengate.

Easy to do. After all, his mother and my mother were both mothers.

 

[Handyman62]

Just to be clear that there are some that believe the Government wired the Twin Towers with explosive charges then hijacked 2 jets and flew them into the buildings. And then at some point detonated those charges to bring them down.

I hadn't seen the videos of the collapses in years so I went back and re watched several of them. And in none of them can be seen any evidence of any explosions after the initial crashes and it's pretty obvious that the collapses began at the point where the planes struck the buildings.

When buildings are demoed with explosives they always begin to collapse at the bottom or very near it. The Twin Towers did not collapse that way.

And then what about the explosives? They would have to of been wired into the buildings. That's a major problem because if you crash a plane into it the chances are very high that it will in some way damage the wiring to the charges. Probably the most critical part of demoing a building is the wiring. Buildings that size would require hundreds if not thousands of charges and miles of wire and thousands more connections. And not to mention the man hours involved in planning & executing the whole operation.

It's just inconceivable that something like that could have been pulled off successfully and the obvious lack of clear evidence hammers it home.

Now do I believe the powers that be are at least partially responsible for what happened to the Twin Towers and many other terrorist attacks? Yes I do believe they are. They have a track record of ignoring warnings of things like this and sitting on their hands. Especially when it suits their purpose.

The reality is that the Towers didn't need to come down for it to be a success. A terrorist attack with planes flying into the buildings would have been enough to accomplish any nefarious plans that may have been afoot.

 

[Cameron143]

Just to be clear that there are some that believe the Government wired the Twin Towers with explosive charges then hijacked 2 jets and flew them into the buildings. And then at some point detonated those charges to bring them down.

I hadn't seen the videos of the collapses in years so I went back and re watched several of them. And in none of them can be seen any evidence of any explosions after the initial crashes and it's pretty obvious that the collapses began at the point where the planes struck the buildings.

When buildings are demoed with explosives they always begin to collapse at the bottom or very near it. The Twin Towers did not collapse that way.

And then what about the explosives? They would have to of been wired into the buildings. That's a major problem because if you crash a plane into it the chances are very high that it will in some way damage the wiring to the charges. Probably the most critical part of demoing a building is the wiring. Buildings that size would require hundreds if not thousands of charges and miles of wire and thousands more connections. And not to mention the man hours involved in planning & executing the whole operation.

It's just inconceivable that something like that could have been pulled off successfully and the obvious lack of clear evidence hammers it home.

Now do I believe the powers that be are at least partially responsible for what happened to the Twin Towers and many other terrorist attacks? Yes I do believe they are. They have a track record of ignoring warnings of things like this and sitting on their hands. Especially when it suits their purpose.

The reality is that the Towers didn't need to come down for it to be a success. A terrorist attack with planes flying into the buildings would have been enough to accomplish any nefarious plans that may have been afoot.

Could lasers explain the phenomena of the event?
And do you have any explanation for the destruction of a nearby building?

 

[Handyman62]

Could lasers explain the phenomena of the event?
And do you have any explanation for the destruction of a nearby building?

Lasers? No. Did you see the amount of steel and fiery debris coming down when the buildings collapsed? Need I say more?

I'm not going to continue arguing about it. Anybody can twist anything into a conspiracy theory. It happens all the time and the internet is loaded with nut cases doing just that and it's sad that people who confess to be Christians get sucked into some of them. Flat earthers are a perfect example.

 

[Cameron143]

Lasers? No. Did you see the amount of steel and fiery debris coming down when the buildings collapsed? Need I say more?

I'm not going to continue arguing about it. Anybody can twist anything into a conspiracy theory. It happens all the time and the internet is loaded with nut cases doing just that and it's sad that people who confess to be Christians get sucked into some of them. Flat earthers are a perfect example.

I did see the amount of debris. It was significantly less than it should have been. And why was the debris sent to China?
I'm far from being a conspiratory but reasonable questions deserve answers. And anyone who blindly accepts government explanations blindly does so at their own peril.
And no need to take offense. You posted. I inquired politely. I'm not arguing. I wouldn't have asked if I hadn't read some of your previous posts and felt you could add to my understanding.
Grace and peace.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Not even the RINO VP stood against it. And he could have stopped it all from gaining the power that evil sought. But he failed in his duty as VP, a man, and worse, a self-identified Christian. Which we now know was a lie.

I'm sorry but I disagree with you here. Pence did exactly what the law said he had a duty to do.

He upheld the law and did his constitutional duty.

If accusations of election corruption cannot be proven by the means set according to the constitution, then it must be certified as stands.

He did that despite all opposition - that's commendable, like the results or not.

The only thing republicans can do is to pass election laws and put republicans in positions of power from the ground up (removing corrupt judges etc) in order to make our elections far more secure, so this can never happen again.

but Pence? Following the law in a nation of laws is not wrong.

 

[EDENgate]

My discernment says all credible witnesses died mysteriously before they had a chance to testify.

Yes, I heard that as well. Not all perhaps but many did.

The video Fran's friends shot from the Jersey towers view is no longer on YouTube.
It's YouTube so that may not be surprising.

And building 7, not 5 as I had earlier wrongly thought, fell too. Never impacted by the planes. And most everyone that's looked into the evidence believes it too was a controlled demo,ition.

I'm sorry but I disagree with you here. Pence did exactly what the law said he had a duty to do.

He upheld the law and did his constitutional duty.

If accusations of election corruption cannot be proven by the means set according to the constitution, then it must be certified as stands.

He did that despite all opposition - that's commendable, like the results or not.

The only thing republicans can do is to pass election laws and put republicans in positions of power from the ground up (removing corrupt judges etc) in order to make our elections far more secure, so this can never happen again.

but Pence? Following the law in a nation of laws is not wrong.

But he didn't follow the law.

He had a duty to review the evidence and didn't.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

If my people will humble themselves and pray..

But what makes that work is what you left out: "And seek my face, and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS - THEN will I hear - etc.