Christians, Are you Praying about this Election?

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Gojira

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Cameron143 said:
Attacking won't help. Encouragement might.
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Why? First of all, that wasn't an attack. There might be something to consider in your second statement though. I will consider it.

Cameron143 said:
The remedy for blessings isn't more votes but more holiness.
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Why is it either/or? Holiness first, then from that, holy votes.

This is the logic that is not logical. Too many Christians think it's either / or. It is both. Obviously the spiritual is eternal, and of ultimate importance. But, unless you want your children under the boot of a dictatorship, you have an obligation to do your best to make sure that the society you leave them is a good one.
 
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I don't see God as an insecure mass murderer who slaughters people to remind them he is God because he needs their worship to feel secure.
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If that's your response to what I wrote I'm a very poor communicator. Blessings.
 
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Gojira said:
Why? First of all, that wasn't an attack. There might be something to consider in your second statement though. I will consider it.



Why is it either/or? Holiness first, then from that, holy votes.

This is the logic that is not logical. Too many Christians think it's either / or. It is both. Obviously the spiritual is eternal, and of ultimate importance. But, unless you want your children under the boot of a dictatorship, you have an obligation to do your best to make sure that the society you leave them is a good one.
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If you read closely you would know that I believe one comes from the other. So when I don't see one I know it's because the other isn't present.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
Did a plane hit it or was there a small fire that caused the pancaking of the building into it's own footprint?
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The building in that video?

That was an intentional demolition implosion.
Looks like the towers when they came down doesn't it?

In Jersey,across the water from the towers, people were filming on 9/11.

Just before the towers imploded you could hear explosions going off. Just like in that video. And see flashes of light in the floors windows well below where the planes struck.

Then the collapse. YouTube use to carry the footage. I can't find it now.
 
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EDENgate said:
The building in that video?

That was an intentional demolition implosion.
Looks like the towers when they came down doesn't it?

In Jersey,across the water from the towers, people were filming on 9/11.

Just before the towers imploded you could hear explosions going off. Just like in that video. And see flashes of light in the floors windows well below where the planes struck.

Then the collapse. YouTube use to carry the footage. I can't find it now.
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I remember that. I was just speaking facetiously as I recalled that similar image in 2001 NYNY . The official story before the towers fell was released too soon.
I posted the first documentary on that this past September. If you want to watch it and the videos available at that that time search in quotes, 9// Road to Tyranny.
 
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Cameron143 said:
If you read closely you would know that I believe one comes from the other. So when I don't see one I know it's because the other isn't present.
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But YOU are a Christian, yes? So YOU get out and vote with your Christian conscience.
 
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Gojira said:
But YOU are a Christian, yes? So YOU get out and vote with your Christian conscience.
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I believe it is the duty of every citizen to vote and to have an informed vote. I desire a return to constitutional government. God blessed this nation in its founding and many times since. And in our times of need He has provided leadership politically, economically, and, most importantly, spiritually. I see no reason He won't in our time if we will but turn again to Him.
So, yes, I vote. And I encourage everyone to learn the issues and do the same. But America's greatness was never in her people but in her God, just as it was for Israel. And 2 Chronicles 7:14 is the way forward for ours and every nation. My confidence is not in my vote but in the God of my salvation.
 
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I believe it is the duty of every citizen to vote and to have an informed vote. I desire a return to constitutional government. God blessed this nation in its founding and many times since. And in our times of need He has provided leadership politically, economically, and, most importantly, spiritually. I see no reason He won't in our time if we will but turn again to Him.
So, yes, I vote. And I encourage everyone to learn the issues and do the same. But America's greatness was never in her people but in her God, just as it was for Israel. And 2 Chronicles 7:14 is the way forward for ours and every nation. My confidence is not in my vote but in the God of my salvation.
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Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Praying without ceasing, there is a remnant of true believers and he always works through a remnant as there is never a majority here who are truly His.
 
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Praying without ceasing, there is a remnant of true believers and he always works through a remnant as there is never a majority here who are truly His.
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For now. But there will come a time when the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ.
 
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Gojira said:
Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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As Christians, I think we sometimes empty our 6 shooter and only ask questions while we're reloading. I'm guilty of this myself. But I think this modus operandi leads to division, not unity and I believe we should make every effort to build unity while not compromising truth. It's not always possible but it's seldom possible when we shoot first.
 
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Your analogies are interesting to me, do you engage in the shooting sports?
 
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I have not voted in 14 years but i will vote this year. I feel that at the state and local level it is important to keep the libs out as much as possible. I do not want Iowa to become another lib strong hold.
 
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